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Well, if I was operating as a natural man, with no living understanding or Revelation of the Word, Wisdom, or Will of God, then I suppose to the limited understanding of my ability to grasp, then such would suffice as evidence, and be my place of limitation to stop.
Evidence seems to place no grasp over what experiences an individual may be privy to, and such as mystical experience may require some kind of empirical evidence. Which may not be based on scientific study.
When God supplies all my needs, and causes me to prosper in every area of my life, that's more than enough evidence to continue in support of the blessing.
smile Yes, evidence enough.
This is a complete and utter non sequitur, and a nonsensical one at that =/
If you have no understanding of the blessing of God, then of course it would be nonsensical to you. I'm not expecting you to understand it either. I rejoice, and I'm glad in it however.
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...it's a non sequitur. You've implicated that homosexuality is 1) a choice and 2) a sin. Both of these are claims, and both require evidence to back them. However, when asked to provide this evidence, you just spouted off some pseudo-philosophical tripe that makes no sense as if you think we'll agree with you simply because you can spout off something that sounds philosophical when really it's just a bunch of words strung together. What do you think we are, a bunch of bumbling idiots?
To a man that is natural minded, and not spiritual minded in the Mind of Christ, it would appear to be a non sequitur.
That is utter bullshit. Get that crap out of my thread.
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Yes, I believe homosexuality is a choice,
And that's crap too. You do realize this is fundamentally unsupportable?
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and a sin against the operation of God's design, origin and intent for mankind to have relationships with one another.
Then you need to provide evidence of this. I think you don't have any decent defense for this belief.
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I am not making a claim for such belief, I hold such belief, such is my subjective perspective, and thus of my own accord to believe accordingly. I have not made an assertion in claim that homosexuality is a sin. I have not told you that it is a fact/proof/truth that homosexuality is a sin, per assertion. I am not responsible to uphold a claim and produce proof when I have not done such. You cannot place a false burden on a person that never made a claim in the first place.
I believe homosexuality is a sin. If you agree with me or not, is of no consequence, I still believe it. Rather, if I tell you, homosexuality is a sin, and you better agree with me about it. Then you could ask for proof from me to show you how, why, etc.
That's not how this works. If you make a claim, you prove it or you concede the point.
If I say "I believe the moon is a big spaceship", anyone can and should insist that I provide proof. Statements of personal belief are no less claims. This is not a place for proselytization, or happy funtime talk about God. This is a serious, scholarly debate between adults. Many of us are experts in our own right, and many of us lose patience with posters like you for obvious reasons.
Arguing about what you think you have to prove without so much as having read the rules of this forum is a sign of supreme arrogance, not grace.
I do not care whether you agree with me so far as this forum is concerned. I do care if you pollute this discussion with meaningless, unsupported posts and stick your fingers in your ears when called on it.
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My personal beliefs do not require me to prove them to you in order to obtain my personal validation and of being convinced of what I already believe, in order to maintain such a perspective.
Personal beliefs are not a defense in this forum.
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I am not expecting you to agree with me at all.
At least you're not
that delusional.
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When did that thought cross your mind?
Oh, I don't know, maybe
the moment you entered a debate forum?
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You perceive it as some kind of, "pseudo-philosophical tripe" because you've no understanding of how the blessing works. So you can keep telling yourself that it's just a bunch of words, and if that makes you happy, or satisfied, then so be it.
Sorry, but that's a cop-out.
If you're going to make disingenuous claims like that, I'm going to have to see some proof.
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However, I will continue to be succesful in the faith and the opereation of God in my life, and always have Victory through Christ.
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Except that, as demonstrated, you are not successful in the faith based on what you have demonstrated here, God is certainly not making your mental processes sound in terms of Christianity or sense, and the only victory you
may possess is in believing that what ought to be a personal belief gives you some kind of license to be a complete idiot in public so long as you discuss it loudly.
That isn't following the bible or bringing God into your life. That's being a ******** hypocrite and doing the opposite.
Go ahead. Wonder why you're 'persecuted' and go pretend that saying you believe in something makes everything all better. Say that we'll all see in the end. Continue to piss all over the religion and give the rest of Yeshua's adherents a bad name. After all, you're
clearly right and anyone who disagrees with you must be wrong.
You're such a ******** hypocrite. I'm not even Christian and I'm still in the throes of revulsion right here for being in the same debate as you.
But congratulations on your little victory and all.
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