Vampirism: Moved to new thread, see 1st post.

[Syuvial]

Kaitos Wolfhaart

Syuvial

Kaitos Wolfhaart

Miizturi

[MoonxChild]

Twistedly Childish

thank you.

somebody else gets that. i'm very tired of everybody looking to science like a panaceaic god. science is like anything else- flawed, fabricated, and likely to be proven wrong in 50 years. why do people think science changes so much?

Science changes? So I take it the laws of gravity will be non-existent in 10 years from now?

It's not so much that it 'changes' ... it's that we learn new things every time. And our theories change. And conclusions change. It happens.

Science is based on what we know. Knowledge changes, we learn new things all the time. Some of this new knowledge disproves older knowledge.

This is why science is so great, it's about the now.

We cannot confirm the existance of vampires. And I know I know alot of people in this thread are "vampires" that are just like normal people but feed on energy from other people. Sounds like extravagant bullshit to me.

If you insist on making your own definition of the term "vampire" it looses all of it's meaning. A vampire used to be an undead creature that sucked the blood of the living and although immortal had a few weaknesses. Now the word means nothing simply because everyone has their own definition.

Let's make an example to prove my point. Let's say you're a caucasian but you act black. You have the personality of a stereotypical black person. You act blacker than Shaft himself. Guess what, you're still caucasian. You're not physicly a black person, you're just a white person impersonating a black person.

That's what I see all "vampires" as. Wannabe's. Cause nomatter how you choose to descibe a vampire you will never be one. Why is it so hard for you all to accept that you're human. It's not that bad you know...

okay, lets look at something real quick. its the english language.

Now, dont get me wrong, im not one of the people calling themselves vampires nor do i know any of them in real life, thats not what im posting on.

The english language has been changing for hundreds of years. and this right here is the reason why. first you have one specific thing and a word for it, lets say Vampire. now in the beginning before all the anne rice, humphry bogart, and all that, before the media and entertainment industries latched on to the term, Vampire was spelled differently and was used to identify all sorts of mythical monsters not all of which were undead.

Then this bat shows up and we find evidence of it feeding off the blood of livestock. zOMG new definition! and all of a sudden we have sotries about vampire bats springing up, and people start to combine the new stories with old.

then we have this media that wants everything to be sexy and mysterious, so over several decades vampires stop being soulless beasts whose only goal is to drink your blood, and the effective definition becomes something a little close to human.

and now we have the people here who say not that they are undead creatures risen from the grave to suck away your soul, not that they have magic powers and are the next step in human evolution, but that they share some traits NOT ALL with the modern idea of vampires.

this is how words and meanings change.

its not a delusion, or maybe it is, my position has yet to be established on the matter. the fact that they are using the term vampire to describe theselves merely means that there isnt a RESPECTABLE word that describes them more



and let me head you off before you try to reply with some idiosyncratic bullcrap about being clinical and calling themselves "hemophage" or "sanguinarian" or somehting like that, because the average person isnt going to GET that. and then theyll have to explain it. and then when they explain it, the answer they receive will invvariably be "so youre some kind of vampire?"

So we're gonna keep adding our own definitons to the word vampire without any regard for it's meaning?

They call themselves Psy-vampires. Their common traits with a more traditional vampire? They feed.
They don't feed on human blood, so the similarity actually ends with "They feed".
Well I feed too. I eat every day. Does that make me a vampire? No it does not.

This is the reason for inventing NEW words. Expanding the language.

But no, the new age "vampires" stole a word and destroyed it's definition instead of just making up a new word for it.

Oh and I wouldn't reply with "so youre some kind of vampire?". I'de reply with "So you're some kind of nutcase?".

if you read just a little bit you would see mentioning of some of them having an aversion to sunlight, the more common of them feeding on blood, honestly did you READ the opening post or did you just show up to troll?

and seriously, the ne age vampire stole the term from something they have only a passing resemblance with, which stole it from something it, itself had only a passing resemblance with.

example. the term f*****t. not a nice word, emotionally charged, offensive to some. it originally meant "a small bundle of sticks used as kindling"

does that in any way resemble a gay man? in any serious way?

and to respond to someone who explain theyre lifestyle to you in such a degrading and spiteful way suggets to me that you yourself are not much more than demeaning and hurtful as a person. and quite frankly i place more value on kindness and goodness of spirit than of intelligence or sanity.

*edit*

thats how language works. words change meaning over time, because to constantly invent new words is annoying difficult and then noone uses them. hence the reason why we use old words to describe nd name new things.

[Syuvial]

Hitori_Ookami-kun

the tranny is right on the first part about science and all that
as for the brom stoker part, thats painfully obvious. he based the whole dracula idea on valld tempes (doubt if i spelled it right), basically anyone even remotly intrested in vampire would know this...

okay, i find it offensive that you refer to me as "the tranny" im a person, just like everyone else here.

respect is a beautiful thing, give and you shall recieve. if you dont want to use female pronouns to refer to me, then use my name.

[Ippiki 0okami]

Syuvial

Hitori_Ookami-kun

the tranny is right on the first part about science and all that
as for the brom stoker part, thats painfully obvious. he based the whole dracula idea on valld tempes (doubt if i spelled it right), basically anyone even remotly intrested in vampire would know this...

okay, i find it offensive that you refer to me as "the tranny" im a person, just like everyone else here.

respect is a beautiful thing, give and you shall recieve. if you dont want to use female pronouns to refer to me, then use my name.

i prefer being a heartless, uncaring, monster ^-^
and your sig refers to you as a tranny, so...i think you see the self contradiction

[Renodin]

Hitori_Ookami-kun

Syuvial

Hitori_Ookami-kun

the tranny is right on the first part about science and all that
as for the brom stoker part, thats painfully obvious. he based the whole dracula idea on valld tempes (doubt if i spelled it right), basically anyone even remotly intrested in vampire would know this...

okay, i find it offensive that you refer to me as "the tranny" im a person, just like everyone else here.

respect is a beautiful thing, give and you shall recieve. if you dont want to use female pronouns to refer to me, then use my name.

i prefer being a heartless, uncaring, monster ^-^
and your sig refers to you as a tranny, so...i think you see the self contradiction

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Did somebody say Cross Examination?

[Syuvial]

Hitori_Ookami-kun

Syuvial

Hitori_Ookami-kun

the tranny is right on the first part about science and all that
as for the brom stoker part, thats painfully obvious. he based the whole dracula idea on valld tempes (doubt if i spelled it right), basically anyone even remotly intrested in vampire would know this...

okay, i find it offensive that you refer to me as "the tranny" im a person, just like everyone else here.

respect is a beautiful thing, give and you shall recieve. if you dont want to use female pronouns to refer to me, then use my name.

i prefer being a heartless, uncaring, monster ^-^
and your sig refers to you as a tranny, so...i think you see the self contradiction

ah but its not the only term thats only offensive when someone outside if its referring minority says it, now is it?

just cuz you wont get shot for calling someone a tranny when you arent trans doesnt make it any les disrespectful.

[Ippiki 0okami]

Syuvial

Hitori_Ookami-kun

Syuvial

Hitori_Ookami-kun

the tranny is right on the first part about science and all that
as for the brom stoker part, thats painfully obvious. he based the whole dracula idea on valld tempes (doubt if i spelled it right), basically anyone even remotly intrested in vampire would know this...

okay, i find it offensive that you refer to me as "the tranny" im a person, just like everyone else here.

respect is a beautiful thing, give and you shall recieve. if you dont want to use female pronouns to refer to me, then use my name.

i prefer being a heartless, uncaring, monster ^-^
and your sig refers to you as a tranny, so...i think you see the self contradiction

ah but its not the only term thats only offensive when someone outside if its referring minority says it, now is it?

just cuz you wont get shot for calling someone a tranny when you arent trans doesnt make it any les disrespectful.

Okay, think of what little patience I have as, oh I don't know, your virginity. You always thought it would be there until that night Junior year when you were feeling a little down about yourself and your pal Kevin, who just wanted to be friends, well he dropped by. And he brought a copy of 'About Last Night' and a four-pack of Bartel's and James and ba-dow hoo-hoo-hoo it was gone forever. Just like my patience is now.

[-0Damarus0-]

Syuvial

Hitori_Ookami-kun

Syuvial

Hitori_Ookami-kun

the tranny is right on the first part about science and all that
as for the brom stoker part, thats painfully obvious. he based the whole dracula idea on valld tempes (doubt if i spelled it right), basically anyone even remotly intrested in vampire would know this...

okay, i find it offensive that you refer to me as "the tranny" im a person, just like everyone else here.

respect is a beautiful thing, give and you shall recieve. if you dont want to use female pronouns to refer to me, then use my name.

i prefer being a heartless, uncaring, monster ^-^
and your sig refers to you as a tranny, so...i think you see the self contradiction

ah but its not the only term thats only offensive when someone outside if its referring minority says it, now is it?

just cuz you wont get shot for calling someone a tranny when you arent trans doesnt make it any les disrespectful.

*cough* ITS IN YOUR ******** SIGNATURE

He has full right to call you what YOU LABEL YOURSELF..

If i had "Big Fat Wanker" in my sig/name, i wouldnt complain when people called me that, they are saying something ive slaped on myself..


So stop ******** whining, or take it out of your sig.

[Ippiki 0okami]

Renodin

Hitori_Ookami-kun

Syuvial

Hitori_Ookami-kun

the tranny is right on the first part about science and all that
as for the brom stoker part, thats painfully obvious. he based the whole dracula idea on valld tempes (doubt if i spelled it right), basically anyone even remotly intrested in vampire would know this...

okay, i find it offensive that you refer to me as "the tranny" im a person, just like everyone else here.

respect is a beautiful thing, give and you shall recieve. if you dont want to use female pronouns to refer to me, then use my name.

i prefer being a heartless, uncaring, monster ^-^
and your sig refers to you as a tranny, so...i think you see the self contradiction

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Did somebody say Cross Examination?

this is my case wright!

[fashion zombie harlot]

Syuvial

Hitori_Ookami-kun

Syuvial

Hitori_Ookami-kun

the tranny is right on the first part about science and all that
as for the brom stoker part, thats painfully obvious. he based the whole dracula idea on valld tempes (doubt if i spelled it right), basically anyone even remotly intrested in vampire would know this...

okay, i find it offensive that you refer to me as "the tranny" im a person, just like everyone else here.

respect is a beautiful thing, give and you shall recieve. if you dont want to use female pronouns to refer to me, then use my name.

i prefer being a heartless, uncaring, monster ^-^
and your sig refers to you as a tranny, so...i think you see the self contradiction

ah but its not the only term thats only offensive when someone outside if its referring minority says it, now is it?

just cuz you wont get shot for calling someone a tranny when you arent trans doesnt make it any les disrespectful.

should we really label people like that?
I could call some of the younger people in here virgins, but I don't.
Hitori- atleast call syu by her SN.
Twisted- still, how they put themself- you guys dont call me pregnant. lol. its in my sig but you dont. this thread is about the dropping of use for labels of support, so lets drop the labels and just forget about that.

[Syuvial]

Hitori_Ookami-kun

Syuvial

Hitori_Ookami-kun

Syuvial

Hitori_Ookami-kun

the tranny is right on the first part about science and all that
as for the brom stoker part, thats painfully obvious. he based the whole dracula idea on valld tempes (doubt if i spelled it right), basically anyone even remotly intrested in vampire would know this...

okay, i find it offensive that you refer to me as "the tranny" im a person, just like everyone else here.

respect is a beautiful thing, give and you shall recieve. if you dont want to use female pronouns to refer to me, then use my name.

i prefer being a heartless, uncaring, monster ^-^
and your sig refers to you as a tranny, so...i think you see the self contradiction

ah but its not the only term thats only offensive when someone outside if its referring minority says it, now is it?

just cuz you wont get shot for calling someone a tranny when you arent trans doesnt make it any les disrespectful.

Okay, think of what little patience I have as, oh I don't know, your virginity. You always thought it would be there until that night Junior year when you were feeling a little down about yourself and your pal Kevin, who just wanted to be friends, well he dropped by. And he brought a copy of 'About Last Night' and a four-pack of Bartel's and James and ba-dow hoo-hoo-hoo it was gone forever. Just like my patience is now.

quite frankly your patience means about as much to me as being respectful means to you =)

*edit*
also "i dont have the patience for this" is a weak argument and is the equivalent of a legal ffacepalm.

[-0Damarus0-]

fashion zombie harlot

Syuvial

Hitori_Ookami-kun

Syuvial

Hitori_Ookami-kun

the tranny is right on the first part about science and all that
as for the brom stoker part, thats painfully obvious. he based the whole dracula idea on valld tempes (doubt if i spelled it right), basically anyone even remotly intrested in vampire would know this...

okay, i find it offensive that you refer to me as "the tranny" im a person, just like everyone else here.

respect is a beautiful thing, give and you shall recieve. if you dont want to use female pronouns to refer to me, then use my name.

i prefer being a heartless, uncaring, monster ^-^
and your sig refers to you as a tranny, so...i think you see the self contradiction

ah but its not the only term thats only offensive when someone outside if its referring minority says it, now is it?

just cuz you wont get shot for calling someone a tranny when you arent trans doesnt make it any les disrespectful.

should we really label people like that?
I could call some of the younger people in here virgins, but I don't.
Hitori- atleast call syu by her SN.
Twisted- still, how they put themself- you guys dont call me pregnant. lol. its in my sig but you dont. this thread is about the dropping of use of labels of support, so lets drop the labels and just forget about that.

Yes but.. you cant exactly call someone from "Pregnant".. Unless it was "The pregnant one" but .. that takes too much time..

Tranny is quicker, and its easier than looking back for her wierd SN... if she dosent like being called it, she can take it out..

Same as people who call themselves a hobo in theyre siggy then complain when people call them that, they need to shut the ******** up or do something about it..

[fashion zombie harlot]

Twisted Thinker

fashion zombie harlot

Syuvial

Hitori_Ookami-kun

Syuvial

Hitori_Ookami-kun

the tranny is right on the first part about science and all that
as for the brom stoker part, thats painfully obvious. he based the whole dracula idea on valld tempes (doubt if i spelled it right), basically anyone even remotly intrested in vampire would know this...

okay, i find it offensive that you refer to me as "the tranny" im a person, just like everyone else here.

respect is a beautiful thing, give and you shall recieve. if you dont want to use female pronouns to refer to me, then use my name.

i prefer being a heartless, uncaring, monster ^-^
and your sig refers to you as a tranny, so...i think you see the self contradiction

ah but its not the only term thats only offensive when someone outside if its referring minority says it, now is it?

just cuz you wont get shot for calling someone a tranny when you arent trans doesnt make it any les disrespectful.

should we really label people like that?
I could call some of the younger people in here virgins, but I don't.
Hitori- atleast call syu by her SN.
Twisted- still, how they put themself- you guys dont call me pregnant. lol. its in my sig but you dont. this thread is about the dropping of use of labels of support, so lets drop the labels and just forget about that.

Yes but.. you cant exactly call someone from "Pregnant".. Unless it was "The pregnant one" but .. that takes too much time..

Tranny is quicker, and its easier than looking back for her wierd SN... if she dosent like being called it, she can take it out..

Same as people who call themselves a hobo in theyre siggy then complain when people call them that, they need to shut the ******** up or do something about it..

Call her Syu then.
that much quicker then both.

[Reinforest]

Please calm down everyone.

Or, in the language currently being spoken: "BE ******** NICE DAMNIT".

Now. Please address Syuvial as she wishes, this is a civil thread and I expect you to BE civil.

We also aren't here to debate the English language. If you'd like to yell at people who butcher a language, find some kids talking in chatspeak. Words can and do mean more than one thing, get over it. We're hear to discuss vampirism. I will also remind everyone that this is a support thread, not a debate. You are free to think we're full of s**t all you want, and other people are free to think we're NOT full of s**t, but don't clog up the thread with yelling.

[Ippiki 0okami]

Twisted Thinker

fashion zombie harlot

Syuvial

Hitori_Ookami-kun

Syuvial

Hitori_Ookami-kun

the tranny is right on the first part about science and all that
as for the brom stoker part, thats painfully obvious. he based the whole dracula idea on valld tempes (doubt if i spelled it right), basically anyone even remotly intrested in vampire would know this...

okay, i find it offensive that you refer to me as "the tranny" im a person, just like everyone else here.

respect is a beautiful thing, give and you shall recieve. if you dont want to use female pronouns to refer to me, then use my name.

i prefer being a heartless, uncaring, monster ^-^
and your sig refers to you as a tranny, so...i think you see the self contradiction

ah but its not the only term thats only offensive when someone outside if its referring minority says it, now is it?

just cuz you wont get shot for calling someone a tranny when you arent trans doesnt make it any les disrespectful.

should we really label people like that?
I could call some of the younger people in here virgins, but I don't.
Hitori- atleast call syu by her SN.
Twisted- still, how they put themself- you guys dont call me pregnant. lol. its in my sig but you dont. this thread is about the dropping of use of labels of support, so lets drop the labels and just forget about that.

Yes but.. you cant exactly call someone from "Pregnant".. Unless it was "The pregnant one" but .. that takes too much time..

Tranny is quicker, and its easier than looking back for her wierd SN... if she dosent like being called it, she can take it out..

Same as people who call themselves a hobo in theyre siggy then complain when people call them that, they need to shut the ******** up or do something about it..

bingo!
we have a winner!

[Ippiki 0okami]

Syuvial

Hitori_Ookami-kun

Syuvial

Hitori_Ookami-kun

Syuvial

Hitori_Ookami-kun

the tranny is right on the first part about science and all that
as for the brom stoker part, thats painfully obvious. he based the whole dracula idea on valld tempes (doubt if i spelled it right), basically anyone even remotly intrested in vampire would know this...

okay, i find it offensive that you refer to me as "the tranny" im a person, just like everyone else here.

respect is a beautiful thing, give and you shall recieve. if you dont want to use female pronouns to refer to me, then use my name.

i prefer being a heartless, uncaring, monster ^-^
and your sig refers to you as a tranny, so...i think you see the self contradiction

ah but its not the only term thats only offensive when someone outside if its referring minority says it, now is it?

just cuz you wont get shot for calling someone a tranny when you arent trans doesnt make it any les disrespectful.

Okay, think of what little patience I have as, oh I don't know, your virginity. You always thought it would be there until that night Junior year when you were feeling a little down about yourself and your pal Kevin, who just wanted to be friends, well he dropped by. And he brought a copy of 'About Last Night' and a four-pack of Bartel's and James and ba-dow hoo-hoo-hoo it was gone forever. Just like my patience is now.

quite frankly your patience means about as much to me as being respectful means to you =)

*edit*
also "i dont have the patience for this" is a weak argument and is the equivalent of a legal ffacepalm.

Yeah sure, congratulations on your succesful atempt to annoy me more. Now stop talking.