If you are against gay marriage, you are a bad Christian.

[Solarn]

Elf Lord Chiewn

Elgala_Chan

Elf Lord Chiewn

Elgala_Chan

It's hard to teach the children if the children are unable to ask questions of the thread regulars.

Questions can easily be asked.
That's part of what PMs are for, and the old ED mentorship program.
Posting a question in-thread that isn't an argument usually gets a thoughtful response as well.

Information isn't under lockdown.

Posting LOL UR RONG I DIDNT REDE TEH FURTS POST ought to be, IMO, grounds for denying someone access to the forum.

Long posts don't make a difference in it's original form this thread's OP was only about one paragraph long and still no one bothered to read it then. Also what was true back then and may still be true now is that it was those random annoying a** hit and run comments that kept this thread alive by bumping it up and adding about five to ten replies. So I still believe that type of restriction would go against the original intent of this kind of thread.

Long posts are indeed irrelevant. Some people simply don't want to engage in extended discussion, and ought not to.
Regardless of what happened before in this thread, the people who did not read the then-OP ended up polluting the thread. It's the post and run remarks that need to not occur. There's more opportunity for in-depth discussion and debate without them, and they irritate those of us who do read posts, beg repetitive answers, and generally waste our time and bandwidth.
M&R is not a speed forum. If there weren't users running around, posting garbage in the other threads, there would be no issues with thread hits or necromancy.

But also remember that at least in some cases, the annoying n00bish thread polluters stayed or came back again later and actually listened after a while. And they read up on the issue and tried to argue their side with valid arguments and in some cases were even convinced that they were wrong.

[Kiota Alastraya]

Daughter.of.a.King

Marriage was started at the beginning of time with Adam and Eve and God clearly felt that marriage was between a man and women because he created male and female not male and male or vise versa. In the teachings of Paul (Romans 1:18-32 to be exact) homosexuality is said to be a sin and that God will send his wrath upon them. Also in 1 Corinthians 6:9 Paul states that the homosexuals will "not inherit the kingdom of God." And how is this judging? I do not think that it's judging when God, who inspired man as you said before, himself said this.

Marriage has nothing to do with Adam and Eve, as they never married. Obviously God would create male and female instead of a single-sex couple, because only a male and a female can procreate.

What precisely did Paul state about homosexuals? What precise words did he use to describe homosexuality?

[Sahaaro]

In first place,somebody answer me a question:
What is marriage?

[Sahaaro]

and about that wrath of god against homosexuality,it's a lie.
1000 years ago,the homosexuality was not forbidden,in fact,almost allthe people had ther gay couple.It was war times,so the vatican saw danger,because,a lot of gays=less population=less soldiers=lost of wars.So they declare that gay couples must be punished for god,so they stop being gay and became to have children=more population=lots of soldiers=winning of war.even god says that the one who make the good to anothers,always will be accepted in heaven.Please,somebody investigate about this cool

[maybecca]

Sahaaro

Please,somebody investigate about this cool

Nope, that's your job. Prove it.

[Pax Christi Vobiscum]

Sahaaro

In first place,somebody answer me a question:
What is marriage?

The Catechism of the Catholic Church's chapter on Holy Matrimony

Catechism 1601

The matrimonial covenant, by which a man and a woman establish between themselves a partnership of the whole of life, is by its nature ordered toward the good of the spouses and the procreation and education of offspring; this covenant between baptized persons has been raised by Christ the Lord to the dignity of a sacrament.

[Sound Doxa]

@happy_avatar875

READ THE M&R RULES PLEASE!
Stop spamming valid posts like you have been doing!
Back up your assertions!
Prove that being homosexual is a choice!
Prove that Chiewn is jealous of Christians!
Stop commiting logical fallacies like ad hominems! (that's when you call someone stupid)
Read the first and second posts!
Come up with a valid argument!
Prove that it is wrong to be gay by showing how the second post is wrong!

In conclusion, put up or shut up.
If you post like this again, I will report you.

[Pax Christi Vobiscum]

SoundDoctrine

Stop commiting logical fallacies like ad hominems! (that's when you call someone stupid)

No, it isn't. She didn't say "Hey, you have no idea what you are talking about. You are stupid and a jackass." She merely said that he is in fact stupid.

That technically isn't an Ad Hominem. For ******** sake, hasn't anyone here taken a logic course?

[Elf Lord Chiewn]

Pax Christi Vobiscum

SoundDoctrine

Stop commiting logical fallacies like ad hominems! (that's when you call someone stupid)

No, it isn't. She didn't say "Hey, you have no idea what you are talking about. You are stupid and a jackass." She merely said that he is in fact stupid.

That technically isn't an Ad Hominem. For ******** sake, hasn't anyone here taken a logic course?

I have!

Actually, it appears to be a false statement, given the context.
Not that I lend much gravity to her words, also given the context.

[Sound Doxa]

Pax Christi Vobiscum

SoundDoctrine

Stop commiting logical fallacies like ad hominems! (that's when you call someone stupid)

No, it isn't. She didn't say "Hey, you have no idea what you are talking about. You are stupid and a jackass." She merely said that he is in fact stupid.

That technically isn't an Ad Hominem. For ******** sake, hasn't anyone here taken a logic course?

I'll admit that my defintion was totally wrong, but she did comit an ad hominem.
Really, it would've been easier to understand her message if she had used punctuation, but I understood her argument to be like this:

happy_avatar875

You are a stupid person, board creator.
You are a terrible person for saying that I am a Christian. Yes, I don't like gays. They have rights as humans, but no rights, just because they are gay. You aren't born that way. That is a lie. You choose to be gay.
Don't you go around putting down the Christians just because you are jealous.
You aren't one.
Understand?!

I called ad hominem because she attacked "board creator" instead of attacking "board creator's" arguments. I had always been under the impression that an ad hominem was when you attacked the person instead of their arguments, which she did.
It also almost seemed like she tried to poison the well by saying that since Chiewn wasn't Christian and that he's jealous, so it seemed to me like she was using this information to discredit what Chiewn was saying. She attacked Chiewn, and not the argument, and she seems to have tried to discredit Chiewn by presenting something that could be taken as unfavorable against him.

[Pax Christi Vobiscum]

Elf Lord Chiewn

Actually, it appears to be a false statement, given the context.

Nonetheless, it isn't an Ad hominem. She didn't say that your argument was wrong because you are a jackass. She merely said that you are a jackass. Off topic, spammish, even? Possibly.

Fallacious? ******** no.

Quote:

Not that I lend much gravity to her words, also given the context.

Now THAT's an Ad hominem abusive.

"This person is an idiot, so what she said is obviously wrong."

[Elf Lord Chiewn]

happy_avatar875

YOU ARE A STUPID PERSON BOARD CREATOR

You are a fine intellectual specimen. Mature, classy, and insightful.

happy_avatar875

U ARE A TERRIBLE PERSON FOR SAYING THAT

You're so right. How dare I make a statement based on exegesis!

happy_avatar875

I AM A CHRISTIIAN AND YES I DONT LIKE GAYS

Congratulations. You're a bigot!

happy_avatar875

THEY HAVE RIGHTS AS HUMANS

No argument there.

happy_avatar875

BUT NO RIGHTS JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE GAY

What "extra rights" do you think people are looking for, exactly?

happy_avatar875

U ARENT BORN THAT WAY THAT IS A LIE

I must have missed something. Find me proof.

happy_avatar875

U CHOOSE TO BE GAY

Really?
Do prove it.

happy_avatar875

AND DONT U GO AROUND PUTTING DOWN THE CHRISTIANS

I'm not putting down "the Christians."
I'm just making a statement about the hypocritical ones like you.

happy_avatar875

JUST BECAUSE U ARE JELOUS

Me? Jealous?
Yeah, right.

happy_avatar875

U ARENT ONE UNDERSTAND scream

What in the hobgoblin ******** was that supposed to mean?