If you are against gay marriage, you are a bad Christian.

[PoeticVengeance]

Dei Servus

PoeticVengeance

And you say I have a piss poor understanding of Catholic doctrine? I am very disappointed in you.

Only repentent sinners go to purgatory, jackass. Purgatory is the purification from the punishment owed from personal sins.

Woohoo, ad homs make you smart sounding!

Purgatory is a horrid corruption of Sheol and another issue I have with the Catholic Church.

But no, Limbo isn't Canon, and is therefore invalid by your own admissions on what is valid to the Catholic Church.

So either the babies are sent to Purgatory or heaven (its unlikely they'd be sent to hell.)

And my accusations levied on you are still valid. You're throwing around a hypothetical, non-Canon concept as truth.

You fail at Catholic Doctrine. Just as much as me.

Jackass.

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Babies only have original sin.

No s**t. Limbo isn't real as it isn't in Canon. Where do they go?

[PoeticVengeance]

Eshmasesh

Dei Servus

ty_ping

But if we're equil in the eyes of God then how come women on an earthly scale have to be inferior?

Because St. Paul says so, Tradition says so, and the Church says so.

Have you heard of a fallacy called Appeal to Tradition?
I don't know anything about the other claims, so I won't say anything.

Oh I'm sure he has. Considering the Catholic Church's authority and power as well as a good 90% of its Canon and Catechism are built on Fallacious appeal to authority and appeal to tradition.

I doubt he'd see it that way though.

[lalobabaloo]

To call anyone a "bad Christian" is a sin in itself. Who are you to judge me, a fellow sinner? Only God can judge in the end, and he isn't deciding if I were a "good" or "bad" Christian. Besides, I've found 4 passages reffering to being against homosexuality, and I will interpret them as I wish.

[jaden kendam]

lalobabaloo

To call anyone a "bad Christian" is a sin in itself. Who are you to judge me, a fellow sinner? Only God can judge in the end, and he isn't deciding if I were a "good" or "bad" Christian. Besides, I've found 4 passages reffering to being against homosexuality, and I will interpret them as I wish.

Pray tell, are any of those from the OT?

[lalobabaloo]

deadmanjake

lalobabaloo

To call anyone a "bad Christian" is a sin in itself. Who are you to judge me, a fellow sinner? Only God can judge in the end, and he isn't deciding if I were a "good" or "bad" Christian. Besides, I've found 4 passages reffering to being against homosexuality, and I will interpret them as I wish.

Pray tell, are any of those from the OT?

Yes, 2 of them are. The other two are in the NT.

[Half Baked SF]

lalobabaloo

deadmanjake

lalobabaloo

To call anyone a "bad Christian" is a sin in itself. Who are you to judge me, a fellow sinner? Only God can judge in the end, and he isn't deciding if I were a "good" or "bad" Christian. Besides, I've found 4 passages reffering to being against homosexuality, and I will interpret them as I wish.

Pray tell, are any of those from the OT?

Yes, 2 of them are. The other two are in the NT.

How many of these were not mentioned on the first page or in here?

[jaden kendam]

lalobabaloo

deadmanjake

lalobabaloo

To call anyone a "bad Christian" is a sin in itself. Who are you to judge me, a fellow sinner? Only God can judge in the end, and he isn't deciding if I were a "good" or "bad" Christian. Besides, I've found 4 passages reffering to being against homosexuality, and I will interpret them as I wish.

Pray tell, are any of those from the OT?

Yes, 2 of them are. The other two are in the NT.

Collosians 2:14. Read it learn it. Also Acts is a very good reason.

As for the ones in the NT, what are they, so that we may all see them.

[Sound Doxa]

lalobabaloo

To call anyone a "bad Christian" is a sin in itself. Who are you to judge me, a fellow sinner? Only God can judge in the end, and he isn't deciding if I were a "good" or "bad" Christian. Besides, I've found 4 passages reffering to being against homosexuality, and I will interpret them as I wish.

By "interpret them as I wish" I'm hoping you mean that you'll interpret them in context while keeping the meanings of the original language in mind so that you will be sure that you are understanding what the Bible really has to say.
I say this because when people interpret the Bible without keeping the context and original language in mind, they end up twisting the Scriptures and getting the meanings and everything out of whack.
If you study and translate very carefully, you'll come to the conclusion that homosexuality isn't a sin, not even the act of gay sex.
You don't have to take Ananel's translation, but if you study carefully, I'm positive that you'll end with the same result.
If you don't, please don't hesitate to share with us your careful studies. ~_^

[Ad.min can suck my balls]

PoeticVengeance

Have you heard of a fallacy called Appeal to Tradition

Appeals to Tradition only apply when circumstances change, or the foundation of the Tradition was false. If the premise of the Tradition still holds true, it isn't fallacious.

Likewise, Appeals to authority aren't fallacious unless the authority is unqualified.

That said, appeal to Tradition is more appeal to Authority than anything.

[lalobabaloo]

Scare Tactic Propaganda

lalobabaloo

deadmanjake

lalobabaloo

To call anyone a "bad Christian" is a sin in itself. Who are you to judge me, a fellow sinner? Only God can judge in the end, and he isn't deciding if I were a "good" or "bad" Christian. Besides, I've found 4 passages reffering to being against homosexuality, and I will interpret them as I wish.

Pray tell, are any of those from the OT?

Yes, 2 of them are. The other two are in the NT.

How many of these were not mentioned on the first page or in here?

I'm not sure; I don't have them right here with me. Either way, I will interpret the verses I found the way I choose. My point is that no man on this earth can go around judging if I am a "good" or "bad" Christian.

[jaden kendam]

lalobabaloo

Scare Tactic Propaganda

lalobabaloo

deadmanjake

lalobabaloo

To call anyone a "bad Christian" is a sin in itself. Who are you to judge me, a fellow sinner? Only God can judge in the end, and he isn't deciding if I were a "good" or "bad" Christian. Besides, I've found 4 passages reffering to being against homosexuality, and I will interpret them as I wish.

Pray tell, are any of those from the OT?

Yes, 2 of them are. The other two are in the NT.

How many of these were not mentioned on the first page or in here?

I'm not sure; I don't have them right here with me. Either way, I will interpret the verses I found the way I choose. My point is that no man on this earth can go around judging if I am a "good" or "bad" Christian.

If you interpret the bible without context or attention to original language than you are commiting blashemy which is very much against YHWH.

[Ad.min can suck my balls]

PoeticVengeance

Woohoo, ad homs make you smart sounding!

Woohoo, not knowing what an Ad Hominem is makes you smart sounding.

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Purgatory is a horrid corruption of Sheol and another issue I have with the Catholic Church.

Prove it.

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But no, Limbo isn't Canon, and is therefore invalid by your own admissions on what is valid to the Catholic Church.

Argumentum ad ignorantiam

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So either the babies are sent to Purgatory or heaven (its unlikely they'd be sent to hell.)

False dichotomy

[Half Baked SF]

lalobabaloo

Scare Tactic Propaganda

lalobabaloo

deadmanjake

lalobabaloo

To call anyone a "bad Christian" is a sin in itself. Who are you to judge me, a fellow sinner? Only God can judge in the end, and he isn't deciding if I were a "good" or "bad" Christian. Besides, I've found 4 passages reffering to being against homosexuality, and I will interpret them as I wish.

Pray tell, are any of those from the OT?

Yes, 2 of them are. The other two are in the NT.

How many of these were not mentioned on the first page or in here?

I'm not sure; I don't have them right here with me. Either way, I will interpret the verses I found the way I choose. My point is that no man on this earth can go around judging if I am a "good" or "bad" Christian.

So you'll deny reality and twist scripture around to suit your own needs? That's nice. biggrin

I can interpret To Kill a Mockingbird to mean blacks are bad, that doesn't make it the original point.

(Note: Of course I don't really believe that interpretation rolleyes )

[Ad.min can suck my balls]

Eshmasesh

I have no idea if this is actually true or not. But I heard on an episode of The Daily Show a while back that the Pope, or something to that effect, stated that babies don't go to limbo if they die. I'm pretty sure it was to make it easier for Africans that live in places with high infant mortality rates to convert.

It might have been the colbert report, it was too long ago for me to remember. Is this true at all?

I certainly wouldn't mind seeing a source for that.

[Eshmasesh]

Ad.min can suck my balls

Appeals to Tradition only apply when circumstances change, or the foundation of the Tradition was false. If the premise of the Tradition still holds true, it isn't fallacious.

Why do you think a premise which teaches that women are in any way not equal to men holds true in a society which teaches that men and women are equal?