Vampirism: Moved to new thread, see 1st post.

[RuneOfRedWings]

@ sybil- question- superheroes are humans. now, not all humans have superpowers. so if a human doesn't have superpowers is it not human?

point is every group has its legends. it doesn't apply to all of us.

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[Reidon Eldritch]

Actually, Out of respect. I would like to keep my age out of this. However, I will tell you this much. I am out of high school. So i'm not a Teenager. ^^; And I read the profile comment you left. I understnd what you mean.

Oh, sorry it took me awhile to reply. I had to run out and mow my yard >@ ... That someone didn't mow correctly last weekend and Made it harder for me to do this weekend. (not to mention how it has been raining and the grass was thick ... @.@). So now i'm burned out I think I'm going to go relax a little. I'll be on again in a couple hours.

[Vox_Draconis]

ShisboiRei

Actually, Out of respect. I would like to keep my age out of this. However, I will tell you this much. I am out of high school. So i'm not a Teenager. ^^; And I read the profile comment you left. I understnd what you mean.

Oh, sorry it took me awhile to reply. I had to run out and now my yard >@ ... That someone didn't mow correctly last weekend and Made it harder for me to do this weekend. (not to mention how it has been raining and the grass was thick ... @.@). So now i'm burned out I think I'm going to go relax a little. I'll be on again in a couple hours.

It's perfectly understandable and I respect your privacy ShisboiRei.

And no worries on the slow posts, things like that happen lol.

I'l probably be gone by the time you get back, as its already half past midnight here, but saying that I do intend to stay up and watch the solstice sunrise asuming I can stay awake. I was hoping to go and see in the solstice at stonehenge. That plan fell through when my friend went sick and I can't drive lol.

[Reidon Eldritch]

Vox_Draconis

ShisboiRei

Actually, Out of respect. I would like to keep my age out of this. However, I will tell you this much. I am out of high school. So i'm not a Teenager. ^^; And I read the profile comment you left. I understnd what you mean.

Oh, sorry it took me awhile to reply. I had to run out and now my yard >@ ... That someone didn't mow correctly last weekend and Made it harder for me to do this weekend. (not to mention how it has been raining and the grass was thick ... @.@). So now i'm burned out I think I'm going to go relax a little. I'll be on again in a couple hours.

It's perfectly understandable and I respect your privacy ShisboiRei.

And no worries on the slow posts, things like that happen lol.

I'l probably be gone by the time you get back, as its already half past midnight here, but saying that I do intend to stay up and watch the solstice sunrise asuming I can stay awake. I was hoping to go and see in the solstice at stonehenge. That plan fell through when my friend went sick and I can't drive lol.

Lol, well I'll be back later. I can't believe its so late over there. xD I still have plenty of sun >>;

Anyways I'll catch you later then. Have a wonderful evening. Goodnight.

Oh btw, you can just call me Rei. That is what my name is.

[Vox_Draconis]

ShisboiRei

Lol, well I'll be back later. I can't believe its so late over there. xD I still have plenty of sun >>;

Anyways I'll catch you later then. Have a wonderful evening. Goodnight.

Oh btw, you can just call me Rei. That is what my name is.

Well I am on the other side of the pond *laughs*

Aye, I'll see you when I see you, enjoy the rest of your day/evening.

In that case Rei it is, you can shorten mine down to Vox if you wish, everyone else does *chuckles*

[Reidon Eldritch]

Vox_Draconis

ShisboiRei

Lol, well I'll be back later. I can't believe its so late over there. xD I still have plenty of sun >>;
Anyways I'll catch you later then. Have a wonderful evening. Goodnight.
Oh btw, you can just call me Rei. That is what my name is.

Well I am on the other side of the pond *laughs*
Aye, I'll see you when I see you, enjoy the rest of your day/evening.
In that case Rei it is, you can shorten mine down to Vox if you wish, everyone else does *chuckles*

lol, well vox it is then. Its short and easy to remember. ^^ Anyways i'm back from relaxing and I feel much much better.

[Vox_Draconis]

ShisboiRei

Vox_Draconis

ShisboiRei

Lol, well I'll be back later. I can't believe its so late over there. xD I still have plenty of sun >>;
Anyways I'll catch you later then. Have a wonderful evening. Goodnight.
Oh btw, you can just call me Rei. That is what my name is.

Well I am on the other side of the pond *laughs*
Aye, I'll see you when I see you, enjoy the rest of your day/evening.
In that case Rei it is, you can shorten mine down to Vox if you wish, everyone else does *chuckles*

lol, well vox it is then. Its short and easy to remember. ^^ Anyways i'm back from relaxing and I feel much much better.

Welcome back.
I've got the unenviable task of waiting for my sister to come home so I can let her in because she forgot her keys....and its 01:30am here lol

[Reidon Eldritch]

Vox_Draconis

ShisboiRei

Vox_Draconis

ShisboiRei

Lol, well I'll be back later. I can't believe its so late over there. xD I still have plenty of sun >>;
Anyways I'll catch you later then. Have a wonderful evening. Goodnight.
Oh btw, you can just call me Rei. That is what my name is.

Well I am on the other side of the pond *laughs*
Aye, I'll see you when I see you, enjoy the rest of your day/evening.
In that case Rei it is, you can shorten mine down to Vox if you wish, everyone else does *chuckles*

lol, well vox it is then. Its short and easy to remember. ^^ Anyways i'm back from relaxing and I feel much much better.

Welcome back.
I've got the unenviable task of waiting for my sister to come home so I can let her in because she forgot her keys....and its 01:30am here lol

Lol. Its only after 7:30 Pm here. However, I haev a feeling i'll be turning in early tonight xD. well not right now, but in a couple hours.

[Sybil Unrest]

Vox_Draconis

I was actually rather quiet in the other thread....

That was a plural "you", sorry. The other thread seemed clogged by stuff that really did deserve to be in the chatterbox.

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The finches of the Galapagos are known as vampire finches (Geospiza difficilis septentrionalis), they feed off the blood of the other bird life on the island mainly the blue footed booby and the nazca.

I've heard of the finches - but I've never heard them described as "vampire finches", just as Darwin finches.

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I claim no similairity to the creature of folklore I am a human with an unexplained craving for blood. And thank you for actually being able to rebut my statement. I know that sounds odd, sorry about that.

I have no particular issue with your craving for blood - whatever floats your boat. I generally believe that so long as whatever it is you are doing/believing doesn't hurt others its fine. Though thinking about that I can actually see a flaw in my own belief, as I knew someone once who believed the government had put chips in his elbows and cameras behind his eyes...obviously I wouldn't stand back and say "hey go with that", with a belief like that. It depends how far your craving and identification with the community goes, I think, as to whether it becomes a harmful one - and that depends on identifying the belief as a delusion or part of a mental disorder. I suspect most psychiatrists would identify it as such, if it was something they came across (as in, it was causing you problems in your day to day life; it stopped you living a normal life because you were forever craving). I think, as a tentative hypothesis, I would say that "vampire" beliefs could be classified as harmful if the person was avoiding normal activity - say, would never go out into the sunlight, couldn't enter a church, restricted their diet to only raw steak, that sort of thing. Even if we were to class "vampire" beliefs as delusional, they would not be worthy of medical intervention as far as I understand it, so long as they did not harm the day to day life of the person or entice them to harm others. But in general, its fine. My issue is really with the term. For as long as people like yourself continue to use the term, you will forever be hounded by cries of "stop reading Anne Rice", and similar, and what is more you will continue to attract fetishists and teenagers roleplaying.

Sorry, rambled on a bit there.

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I'll give it a read, I can't say that I've heard of the site before. I am more familiar with this site Vampirism & Energy Work Research Study © 2006 - 2008

I actually got the link for Vampiric Studies from an "anti-sang website" thread on Sanguinarius' forums.
I'll have a look at the link.

[Vox_Draconis]

ShisboiRei

Vox_Draconis

Welcome back.
I've got the unenviable task of waiting for my sister to come home so I can let her in because she forgot her keys....and its 01:30am here lol

Lol. Its only after 7:30 Pm here. However, I haev a feeling i'll be turning in early tonight xD. well not right now, but in a couple hours.

Lol fair enough.

Sorry if I'm prying again but I have another question. (I'm going out on a limb here and assuming you are in a relationship) What does your partner think of your psi-sang condition? I know that some of my vampire friends often have dificulties when they are in a relationship with a non psi/sang/psi-sang a close friend of mine's marriage is very fragile at the moment because he's a sang and his wife thinks its all make believe and won't hear otherwise (along with other resons which do not need to be mentioned)

[Sybil Unrest]

RuneOfRedWings

@ sybil- question- superheroes are humans. now, not all humans have superpowers. so if a human doesn't have superpowers is it not human?

point is every group has its legends. it doesn't apply to all of us.

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Trouble is that that argument doesn't really apply here. It doesn't logically work. If you see it as a syllogism it should be easier:

All superheroes are humans.
All superheroes have superpowers.
Some humans have no superpowers.
Therefore humans are not human.

Do you see how it doesn't work? Your argument is more analogous to this:

Vampires are undead.
X is a Vampire.
X is alive.

Because in the myths all vampires are undead, and because the myths came prior to the modern "vampire" community, it is they which define the word. Therefore, all vampires are undead. You cannot then call yourself a "vampire" unless you, too, are undead. The only exception to this is to wait for ..maybe a hundred years or so and change the meaning of the word that way. But right now, in this present day and age, "vampire" means "undead revenant" in the same way that "ghoul" means "burial ground demon" and not "girl who likes cemeteries".

[Reidon Eldritch]

Vox_Draconis

ShisboiRei

Vox_Draconis

Welcome back.
I've got the unenviable task of waiting for my sister to come home so I can let her in because she forgot her keys....and its 01:30am here lol

Lol. Its only after 7:30 Pm here. However, I haev a feeling i'll be turning in early tonight xD. well not right now, but in a couple hours.

Lol fair enough.

Sorry if I'm prying again but I have another question. (I'm going out on a limb here and assuming you are in a relationship) What does your partner think of your psi-sang condition? I know that some of my vampire friends often have dificulties when they are in a relationship with a non psi/sang/psi-sang a close friend of mine's marriage is very fragile at the moment because he's a sang and his wife thinks its all make believe and won't hear otherwise (along with other resons which do not need to be mentioned)

My Lover and I both actually, in a safe and healthy standard, Participate in the act together. You could say he more donates tome rather then I go and find something or feed upon myself? He also willingly provides me with his energy.I guess I'm one of the few lucky ones when it comes to that area.

Its all and all, whether he believes it true or not, Wants me to be happy. And if doing those things (only when he isn't sick or tired) Makes me happy, he's more then happy to participate.

And yes we are males. ^^;

[Vox_Draconis]

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That was a plural "you", sorry. The other thread seemed clogged by stuff that really did deserve to be in the chatterbox.

Fair enough, and aye, I agree with you there some of the content of that thread did deserve to be in the CB in the end.

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I've heard of the finches - but I've never heard them described as "vampire finches", just as Darwin finches.

I believe that, that particular subspecies evolved from the original darwin finch (gawd that sounds odd) and became specialised blood feeders wheras their counterparts used to pick off the parasites from the other birds for food. Don't quote me on that because I'm not 100% sure.

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I have no particular issue with your craving for blood - whatever floats your boat. I generally believe that so long as whatever it is you are doing/believing doesn't hurt others its fine. Though thinking about that I can actually see a flaw in my own belief, as I knew someone once who believed the government had put chips in his elbows and cameras behind his eyes...obviously I wouldn't stand back and say "hey go with that", with a belief like that. It depends how far your craving and identification with the community goes, I think, as to whether it becomes a harmful one - and that depends on identifying the belief as a delusion or part of a mental disorder. I suspect most psychiatrists would identify it as such, if it was something they came across (as in, it was causing you problems in your day to day life; it stopped you living a normal life because you were forever craving). I think, as a tentative hypothesis, I would say that "vampire" beliefs could be classified as harmful if the person was avoiding normal activity - say, would never go out into the sunlight, couldn't enter a church, restricted their diet to only raw steak, that sort of thing. Even if we were to class "vampire" beliefs as delusional, they would not be worthy of medical intervention as far as I understand it, so long as they did not harm the day to day life of the person or entice them to harm others. But in general, its fine. My issue is really with the term. For as long as people like yourself continue to use the term, you will forever be hounded by cries of "stop reading Anne Rice", and similar, and what is more you will continue to attract fetishists and teenagers roleplaying.

Sorry, rambled on a bit there.

No worries, It was an insightful ramble and I've gained a better understanding of your view on the subject.

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I actually got the link for Vampiric Studies from an "anti-sang website" thread on Sanguinarius' forums.
I'll have a look at the link.

How ironic....I wonder what that forum's like these days I've not been there for years, i've got no intention of going back to it either unless its to browse the reference pages.

[Vox_Draconis]

ShisboiRei

My Lover and I both actually, in a safe and healthy standard, Participate in the act together. You could say he more donates tome rather then I go and find something or feed upon myself? He also willingly provides me with his energy.I guess I'm one of the few lucky ones when it comes to that area.

Its all and all, whether he believes it true or not, Wants me to be happy. And if doing those things (only when he isn't sick or tired) Makes me happy, he's more then happy to participate.

And yes we are males. ^^;

Aye indeed you are one of the lucky ones there. A similar to my fiance and I smile with one difference I'm sang and he's a psi-sang. So we both benefit from each other's energies. I won't go into full details on the forums lol, but what I take from him in terms of sang feeding he gains back from me by drawing from an excess of psi energies I build up in cetain situations.

To be honest it doesn't matter to me what your orientation is. Love knows no boundaries. I wish you and your partner the very best in life smile

[Reidon Eldritch]

Thanks. And it seems you are similarly lucky as well. At least you don't really have to wait like I do. Being able to share energies ^~ Even certain ones, is very beneficial.

I on the other hand have to wait for my partner to recover from the actives. However, I am careful and I do not take too much. I never want to or will put his life in danger ^^. I think safe practice is the best Practice for anything.