Vampirism: Moved to new thread, see 1st post.

[nero-blackheart]

my gf actualy falls in the Sanguinarian catagory yet she refers to herself with a strange latin word meaning fangless vampire

i find it strang she drinks from close friends but will not drink from me she says shes afraid she may hurt me anyone know why

[II Xero II]

Tobias Highfield

II Xero II

Tobias Highfield

II Xero II

Tobias sounds ok for the most part.

Sure, we're born this way, but the symptoms don't usually begin manifesting until some time around puberty.

Some of us DO take blood as a sign of connection, yes, but that's not the only reason. We still need it for our health.

I personally think you were being unfair to the person who was talking about all the changes he's experiencing. It's possible that could be his awakening. You never know.

Well, i have no health problems, and still have yet to have a drop of anyone elses blood. I know what my family rules are, the same rules we've had for generations prior to me. Some other families may operate differently yes, but the 'symptoms' you speak of, are what my family would refer to as 'the thirst' or the addiction to blood... wich taking from other peoples blood on a regular basis can cause blood diseases, or if you have too much iron in your body, it could even be poisoning.

I was born with my 'features', i prefer not to call them symptoms as if im a diseased animal.

Sure the teeth get noticable more so later on, though the blue nails, and loss of pigmentation?

See a doctor... You could have a serious condition. though the condition is more common amung vampires, it doesnt mean you're 'turning into one'. Look up your family history and do some actual studies.

I never technically said that's when we "turn into one". I myself have displayed certain smaller characteristics from early on in my life. What I'm saying is awakening can do that to you, and we're smart enough not to take too much blood from other people and we take only from those who have healthy blood. My skin also has lack of pigmentation, I can see my veins quite often and sometimes I can even see right through my skin.

What's getting me here is you're making it sound like you're some kind of elitist vampire from a "family" of vampires. In which case I wouldn't believe you, considering vampirism is a gene that only becomes dominant in certain generations. To come from a "long line" of vampires is highly unlikely.

And by the way, directed at your first post. Silver bullets DO phase us, as any other bullet would. We're as susceptible to death as any normal person is.

yeah, kinda didnt edit the bullet part out, though its not like a poison, it does effect us as a normal bullet would definately.

And on the 'long line' comment, i do come from a family that does support those of us that display these 'features' and we do all follow along on rules that were put in place by our older generations.

Do Not Put Words In My Mouth.

And the lack of pigmentation, the prodominance of veins showing are symptoms to Cutaneous porphyria with the skin problems and the receeding gumlines sometimes giving the illusion of fangs.

And Healthy blood has a good, sometimes if not better amount of iron in it. Poisonous to the body if you yourself have a healthy amount.

And im not trying to sound like some 'elitist' giving myself a big flashy name or family line. though it is in my family history. I'm simply saying there is a line between Real, and Not Real. and if you are afflicted with Cutaneous porphyria generally you are not real, though if its common in your family, you may be of vamperic origin considering the fact that it is more common amungst us.

You were talking about things your family allowed, and thus making the impression that you were from some kind of family of vampires.
I don't have that disesase, thank you. I have found another possible vampire in my family, sadly he was murdered some years ago. I never really knew him.
Anyways, I've shown minor vampiric symptoms for some time in my life, and only recently have the major ones shown up.

To me, this guy seems like one of those people, who while they still may be a vampire, takes things a little too seriously and is the reason why people never take US seriously.

[Breayue]

Tobias Highfield

Well, i have no health problems, and still have yet to have a drop of anyone elses blood. I know what my family rules are, the same rules we've had for generations prior to me. Some other families may operate differently yes, but the 'symptoms' you speak of, are what my family would refer to as 'the thirst' or the addiction to blood... wich taking from other peoples blood on a regular basis can cause blood diseases, or if you have too much iron in your body, it could even be poisoning.

I was born with my 'features', i prefer not to call them symptoms as if im a diseased animal.

Sure the teeth get noticable more so later on, though the blue nails, and loss of pigmentation?

See a doctor... You could have a serious condition. though the condition is more common amung vampires, it doesnt mean you're 'turning into one'. Look up your family history and do some actual studies.

In other words, a long line. rolleyes I'm done with this person's silliness.

I'm sorry about your relative Xero, thats sad. :[

EDIT
I'm going to Tennessee today, I don't know if I'll have access to the internet, if so I'll be back in a week. :3

[II Xero II]

Your concern is appreciated Bre :]

It really would've been nice to talk to him. My mother told me he was very much into all things vampire related, and he always acted strangely, so maybe that's where I got it from..
Oh well, I suppose I'll never know now.

[Tobias Highfield]

Rules and structure, belong in any family. and when there's so much media BS about what we actually are. Its discussed as a family for our own benefit. Goes like this, we can get along and 'support eachother' like what the support thread is for, or we can keep trying to discredit eachother and drag eachother down.

The disease i named causes alot of serious problems, and if someone is suddenly getting those symptoms, a doctors visit is in order. Better safe then sorry.

You are entitled to your own beliefs of how it works. Different family, different rules. Mine may have structure in places yours does not on certain subjects.

I was born with those symptoms but have as of late recovered from them, eating your vegitables can help you with that sort of thing. though i retain the teeth. as its a simple trait passed on in the family. as any genetic structure in any race passes down similarities.

The reason we arent taken seriously is because most view us as borderline cannibals, when a good portion of us are not, and sometimes only drink another persons blood once, as the symbol of being one as i stated earlier. Some of the previous posters are basically the poster boys for vampires, and what give us a public image.

You are entitled to your own belief, but do not insult me, or my family for having rules to keep us from some of the problems that come with said blood poisioning and other troubles that follow that addiction. As some who are born into this sometimes feel the need to, sort of one of those 'i wanna feel grown up' things.

I have more confidence in you then some of the others here. Try to at least come to this understanding with me and make this a support thread again.

[Breayue]

Yea, I know what it's like to wish to have known someone. My brother died when he was an infant. It's been often lately that I wonder what he would have been like if he had lived. He would be 16 this july 13th I believe.

[Tobias Highfield]

Breayue

Tobias Highfield

Well, i have no health problems, and still have yet to have a drop of anyone elses blood. I know what my family rules are, the same rules we've had for generations prior to me. Some other families may operate differently yes, but the 'symptoms' you speak of, are what my family would refer to as 'the thirst' or the addiction to blood... wich taking from other peoples blood on a regular basis can cause blood diseases, or if you have too much iron in your body, it could even be poisoning.

I was born with my 'features', i prefer not to call them symptoms as if im a diseased animal.

Sure the teeth get noticable more so later on, though the blue nails, and loss of pigmentation?

See a doctor... You could have a serious condition. though the condition is more common amung vampires, it doesnt mean you're 'turning into one'. Look up your family history and do some actual studies.

In other words, a long line. rolleyes I'm done with this person's silliness.

I'm sorry about your relative Xero, thats sad. :[

EDIT
I'm going to Tennessee today, I don't know if I'll have access to the internet, if so I'll be back in a week. :3

You have no family traditions or anything that is passed down? sad...

[Breayue]

Tobias Highfield

You have no family traditions or anything that is passed down? sad...

lol Nope. I have nothing to do with most of my direct family, and any traditions they have I don't practice(they're either alcholics, compulisive liars, or holy rollers). But I am digging into the traditional roots of my native american anscestors and hope to reserect them to practice and pass them down to my children. :]

[Tobias Highfield]

Breayue

Tobias Highfield

You have no family traditions or anything that is passed down? sad...

lol Nope. I have nothing to do with most of my direct family, and any traditions they have I don't practice(they're either alcholics, compulisive liars, or holy rollers). But I am digging into the traditional roots of my native american anscestors and hope to reserect them to practice and pass them down to my children. :]

Thats cool, i have some inlaw relatives that are Cherokee, bout 2 generations back and we're still in contact with them, real nice people, they are part of an actual tribe somewheres to i forget where.

My direct family traditions come from the vamperic side though that does have some rules that pertain to the blood drinking and when it should be done, and what it should be reserved for, especially with all the new mutations and diseases such as the one i named earlier, wich leads to cancer in the liver, and many other fun things. Wich we are prone to get due to already present deficiencies that we can have passed down at some level. Just as other races are more prone to other diseases due to how they are built up.

[Natira Don Darius]

II Xero II

Tobias Highfield

II Xero II

Tobias sounds ok for the most part.

Sure, we're born this way, but the symptoms don't usually begin manifesting until some time around puberty.

Some of us DO take blood as a sign of connection, yes, but that's not the only reason. We still need it for our health.

I personally think you were being unfair to the person who was talking about all the changes he's experiencing. It's possible that could be his awakening. You never know.

Well, i have no health problems, and still have yet to have a drop of anyone elses blood. I know what my family rules are, the same rules we've had for generations prior to me. Some other families may operate differently yes, but the 'symptoms' you speak of, are what my family would refer to as 'the thirst' or the addiction to blood... wich taking from other peoples blood on a regular basis can cause blood diseases, or if you have too much iron in your body, it could even be poisoning.

I was born with my 'features', i prefer not to call them symptoms as if im a diseased animal.

Sure the teeth get noticable more so later on, though the blue nails, and loss of pigmentation?

See a doctor... You could have a serious condition. though the condition is more common amung vampires, it doesnt mean you're 'turning into one'. Look up your family history and do some actual studies.

I never technically said that's when we "turn into one". I myself have displayed certain smaller characteristics from early on in my life. What I'm saying is awakening can do that to you, and we're smart enough not to take too much blood from other people and we take only from those who have healthy blood. My skin also has lack of pigmentation, I can see my veins quite often and sometimes I can even see right through my skin.

What's getting me here is you're making it sound like you're some kind of elitist vampire from a "family" of vampires. In which case I wouldn't believe you, considering vampirism is a gene that only becomes dominant in certain generations. To come from a "long line" of vampires is highly unlikely.

And by the way, directed at your first post. Silver bullets DO phase us, as any other bullet would. We're as susceptible to death as any normal person is.

^.^ I love you!
Lol

[Natira Don Darius]

Tobias, I believe what everyone is trying to get at here, is the reason most, if not all, of us do not believe you because one: you are the first person to come in here {that I know of} claiming you come from a family full of vampires, and we find this silly, because none of us have experienced that. It just comes off as kind of.. suspicious in our eyes.

[Tobias Highfield]

xX Natira Incubus Xx

Tobias, I believe what everyone is trying to get at here, is the reason most, if not all, of us do not believe you because one: you are the first person to come in here {that I know of} claiming you come from a family full of vampires, and we find this silly, because none of us have experienced that. It just comes off as kind of.. suspicious in our eyes.

Never said that it was a family full of vampires.

I simply said that its in my family history. and it is common for us to display those traits.

A good portion of the disagreement with me, is self induced by the people who posted against me, putting words in my mouth and that sort of thing.

[Natira Don Darius]

Tobias Highfield

xX Natira Incubus Xx

Tobias, I believe what everyone is trying to get at here, is the reason most, if not all, of us do not believe you because one: you are the first person to come in here {that I know of} claiming you come from a family full of vampires, and we find this silly, because none of us have experienced that. It just comes off as kind of.. suspicious in our eyes.

Never said that it was a family full of vampires.

I simply said that its in my family history. and it is common for us to display those traits.

A good portion of the disagreement with me, is self induced by the people who posted against me, putting words in my mouth and that sort of thing.

Well I don't think anyone intended on doing that or offending, but realize, we're so used to trolls coming here and using bullshit stories, so we are careful and we are far more skeptical on things that do not seem.. "normal" to us. I don't think anyone meant to "attack" you, if you will, but just to question what you were talking about. This forum is here to try and figure out new things about ourselves and what-not, so please, do not take offense. 3nodding

[Tobias Highfield]

xX Natira Incubus Xx

Tobias Highfield

xX Natira Incubus Xx

Tobias, I believe what everyone is trying to get at here, is the reason most, if not all, of us do not believe you because one: you are the first person to come in here {that I know of} claiming you come from a family full of vampires, and we find this silly, because none of us have experienced that. It just comes off as kind of.. suspicious in our eyes.

Never said that it was a family full of vampires.

I simply said that its in my family history. and it is common for us to display those traits.

A good portion of the disagreement with me, is self induced by the people who posted against me, putting words in my mouth and that sort of thing.

Well I don't think anyone intended on doing that or offending, but realize, we're so used to trolls coming here and using bullshit stories, so we are careful and we are far more skeptical on things that do not seem.. "normal" to us. I don't think anyone meant to "attack" you, if you will, but just to question what you were talking about. This forum is here to try and figure out new things about ourselves and what-not, so please, do not take offense. 3nodding

Coming from 2-3 years in debate teams, i generally become offended when people say i said things that i did not, take me out of context, or attack my personal character.

Simply put, i said upfront that people are entitled to their beliefs on how they think it may work.

But. There is an actual racial aspect to it, that you must be born with if you are to be 'Real' otherwise its just a magical fantasy of 'i drank blood, look at me transform!'

Wich wether you're playing pretend or the real thing, its fine either way in my book though im tired of being portrayed by people that claim to be real who are not, trying to represent us... and doing a poor job at that. We are generally portrayed in the media as animalistic, borderline canibalistic, and without minds of our own. When infact we are generally civilized and blend in alot more then most people would notice.

Playing pretend is fine, go for it, immitating something or someone is the highest form of flattery.

But if you are playing pretend and have no family history of it, and have to buy fake teeth to become a vampire, dont tell me im fake when i was born into it. That is offensive, that is an insult...

[II Xero II]

xX Natira Incubus Xx

Tobias Highfield

xX Natira Incubus Xx

Tobias, I believe what everyone is trying to get at here, is the reason most, if not all, of us do not believe you because one: you are the first person to come in here {that I know of} claiming you come from a family full of vampires, and we find this silly, because none of us have experienced that. It just comes off as kind of.. suspicious in our eyes.

Never said that it was a family full of vampires.

I simply said that its in my family history. and it is common for us to display those traits.

A good portion of the disagreement with me, is self induced by the people who posted against me, putting words in my mouth and that sort of thing.

Well I don't think anyone intended on doing that or offending, but realize, we're so used to trolls coming here and using bullshit stories, so we are careful and we are far more skeptical on things that do not seem.. "normal" to us. I don't think anyone meant to "attack" you, if you will, but just to question what you were talking about. This forum is here to try and figure out new things about ourselves and what-not, so please, do not take offense. 3nodding

That should be it right about there.
I'm just perplexed with this kind of approach
You seem intelligent and all, but with all the trollers, liars, and people who just plain don't have a clue, it's hard to tell anymore who's serious and has done their research and knows what's going on and who's faking it.