If you are against gay marriage, you are a bad Christian.

[Daughter.of.a.King]

Marriage was started at the beginning of time with Adam and Eve and God clearly felt that marriage was between a man and women because he created male and female not male and male or vise versa. In the teachings of Paul (Romans 1:18-32 to be exact) homosexuality is said to be a sin and that God will send his wrath upon them. Also in 1 Corinthians 6:9 Paul states that the homosexuals will "not inherit the kingdom of God." And how is this judging? I do not think that it's judging when God, who inspired man as you said before, himself said this.

[Half Baked SF]

Daughter.of.a.King

Marriage was started at the beginning of time with Adam and Eve and God clearly felt that marriage was between a man and women because he created male and female not male and male or vise versa. In the teachings of Paul (Romans 1:18-32 to be exact) homosexuality is said to be a sin and that God will send his wrath upon them. Also in 1 Corinthians 6:9 Paul states that the homosexuals will "not inherit the kingdom of God." And how is this judging? I do not think that it's judging when God, who inspired man as you said before, himself said this.

Has the first page been deleted or something? Because nobody seems to be able to find it.

[Elgala_Chan]

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Capt. Anne Bonny

excuse me, hate to burst your bubble, elf lord...but you're judging the christian people as a whole aren't you? you're discriminating against a group of people because of the way that they are and an idea they have that they believe is true. this is essentially the same as what you think christians are doing to gays. supposedly, if we disagree with them, we are judging them. the reason we "judge" them is because of the way they are and the idea they have, according to you. so you're contradicting yourself on that point.

Boys and girls, this is why angsty middle schoolers should not be allowed access to Gaia, or at least not Extended Discussion or its subforums.

Haven't you thought the idea for creating this kind of thread may have been to reach those who still young and open minded?

[Elgala_Chan]

Daughter.of.a.King

Marriage was started at the beginning of time with Adam and Eve and God clearly felt that marriage was between a man and women because he created male and female not male and male or vise versa. In the teachings of Paul (Romans 1:18-32 to be exact) homosexuality is said to be a sin and that God will send his wrath upon them. Also in 1 Corinthians 6:9 Paul states that the homosexuals will "not inherit the kingdom of God." And how is this judging? I do not think that it's judging when God, who inspired man as you said before, himself said this.

With the differences between Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 it's pretty clear that the creation stories were meant to be taken as Hebrew mythology and there was a talking snake which is also a pretty big indicator. Now as for Romans 1, 1 Corinthians 6 and 1 Timothy 1 there are a lot of translational issues that cast doubt upon the clarity of this condemnation. Aside from all that how is not an act of judgment to pick a single type of sin and discriminate against those who commit it? According to a recent survey at least nine out of ten americans are guilty of sexual immorality through premarital sex. So how can these same americans turn around and condemn their brothers and sisters in such a way?
All the translational issues are explained in the second post of page 1.

[Marshal67]

Daughter.of.a.King

Marriage was started at the beginning of time with Adam and Eve and God clearly felt that marriage was between a man and women because he created male and female not male and male or vise versa.

Oh nos! Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve eek ... stare Do you have something inteligent for us now?

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In the teachings of Paul (Romans 1:18-32 to be exact) homosexuality is said to be a sin and that God will send his wrath upon them. Also in 1 Corinthians 6:9 Paul states that the homosexuals will "not inherit the kingdom of God."

Are you daft? Can you read? If so, read this. Or read the OP, just please...read something.

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And how is this judging?

Because you are judging and you do not have YHVH on your side.

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I do not think that it's judging when God, who inspired man as you said before, himself said this.

Blasphemer. You call us sinful, and yet this statemet destroys the words of the God we worship.

[Half Baked SF]

Elgala_Chan

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Capt. Anne Bonny

excuse me, hate to burst your bubble, elf lord...but you're judging the christian people as a whole aren't you? you're discriminating against a group of people because of the way that they are and an idea they have that they believe is true. this is essentially the same as what you think christians are doing to gays. supposedly, if we disagree with them, we are judging them. the reason we "judge" them is because of the way they are and the idea they have, according to you. so you're contradicting yourself on that point.

Boys and girls, this is why angsty middle schoolers should not be allowed access to Gaia, or at least not Extended Discussion or its subforums.

Haven't you thought the idea for creating this kind of thread may have been to reach those who still young and open minded?

You can't reach anyone who doesn't bother to read. If they can't read in the first place chances are tehy're not going to listen to you when you respond. Plus I'm tired of typing out the same things over and over to people who don't bother to pay attention.

Why are you bitching at me?

[Elgala_Chan]

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Elgala_Chan

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Capt. Anne Bonny

excuse me, hate to burst your bubble, elf lord...but you're judging the christian people as a whole aren't you? you're discriminating against a group of people because of the way that they are and an idea they have that they believe is true. this is essentially the same as what you think christians are doing to gays. supposedly, if we disagree with them, we are judging them. the reason we "judge" them is because of the way they are and the idea they have, according to you. so you're contradicting yourself on that point.

Boys and girls, this is why angsty middle schoolers should not be allowed access to Gaia, or at least not Extended Discussion or its subforums.

Haven't you thought the idea for creating this kind of thread may have been to reach those who still young and open minded?

You can't reach anyone who doesn't bother to read. If they can't read in the first place chances are tehy're not going to listen to you when you respond. Plus I'm tired of typing out the same things over and over to people who don't bother to pay attention.

Why are you bitching at me?

I'm not bitching, I'm just trying to get the point that if the younger members of Gaia didn't have access to the M&R it may defeat the purpose of this type of thread.

[Half Baked SF]

Elgala_Chan

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Elgala_Chan

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Capt. Anne Bonny

excuse me, hate to burst your bubble, elf lord...but you're judging the christian people as a whole aren't you? you're discriminating against a group of people because of the way that they are and an idea they have that they believe is true. this is essentially the same as what you think christians are doing to gays. supposedly, if we disagree with them, we are judging them. the reason we "judge" them is because of the way they are and the idea they have, according to you. so you're contradicting yourself on that point.

Boys and girls, this is why angsty middle schoolers should not be allowed access to Gaia, or at least not Extended Discussion or its subforums.

Haven't you thought the idea for creating this kind of thread may have been to reach those who still young and open minded?

You can't reach anyone who doesn't bother to read. If they can't read in the first place chances are tehy're not going to listen to you when you respond. Plus I'm tired of typing out the same things over and over to people who don't bother to pay attention.

Why are you bitching at me?

I'm not bitching, I'm just trying to get the point that if the younger members of Gaia didn't have access to the M&R it may defeat the purpose of this type of thread.

Okay, I just don't see how that has to do with the people who have access to the M&R and are posting in the threads.

[Elgala_Chan]

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Elgala_Chan

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Elgala_Chan

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Capt. Anne Bonny

excuse me, hate to burst your bubble, elf lord...but you're judging the christian people as a whole aren't you? you're discriminating against a group of people because of the way that they are and an idea they have that they believe is true. this is essentially the same as what you think christians are doing to gays. supposedly, if we disagree with them, we are judging them. the reason we "judge" them is because of the way they are and the idea they have, according to you. so you're contradicting yourself on that point.

Boys and girls, this is why angsty middle schoolers should not be allowed access to Gaia, or at least not Extended Discussion or its subforums.

Haven't you thought the idea for creating this kind of thread may have been to reach those who still young and open minded?

You can't reach anyone who doesn't bother to read. If they can't read in the first place chances are tehy're not going to listen to you when you respond. Plus I'm tired of typing out the same things over and over to people who don't bother to pay attention.

Why are you bitching at me?

I'm not bitching, I'm just trying to get the point that if the younger members of Gaia didn't have access to the M&R it may defeat the purpose of this type of thread.

Okay, I just don't see how that has to do with the people who have access to the M&R and are posting in the threads.

It's hard to teach the children if the children are unable to ask questions of the thread regulars.

[Elf Lord Chiewn]

Elgala_Chan

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Elgala_Chan

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Capt. Anne Bonny

excuse me, hate to burst your bubble, elf lord...but you're judging the christian people as a whole aren't you? you're discriminating against a group of people because of the way that they are and an idea they have that they believe is true. this is essentially the same as what you think christians are doing to gays. supposedly, if we disagree with them, we are judging them. the reason we "judge" them is because of the way they are and the idea they have, according to you. so you're contradicting yourself on that point.

Boys and girls, this is why angsty middle schoolers should not be allowed access to Gaia, or at least not Extended Discussion or its subforums.

Haven't you thought the idea for creating this kind of thread may have been to reach those who still young and open minded?

You can't reach anyone who doesn't bother to read. If they can't read in the first place chances are tehy're not going to listen to you when you respond. Plus I'm tired of typing out the same things over and over to people who don't bother to pay attention.

Why are you bitching at me?

I'm not bitching, I'm just trying to get the point that if the younger members of Gaia didn't have access to the M&R it may defeat the purpose of this type of thread.

Younger members? Fine.
We've got several younger members who contribute.
Angsty kids who can't be bothered to read an OP or the forum rules however, need not apply. She's referring specifically to people who break the rules continually and ******** it up for the rest of us.
I don't think anyone's arguing that a limit based purely on age is in order.

[Elf Lord Chiewn]

Elgala_Chan

It's hard to teach the children if the children are unable to ask questions of the thread regulars.

Questions can easily be asked.
That's part of what PMs are for, and the old ED mentorship program.
Posting a question in-thread that isn't an argument usually gets a thoughtful response as well.

Information isn't under lockdown.

Posting LOL UR RONG I DIDNT REDE TEH FURTS POST ought to be, IMO, grounds for denying someone access to the forum.

[Half Baked SF]

Elgala_Chan

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Elgala_Chan

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Elgala_Chan

Haven't you thought the idea for creating this kind of thread may have been to reach those who still young and open minded?

You can't reach anyone who doesn't bother to read. If they can't read in the first place chances are tehy're not going to listen to you when you respond. Plus I'm tired of typing out the same things over and over to people who don't bother to pay attention.

Why are you bitching at me?

I'm not bitching, I'm just trying to get the point that if the younger members of Gaia didn't have access to the M&R it may defeat the purpose of this type of thread.

Okay, I just don't see how that has to do with the people who have access to the M&R and are posting in the threads.

It's hard to teach the children if the children are unable to ask questions of the thread regulars.

Which doesn't really apply here because a.) She never asked a question, and b.) Everything she stated was addressed by the first two posts in this thread.

[Elgala_Chan]

Elf Lord Chiewn

Elgala_Chan

It's hard to teach the children if the children are unable to ask questions of the thread regulars.

Questions can easily be asked.
That's part of what PMs are for, and the old ED mentorship program.
Posting a question in-thread that isn't an argument usually gets a thoughtful response as well.

Information isn't under lockdown.

Posting LOL UR RONG I DIDNT REDE TEH FURTS POST ought to be, IMO, grounds for denying someone access to the forum.

Long posts don't make a difference in it's original form this thread's OP was only about one paragraph long and still no one bothered to read it then. Also what was true back then and may still be true now is that it was those random annoying a** hit and run comments that kept this thread alive by bumping it up and adding about five to ten replies. So I still believe that type of restriction would go against the original intent of this kind of thread.

[Elf Lord Chiewn]

Elgala_Chan

Elf Lord Chiewn

Elgala_Chan

It's hard to teach the children if the children are unable to ask questions of the thread regulars.

Questions can easily be asked.
That's part of what PMs are for, and the old ED mentorship program.
Posting a question in-thread that isn't an argument usually gets a thoughtful response as well.

Information isn't under lockdown.

Posting LOL UR RONG I DIDNT REDE TEH FURTS POST ought to be, IMO, grounds for denying someone access to the forum.

Long posts don't make a difference in it's original form this thread's OP was only about one paragraph long and still no one bothered to read it then. Also what was true back then and may still be true now is that it was those random annoying a** hit and run comments that kept this thread alive by bumping it up and adding about five to ten replies. So I still believe that type of restriction would go against the original intent of this kind of thread.

Long posts are indeed irrelevant. Some people simply don't want to engage in extended discussion, and ought not to.
Regardless of what happened before in this thread, the people who did not read the then-OP ended up polluting the thread. It's the post and run remarks that need to not occur. There's more opportunity for in-depth discussion and debate without them, and they irritate those of us who do read posts, beg repetitive answers, and generally waste our time and bandwidth.
M&R is not a speed forum. If there weren't users running around, posting garbage in the other threads, there would be no issues with thread hits or necromancy.

[Elgala_Chan]

Elf Lord Chiewn

Elgala_Chan

Long posts don't make a difference in it's original form this thread's OP was only about one paragraph long and still no one bothered to read it then. Also what was true back then and may still be true now is that it was those random annoying a** hit and run comments that kept this thread alive by bumping it up and adding about five to ten replies. So I still believe that type of restriction would go against the original intent of this kind of thread.

Long posts are indeed irrelevant. Some people simply don't want to engage in extended discussion, and ought not to.
Regardless of what happened before in this thread, the people who did not read the then-OP ended up polluting the thread. It's the post and run remarks that need to not occur. There's more opportunity for in-depth discussion and debate without them, and they irritate those of us who do read posts, beg repetitive answers, and generally waste our time and bandwidth.
M&R is not a speed forum. If there weren't users running around, posting garbage in the other threads, there would be no issues with thread hits or necromancy.

Okay, I see. Well if you ever manage to build your utopia of an ED then I suppose your plan could work.