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I haven't had the chance to do this in a long time.... *ahem*...

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You are in no position to debate with me on whether or not we are playing with our instruments or our bodies. And I have evidence.
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You stated that we blow out of our little lungs. This is enough to prove you don't know enough on the subject to be debating it! We do not blow from our lungs, but our diaphragms. Blowing from the lungs would sound like s**t. Second, you even stated you couldn't be in Marching Band. Therefore, you never had enough knowledge of the subject to begin with!
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And finally, the sound of our tones matters not. True, we wouldn't sound good without the instruments amplifying our sounds. But that is irrelevant to the fact that we still play with our bodies and NOT the instruments!

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Atlanta Vampire & Non-Conformists Meetup Group
lol alright.
i need to read my emails more
XD
i just needed to see that name and i got it.



i usually only check my VIEN mail

have you signed up for VIEN as well?
(you should, you get some good emails and such)


Afraid I haven't signed up. Probably won't either.

Only reason I got the email about Twilight 3 was because I participated in the VEWRS and AVEWRS.


i saw it posted by one of the organizers at the trueformwithin forum...i joined the twilight meetup group right after that, and have signed up to attend the seattle event.


Trueform Within? *gags*
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You use your diaphragm to push more air out of your lungs. Like in singing. Singing without using the diaphragm sounds like crap.

I may not have been in marching band, but I was in band. Oh, wut nao? User Image

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We should probably start doing this in the Coffee Etc. thread.
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Sorry, but that is not going to cut it. You haven't had enough time playing an instrument to have enough knowledge to debate it. You dug your own grave. You're simply grabbing at straws now. I can see the sweat rolling down your face.
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Besides, you still can't get to the point here. So what if the diaphragm just helps push air from the lungs? That even shows more how it's our bodies making the music, not the instrument.
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Perhaps you possess some form of evidence to support yourself?

EDIT:: KK
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I've been playing for 11 years. User Image

I'm not saying you're not using your body, just that you're cheating by aiding with a man made object. It's not 100% natural.

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EDIT:

I'll just reply to your reply there. D:
Vampirism is likely a deprivation of iron in their bloodstream... but like everything else that idealists with excuses say are "genetic"-such as homosexuality, vampirism is a choice. Any person can get the same amount of iron from a supplement pill.

Why do people chose to do this? BEcause of the seductive lure to it. There is a natural part of every human to dwell in the darkness, to pleasures like this. Even if "Vamprosapiens"--as I call them-- say otherwise, sub-conciously they enjoy it like that. The idea of this could also be from the unwillingness to take suplements.

"psivamps" are...not possible. Like before, it's all mental. Imagine that you can "focus" to drain someone, mentally, you are saying that you are draining that person of chi. That is when your brain mixes up your commands with actuall body processes(I know this, because I've done it before ^.^--not to drain peoples chi though. -.O) And you feel revitalized. I can easily duplicate a feeling of revitilization, it's not that hard.

THis is theory, but fairly factual. Yes I have had vampiric feelings before, but I chose not to act on them. If I did, I would be like every other vampire claiming to be real. cheese_whine
Mezon
Vampirism is likely a deprivation of iron in their bloodstream... but like everything else that idealists with excuses say are "genetic"-such as homosexuality, vampirism is a choice. Any person can get the same amount of iron from a supplement pill.

Why do people chose to do this? BEcause of the seductive lure to it. There is a natural part of every human to dwell in the darkness, to pleasures like this. Even if "Vamprosapiens"--as I call them-- say otherwise, sub-conciously they enjoy it like that. The idea of this could also be from the unwillingness to take suplements.

"psivamps" are...not possible. Like before, it's all mental. Imagine that you can "focus" to drain someone, mentally, you are saying that you are draining that person of chi. That is when your brain mixes up your commands with actuall body processes(I know this, because I've done it before ^.^--not to drain peoples chi though. -.O) And you feel revitalized. I can easily duplicate a feeling of revitilization, it's not that hard.

THis is theory, but fairly factual. Yes I have had vampiric feelings before, but I chose not to act on them. If I did, I would be like every other vampire claiming to be real. cheese_whine
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iUn Momento!

Since when do these vampires have a seductive lure.... and since when do they like dwelling in darkness? Please get your facts straight, these people don't dwell in the night.... perhaps you should look over the first post.

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Mezon
Vampirism is likely a deprivation of iron in their bloodstream... but like everything else that idealists with excuses say are "genetic"-such as homosexuality, vampirism is a choice. Any person can get the same amount of iron from a supplement pill.

Why do people chose to do this? BEcause of the seductive lure to it. There is a natural part of every human to dwell in the darkness, to pleasures like this. Even if "Vamprosapiens"--as I call them-- say otherwise, sub-conciously they enjoy it like that. The idea of this could also be from the unwillingness to take suplements.

"psivamps" are...not possible. Like before, it's all mental. Imagine that you can "focus" to drain someone, mentally, you are saying that you are draining that person of chi. That is when your brain mixes up your commands with actuall body processes(I know this, because I've done it before ^.^--not to drain peoples chi though. -.O) And you feel revitalized. I can easily duplicate a feeling of revitilization, it's not that hard.

THis is theory, but fairly factual. Yes I have had vampiric feelings before, but I chose not to act on them. If I did, I would be like every other vampire claiming to be real. cheese_whine


being a vampyre is a choice to some, others (like me) really didnt have one.
and most of us are most likely getting enough iron in our bodies.
im getting too much from taking those damn iron pills.. but i have to for my baby.

for the second part- what seductive lure? im married, and have been with my man for 5 years. never needed it. i was awakened at 12, and that was way before any sexual urges even started coming into my system. explain this then?

its not all mental, and psy vampyres do exist. they have proof (dont know what the device is called) but someone posted examples of the machine decades of pages back. you can almost call it a different form of reiki, except taking aura/life force/etc etc
Mezon
Vampirism is likely a deprivation of iron in their bloodstream... but like everything else that idealists with excuses say are "genetic"-such as homosexuality, vampirism is a choice. Any person can get the same amount of iron from a supplement pill.


Homosexuality isn't a choice.
Hooseki

Well, there's nothing wrong with video games in moderation. I love video games, but don't veg out in front of one. I prefer to sit down and read. The one video game I do play most, though, is music based. It's called Eternal Sonata and is about the life of Chopin. Excellent music and it's fun to boot. :'D

Are you going to get your son into music lessons early on?

chopin=best composer ever...
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Mezon
Vampirism is likely a deprivation of iron in their bloodstream... but like everything else that idealists with excuses say are "genetic"-such as homosexuality, vampirism is a choice. Any person can get the same amount of iron from a supplement pill.


Homosexuality isn't a choice.

yes it is.
they dont have a certain thing in their blood or dna that makes them gay

EDIT- love is love. its not (again) in their blood or dna
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I don't get the big deal with Rock Band and Guitar Hero. It doesn't seem like your even simulating a real instrument. It seems like pressing buttons.... with style.

But anyway, force your kid to be in Marching Band. I don't care if you think it's wrong to force things on your child, force him into Marching Band. That is where you learn things.

You said you were going to awaken him or something at birth. How do you know that will actually do anything?
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we'll see as he gets older.
like i said before, im having it done as a just in case so that he wont have it as hard as i did in my early teens
Sorry, I am currently tired- the "darkness" I am refering to is metaphorical.

IT is the desire for a human to do evil- to kill, to steal, to be zoophiliac,etc... these are just examples and different people have different temptations.

This metaphorical darkness could also be a "wild" side to any human-to be sexy, cut themselves, vampirism.(yet again, only examples, I am not attempting to put these activities in the same group, and I am not trying to be stereotypical-different people have different temptations)

Now... my head hurts so I apologize for not elaborating more -.- I usually have more facts to back myself up, so I have to rely on my own intelligence....zzzZZ...
Mezon
Sorry, I am currently tired- the "darkness" I am refering to is metaphorical.

IT is the desire for a human to do evil- to kill, to steal, to be zoophiliac,etc... these are just examples and different people have different temptations.

This metaphorical darkness could also be a "wild" side to any human-to be sexy, cut themselves, vampirism.(yet again, only examples, I am not attempting to put these activities in the same group, and I am not trying to be stereotypical-different people have different temptations)

Now... my head hurts so I apologize for not elaborating more -.- I usually have more facts to back myself up, so I have to rely on my own intelligence....zzzZZ...


you know that really still makes no sense.

i would also like you to read my post quoted from your first one
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Mezon
Vampirism is likely a deprivation of iron in their bloodstream... but like everything else that idealists with excuses say are "genetic"-such as homosexuality, vampirism is a choice. Any person can get the same amount of iron from a supplement pill.


Homosexuality isn't a choice.

you

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