Welcome to Gaia! :: Vampirism: Moved to new thread, see 1st post. | Forum

Register FaceBook Login Login

 

 
GST

Welcome to Gaia's forums, where millions of members gather to discuss random stuff, make new friends,
complain about life, argue about nothing, laugh at dumb pictures, discuss serious issues and/or curse like sailors.

Lurking is creepy. Quit skulking in the shadows and join the conversation!

Register to reply

Advertisement
Tags: vampirism  moved  thread  post 
Share:  
forum:77, topic:41142659
We have been scrapped, oh dear!
No worries, we've started a new thread, which can be found HERE. Please direct all new posts there.


Vampirism & The Human Vampire
A Lifestyle Support Thread


Welcome to the Vampirism thread V.2. I will try to make this thread better articulated and on-topic than the previous. 'Vampirism' is a condition of unknown origin which mimics certain aspects of vampire mythology, hence the name. The phenomena has been documented as early as the early 90's, but has likely existed for much longer. This first post will serve as a FAQ and reference point regarding the nature of vampirism.

Who am I? I'm simply an open-minded young woman hoping to help a normally unrecognized group with this thread. I'm saying this because while I can answer general vampirism questions, some of the more advanced ones would be better directed at others.


Thread Rules:

•Follow the Gaia TOS & LD forum rules
•Do not flame
•Do not spam, bump, or advertise
•Try to stay on-topic
•This is not a debate thread


Skepticism is perfectly fine, all I ask is that you do so in a polite manner and try not to drag things out. Excessive insults, rude behavior or badgering for evidence will not be tolerated. This is not a debate thread, so if you would like to debate I would suggest creating a new thread in the appropriate forum for it.

In This Post:

•The Term Vampire
•Types of Vampires
•What Makes A Vampire
•Awakening & Turning
•Feeding & Donors
•Further Reading & Resources


The Term "Vampire"
The first thing to be aware of when reading this thread is that the definition of 'vampire' used here is different than that in popular media. People with vampirism are loosely referred to as 'vampires', but we aren't talking about being mythical night-stalking fiends. No one here is claiming that, or, at least, they shouldn't be.

The term 'vampirism' in regards to this condition has been in use for a long time and as since become the standard. This is likely because, as stated above, the condition's sufferers exhibit symptoms very similar to certain aspects of vampire lore. That cute little mammal that we call the 'vampire bat' also uses the term 'vampire' in this way. A vampire bat isn't a real undead vampire, it isn't going to turn into Dracula and bite you on the neck, but it has certain traits that make it similar to the idea of the vampire.

Some sections of the vampire community use alternative labels. The most popular alternate terms currently are 'sanguivore' and 'psychevore'. But these terms haven't caught on with the community as a whole, so in this thread we will continue to use 'vampire' or 'human vampire' for consistency. There are three (or four, depending on how you look at it) basic terms underneath the blanket term 'vampire' to help aid in defining things, which I will explain below.


Types Of Vampires
Here are the three types of vampires currently recognized in the community, as well as a fourth 'type' not directly related but relevant as a term.

Sanguinarian Vampires are humans that, due to reasons yet to be explained by science, crave and benefit from the regular consumption of human blood from outside sources, and suffer from withdrawal-like symptoms when deprived of it. Also referred to as sanguivores or sangs.

Psychic Vampires are humans that, due to reasons yet to be explained by science, crave and benefit from the regular absorption of metaphysical energies taken from others, and suffer from withdrawal-like symptoms when deprived of it. Also referred to as psychevores, psyvamps or psivamps.

Hybrid Vampires are humans that, due to reasons yet to be explained by science, crave and benefit from the consumption/absorption of both blood and energies taken from others, and suffer from withdrawal-like symptoms when deprived of them.

"Ageless" Vampires is a blanket term for vampires more closely mirroring myth, the legendary superhuman beings, vampires with real genetic differences from humans. Ageless vampires are not typically recognized as being related to vampirism, but the term is relevant as some use it in conversation as a way of distinguishing 'mythical vampires' from 'human vampires'.
The majority of the vampire community does not believe that ageless vampires exist. Please be advised that any comments posted here pertaining to inhuman vampires should be taken as the individual's opinion only.


What Makes A Vampire?
A person with vampirism is a person that, due to reasons yet to be explained by science, craves and benefits from the regular consumption/absorption of blood and/or metaphysical energies, and suffers from withdrawal-like symptoms when deprived of it.

I've underlined the important parts. A person is not a vampire simply because they like or crave blood/energy, as other conditions can cause this. The phenomenon is defined by a need to consume blood/energy in order to remain mentally and physically healthy, for reasons that can't yet be pinpointed through medical science. We hope that one day an explanation for the condition will be found, but as of yet no known physical or psychological conditions match.

Potential vampires are urged to first seek medical help and do a full evaluation of the situation before settling on vampirism as an explanation. I say again, the defining factor in deciding if something is vampirism is the absence of known diseases or conditions that cause similar effects.


Awakening & Turning
'Awakening' and 'Turning' are two terms often encountered on any vampirism page. I'll try to explain both as well as possible.

Awakening is the process in which a human vampire becomes aware of their vampirism. Once the process is started, they will typically begin to become more aware and will start to manifest cravings as well as other symptoms including moodiness, headaches, nocturnal tendencies, and more instinctual behavior. If they are a psivamp, they may find themselves suddenly aware of the energies around them. Vampirism typically begins to manifest at puberty, which is what makes it such a tricky subject. Many teenagers think they are awakening. Few really are. Awakening can be triggered by contact with a vampire who is already awake. It's unknown why this is, but this phenomena is commonly mistaken for turning.

Turning is the transforming of a regular person into a vampire. The majority of the vampire community agrees that turning is not possible. Ageless vampires, if they exist, are said to be able to turn. Never agree to meet a vampire offline to be turned, especially if you are a minor. It is not worth the risk of being kidnapped, raped, or worse.
There is a phenomenon called "sympathetic vampirism" which can be mistaken for turning. This happens when a particular person is fed from too much by a vampire, and begins manifesting the symptoms of vampirism to compensate.


Feeding & Donors
Human vampires, for the most part, feed via willing donors. Donors range from understanding friends to volunteers met through various websites and services. The community does it's best to make sure that the entire process is as safe, sane and consensual as possible. Medical information regarding blood extraction and risk factors, as well as the importance of testing for diseases beforehand, is usually posted on any vampirism website. Most (if not all) websites prohibit members from publicly looking for or volunteering to be a donor until the age of 18.

As with anything, there will always be certain individuals who choose to bypass safety and act recklessly. It should be known that such people do not reflect the community as a whole and that vampirism is NOT an excuse to commit illegal acts. Any person claiming vampirism who stalks, hurts, or otherwise feeds from an individual without consent is just a criminal.

If a vampire lacks a willing donor, or doesn't want to feed for moral reasons, they will likely seek out a 'substitute'. For sanguinarians, rare steaks and cranberry juice with salt are said to be apt at stopping the hunger for a short time. (Although, cranberry juice with salt apparently tastes horrible). For psivamps, draining electronic devices or 'ambient feeding' (feeding only on the energy people give off naturally in emotional situations) can sometimes get them by.

There is a document called 'The Donor's Bill of Rights' that gives an idea of what the job of a donor entails and the relationship between vampire and donor. That can be found here.


Further Reading & Resources
Here are some resources you can use to find out more about vampirism.

Sanguinarius.org
VCMB.org (Sanguinarius Forum)
 
     
 
Related Links:

Our Guild
Our Chat Thread

~~~~

Link To Us:


     
Woot!!!
Sorry ><"
I just think its awesome how you guys keep standing up
while others are acting retarded on this subject.
Good luck!
 
     
 
I'm sorry, but no.

Drastically redefining "vampire" does not make one a vampire.

"Psychic vampires" is slang, more than anything else. Just an amusing term. Like "leech" or whatever.

Having a blood fetish doesn't make you a vampire. It means you have a blood fetish.

Vampires are the reanimated dead. Like zombies, only hot and with class. This has been so for decades. You can't suddenly decide "omg, I feed off other people's energies! instead of this making me a total a*****e, I've decided that it makes me a vampire! And because I've decided that I'm a vampire, that automatically makes me cool, because everyone loves vampires!"

No.

I mean, jezuz. Liking blood, being pale... none of this crap makes you a vampire, and it never has done.

Look at me. I'm a witch, a Pagan and a goth. I hate summer, I dislike bright sunlight, I stay in the shade whenever possible. I burn easily, I like blood, and I like my steak rare. I prefer night to day and am often more active after the sun sets.

I am NOT a vampire. I am a human.

Ways to tell that you are not actually a vampire:


a) Are you breathing? Do you have a pulse? Then you are ALIVE and thus not a vampire.
b) Are you below 20? No vampire would ever turn you into a vampire, because you are a teenager. Vampires have class. Duh.
c) Are you still ageing? Then you are ALIVE and thus not a vampire.
d) Are you in school? (I mock you.) Then you are a teenager, and ageing. Refer to points B and C.

(PLEASE NOTE: Drastically redefining the word "vampire" DOES NOT make you a vampire. It makes you a damn wanker, and anyone who values language will beat you to death with a dictionary.)

e) Can you be beaten to death with a dictionary? If so, you are ALIVE (but not for long) and therefore not a vampire.
f) Have you just been beaten to death with a dictionary? If so, you are DEAD, but as you have not been killed by exsanguination via a vampire sucking out your vital fluids, you are not a vampire. EPIC FAILZ.

Interesting facts!

Rabies doesn't make you a vampire.
Being aenemic (and craving things like bloody steak that have lots of iron) does not make you a vampire.
Placebo or psychological effects caused by thinking you are a vampire and going through withdrawal does not make you a vampire.

I like vampires. For this reason, I really dislike it when the term is misused. Such as in this case.

Thank you and goodnight.
     
Did you even read the thread, Sanguina? I've addressed many of these points in the first post, yet you seem to be unable to see them for some reason. Odd.

As for you disliking our use of terminology, well, to each their own. Call them banana-flavored melon-heads or something if you want.
 
     
 
Hmm I'm glad to see a thread about vampire's that is actually logical, and not the uninformed BS seen from most people...

Just for the record I am not trying to flame, be rude, or troll.

I am a tad bit skeptical of the psivamp's. But i do somewhat believe in them. But I have yet to see real proof of psi vampire's. I mean how can people be sure their brain's aren't playing trick's on them. If someone really believes in something, their brain's WILL believe it.

As for timeless vampire's... like "Dracula", they're not real. If you do a bit of research(not wiki or google -_- wink , then you'll see Vampire's were the corpses and spirit's of already deceased people, who terrorized the living. The "timeless" vampire's, who I'm guessing are supposed to be be similar to the fictional character "Dracula", are fiction and superstition stacked with movie myth's. Now if there were real tangible proof that they existed, and were not based off of am fictional novel, and a few 1920's movie's, then I would, obviously, be convinced that they do exist, or that there is a possibility that they exist.

But is their any tangible proof of psivamp's?

EDIT: Is there any tangible proof of ANYONE being a vampire?
     



Why did you make another one.
Why not just keep up with one in the Chatterbox, where it belonged.

Also If I said I was a werewolf what would you say?
neutral
 
     
 
Buraii Uaiatto



Why did you make another one.
Why not just keep up with one in the Chatterbox, where it belonged.

neutral


i presume because Vampirism is a lifestyle...
     
So, you lot are trying to adopt the term 'vampire' be re-defining it? Please. Stop. Just stop. Put down the Anne Rice books, lay Twilight aside, and quit being a bunch of delusion tween fan-wanks. rolleyes

I'd go on, but I'd just end up repeating a lot of the same things Sanguina-chan already said so well. That said, please get lives and give this goofery up, for your own good.
 
     
 
psychotic intrusions
Buraii Uaiatto



Why did you make another one.
Why not just keep up with one in the Chatterbox, where it belonged.

neutral


i presume because Vampirism is a lifestyle...


I think the word you were looking for was 'delusion', not 'lifestyle'. rolleyes
     

Current Quest: Fremere's Guard.
Current Avatar Cosplay: Dominique's Dapper Daddy.
psychotic intrusions
Buraii Uaiatto



Why did you make another one.
Why not just keep up with one in the Chatterbox, where it belonged.

neutral


i presume because Vampirism is a lifestyle...


No its a Fad.
Its a bunch of teen agers who didnt take their meds and decided to read a bunch of books and say that they drink blood and are vampires.
 
     
 
Seriously some people just need to learn how to respect other peoples life styles.
     
Events experienced under strong emotion
are better recalled
than the unemotional happenings.
psychotic intrusions
But is their any tangible proof of psivamp's?

EDIT: Is there any tangible proof of ANYONE being a vampire?

If there were tangible proof (that I had access to, anyways), I would have listed such.

However, I have heard of several studies being done by the US military involving vampirism, primarily psychic vampirism. These tests supposedly had very interesting results. Unfortunately, I can't find any reliable sites with information on these studies so far. I'll keep asking around, and I'll be sure to post about it if I find it.
 
     
 
Buraii Uaiatto
psychotic intrusions
Buraii Uaiatto



Why did you make another one.
Why not just keep up with one in the Chatterbox, where it belonged.

neutral


i presume because Vampirism is a lifestyle...


No its a Fad.
Its a bunch of teen agers who didnt take their meds and decided to read a bunch of books and say that they drink blood and are vampires.


actually i do agree with you on that. most of these "vampires" are teenager's or people in their 20's.... or so it seems anyway. They are discontent with their lives, and thus seem to believe they are vampire's....
     
psychotic intrusions
Buraii Uaiatto



Why did you make another one.
Why not just keep up with one in the Chatterbox, where it belonged.

Also If I said I was a werewolf what would you say?
neutral

I would say, "do you mean therian or physical shifter?". Open minds. Aren't they wonderful?
 
     
Justice!

Quick Reply

Enter both words below, separated by a space:

Can't read the text? Click here

Submit

We will be phasing out support for your browser soon.

Please upgrade to one of these more modern browsers.