If you are against gay marriage, you are a bad Christian.

[xLady Tsukiyox]

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-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden

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-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden

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So, then how is a choice or lack thereof in regards to sodomy relevant?

The only problem with that is, homosexuality isn't a choice. Sorry but it's not. :3 If it were then the APA or American Psychology Association wouldn't have deemed the repressive theory as..well..bullshit to put it bluntly. :3

So, fallible concepts and conclusions produced from fallible men, with limited understanding, and finite conceptual application are thus the final authority on the matter and issue, and as such, you've decided to accept it, because they have produced such a conclusion? Lol, alright then.

Do you even know what the repressive theory is? Many Christian psychologist and secular psychologists alike once believed that if you repress homosexual feelings or any feelings at all then you would be normal in a sense. However there are dangers to repressing your feelings. Repressing feelings or even memories can leave one psychologically scarred.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32304475/ns/health-mental_health/

*Excuse me I meant reparitive...however it involves repressing those feelings also. :3

Also, the Bible was written by fallible men. How can you believe that it's infallible.?

Do you have any understanding of a person being delievered through the Holy Spirit, out of a place of sin,fear,lack,destruction,addiction, and being able to overcome, and be set free from bondage, and being subjected to demonic influences and directives?

Do you understand the power of the anointing of the Holy Ghost, in God's Love to overcome all of such sensual desires of man in the flesh that are not of God's design or original intent in purpose for man?

If a person is cleansed, or delievered from something that is going to destroy them, then why would a need to repress feelings be needed, if such feelings, thoughts, desires for such actions have been eliminated in entire, and that such person is delievered?

When did I claim that the Bible was infallible? If you're curious, then I'll express that I believe the Word of God is indeed infallible, and can never be less than infallible, amen.

Sorry but I don't believe in the concept of sin or a Holy Spirit or even your version of God.

You assumed that because the study was written by men, then it is fallible, however you think that the Bible is the only infallible work, despite the fact that it was written by fallible men. When fallible men touch a so called infallible book like the Bible, then it is tainted by the fallible man's touch. :3 Much like Midos'(sp?) touch

[zeffers]

-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden

zeffers

-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden

zeffers

-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden

zeffers

So, then how is a choice or lack thereof in regards to sodomy relevant?

The only problem with that is, homosexuality isn't a choice. Sorry but it's not. :3 If it were then the APA or American Psychology Association wouldn't have deemed the repressive theory as..well..bullshit to put it bluntly. :3

So, fallible concepts and conclusions produced from fallible men, with limited understanding, and finite conceptual application are thus the final authority on the matter and issue, and as such, you've decided to accept it, because they have produced such a conclusion? Lol, alright then.

Do you even know what the repressive theory is? Many Christian psychologist and secular psychologists alike once believed that if you repress homosexual feelings or any feelings at all then you would be normal in a sense. However there are dangers to repressing your feelings. Repressing feelings or even memories can leave one psychologically scarred.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32304475/ns/health-mental_health/

*Excuse me I meant reparitive...however it involves repressing those feelings also. :3

Also, the Bible was written by fallible men. How can you believe that it's infallible.?

Do you have any understanding of a person being delievered through the Holy Spirit, out of a place of sin,fear,lack,destruction,addiction, and being able to overcome, and be set free from bondage, and being subjected to demonic influences and directives?

Do you understand the power of the anointing of the Holy Ghost, in God's Love to overcome all of such sensual desires of man in the flesh that are not of God's design or original intent in purpose for man?

If a person is cleansed, or delievered from something that is going to destroy them, then why would a need to repress feelings be needed, if such feelings, thoughts, desires for such actions have been eliminated in entire, and that such person is delievered?

When did I claim that the Bible was infallible? If you're curious, then I'll express that I believe the Word of God is indeed infallible, and can never be less than infallible, amen.

Sorry but I don't believe in the concept of sin or a Holy Spirit or even your version of God.

You assumed that because the study was written by men, then it is fallible, however you think that the Bible is the only infallible work, despite the fact that it was written by fallible men. When fallible men touch a so called infallible book like the Bible, then it is tainted by the fallible man's touch. :3 Much like Midos'(sp?) touch

So you then have no understanding of anointed breakthrough in Christ. smile

I did not assume, I explained. I did not state that the Bible was/is infallible. I said that the Word of God is infallible. Would you like to try again? You are now assuming that I think the Bible is the only infallible work. Way to assume, draw a conclusion, and try and refute an argument never presented based off a claim never had.

[xLady Tsukiyox]

zeffers

-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden

zeffers

-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden

zeffers

So, fallible concepts and conclusions produced from fallible men, with limited understanding, and finite conceptual application are thus the final authority on the matter and issue, and as such, you've decided to accept it, because they have produced such a conclusion? Lol, alright then.

Do you even know what the repressive theory is? Many Christian psychologist and secular psychologists alike once believed that if you repress homosexual feelings or any feelings at all then you would be normal in a sense. However there are dangers to repressing your feelings. Repressing feelings or even memories can leave one psychologically scarred.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32304475/ns/health-mental_health/

*Excuse me I meant reparitive...however it involves repressing those feelings also. :3

Also, the Bible was written by fallible men. How can you believe that it's infallible.?

Do you have any understanding of a person being delievered through the Holy Spirit, out of a place of sin,fear,lack,destruction,addiction, and being able to overcome, and be set free from bondage, and being subjected to demonic influences and directives?

Do you understand the power of the anointing of the Holy Ghost, in God's Love to overcome all of such sensual desires of man in the flesh that are not of God's design or original intent in purpose for man?

If a person is cleansed, or delievered from something that is going to destroy them, then why would a need to repress feelings be needed, if such feelings, thoughts, desires for such actions have been eliminated in entire, and that such person is delievered?

When did I claim that the Bible was infallible? If you're curious, then I'll express that I believe the Word of God is indeed infallible, and can never be less than infallible, amen.

Sorry but I don't believe in the concept of sin or a Holy Spirit or even your version of God.

You assumed that because the study was written by men, then it is fallible, however you think that the Bible is the only infallible work, despite the fact that it was written by fallible men. When fallible men touch a so called infallible book like the Bible, then it is tainted by the fallible man's touch. :3 Much like Midos'(sp?) touch

So you then have no understanding of anointed breakthrough in Christ. smile

I did not assume, I explained. I did not state that the Bible was/is infallible. I said that the Word of God is infallible. Would you like to try again? You are not assuming that I think the Bible is the only infallible work. Way to assume, draw a conclusion, and try and refute an argument never presented based off a claim never had.

The Word of God is the Bible. The Greek word Biblios can be translated to mean book or word. :3

I have an understanding of the so called anointed breakthrough in Christ. However it is not applicable nor is it relevant to my beliefs. In short the concept of sin or being saved or anything relating to that, bears no relevance to me or my beliefs. :3

[zeffers]

-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden

zeffers

-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden

zeffers

-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden

zeffers

So, fallible concepts and conclusions produced from fallible men, with limited understanding, and finite conceptual application are thus the final authority on the matter and issue, and as such, you've decided to accept it, because they have produced such a conclusion? Lol, alright then.

Do you even know what the repressive theory is? Many Christian psychologist and secular psychologists alike once believed that if you repress homosexual feelings or any feelings at all then you would be normal in a sense. However there are dangers to repressing your feelings. Repressing feelings or even memories can leave one psychologically scarred.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32304475/ns/health-mental_health/

*Excuse me I meant reparitive...however it involves repressing those feelings also. :3

Also, the Bible was written by fallible men. How can you believe that it's infallible.?

Do you have any understanding of a person being delievered through the Holy Spirit, out of a place of sin,fear,lack,destruction,addiction, and being able to overcome, and be set free from bondage, and being subjected to demonic influences and directives?

Do you understand the power of the anointing of the Holy Ghost, in God's Love to overcome all of such sensual desires of man in the flesh that are not of God's design or original intent in purpose for man?

If a person is cleansed, or delievered from something that is going to destroy them, then why would a need to repress feelings be needed, if such feelings, thoughts, desires for such actions have been eliminated in entire, and that such person is delievered?

When did I claim that the Bible was infallible? If you're curious, then I'll express that I believe the Word of God is indeed infallible, and can never be less than infallible, amen.

Sorry but I don't believe in the concept of sin or a Holy Spirit or even your version of God.

You assumed that because the study was written by men, then it is fallible, however you think that the Bible is the only infallible work, despite the fact that it was written by fallible men. When fallible men touch a so called infallible book like the Bible, then it is tainted by the fallible man's touch. :3 Much like Midos'(sp?) touch

So you then have no understanding of anointed breakthrough in Christ. smile

I did not assume, I explained. I did not state that the Bible was/is infallible. I said that the Word of God is infallible. Would you like to try again? You are not assuming that I think the Bible is the only infallible work. Way to assume, draw a conclusion, and try and refute an argument never presented based off a claim never had.

The Word of God is the Bible. The Greek word Biblios can be translated to mean book or word. :3

I have an understanding of the so called anointed breakthrough in Christ. However it is not applicable nor is it relevant to my beliefs. In short the concept of sin or being saved or anything relating to that, bears no relevance to me or my beliefs. :3

Having a living understanding of the Word, would lead you into the wisdom of God, and lead you in understanding of all such things. The Word of God may be, in part contained within a finite bit of text. However, the Word of God is infinite, as God is infinite, ( accordingly ) and thus, the finite bit of text can not possibly hold the infinite scope of God's Spoken and Written Word in entire, ever.

I'm not speaking of simple Salvation alone, I am speaking of breakthrough in every area or arena of one's life. Spiritual, Physical, and Financial. smile The God of breakthrough Who is abundantly able to provide for us, more than enough. smile And to lead us into all Truth. smile

It's not enough just to pray a small prayer and say Jesus is now your Lord, or Master, or Savior. I'm speaking of so much more than such.

[Lord Setar]

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-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden

zeffers

-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden

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Why do you feel concern to ask me such?

Because you feel concern to say that homosexuality is disgusting. neutral

So, then how is a choice or lack thereof in regards to sodomy relevant?

The only problem with that is, homosexuality isn't a choice. Sorry but it's not. :3 If it were then the APA or American Psychology Association wouldn't have deemed the repressive theory as..well..bullshit to put it bluntly. :3

So, fallible concepts and conclusions produced from fallible men, with limited understanding, and finite conceptual application are thus the final authority on the matter and issue, and as such, you've decided to accept it, because they have produced such a conclusion? Lol, alright then.

Well, see, these guys have evidence to back their claims...do you have any to back yours?

[Lord Setar]

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-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden

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I don't mind being placed under a label of being a, "bad Christian" because I am vehemently against homosexuality, and any activity in which homosexuality may occur. The judgment of other people really has no bearing on my life. As if a person has the right position to judge over someone like myself, because they are so correct in every action they partake, right...

Why are you against homosexuality? You know it's not a sin right?

Why is homosexuality not a sin?

Bible doesn't seem to say that it is a sin, so...

[linaloki]

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linaloki

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I commit no sodomy with anybody, and actually I commit no sexual activity, not until I am married. smile Though that's not really relevant.

So, will you continue the no sodomy thing in marriage? No a**l sex? No oral sex?

Why do you feel concern to ask me such?

Making sure you check your own planks before attacking any specks.

[linaloki]

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-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden

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-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden

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Why do you feel concern to ask me such?

Because you feel concern to say that homosexuality is disgusting. neutral

So, then how is a choice or lack thereof in regards to sodomy relevant?

The only problem with that is, homosexuality isn't a choice. Sorry but it's not. :3 If it were then the APA or American Psychology Association wouldn't have deemed the repressive theory as..well..bullshit to put it bluntly. :3

So, fallible concepts and conclusions produced from fallible men, with limited understanding, and finite conceptual application are thus the final authority on the matter and issue, and as such, you've decided to accept it, because they have produced such a conclusion? Lol, alright then.

And by what means have you reached your conclusion that homosexuality is a choice, hm? I guarantee fallible concepts, conclusions, and men are involved. Limited understanding and finite conceptual applications, too.

[zeffers]

linaloki

zeffers

-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden

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-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden

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Why do you feel concern to ask me such?

Because you feel concern to say that homosexuality is disgusting. neutral

So, then how is a choice or lack thereof in regards to sodomy relevant?

The only problem with that is, homosexuality isn't a choice. Sorry but it's not. :3 If it were then the APA or American Psychology Association wouldn't have deemed the repressive theory as..well..bullshit to put it bluntly. :3

So, fallible concepts and conclusions produced from fallible men, with limited understanding, and finite conceptual application are thus the final authority on the matter and issue, and as such, you've decided to accept it, because they have produced such a conclusion? Lol, alright then.

And by what means have you reached your conclusion that homosexuality is a choice, hm? I guarantee fallible concepts, conclusions, and men are involved. Limited understanding and finite conceptual applications, too.

Is God a fallible being, is God capable of fallible action, and is His Truth fallible? smile

[zeffers]

Lord Setar

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-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden

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-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden

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Why do you feel concern to ask me such?

Because you feel concern to say that homosexuality is disgusting. neutral

So, then how is a choice or lack thereof in regards to sodomy relevant?

The only problem with that is, homosexuality isn't a choice. Sorry but it's not. :3 If it were then the APA or American Psychology Association wouldn't have deemed the repressive theory as..well..bullshit to put it bluntly. :3

So, fallible concepts and conclusions produced from fallible men, with limited understanding, and finite conceptual application are thus the final authority on the matter and issue, and as such, you've decided to accept it, because they have produced such a conclusion? Lol, alright then.

Well, see, these guys have evidence to back their claims...do you have any to back yours?

Well, if I was operating as a natural man, with no living understanding or Revelation of the Word, Wisdom, or Will of God, then I suppose to the limited understanding of my ability to grasp, then such would suffice as evidence, and be my place of limitation to stop.

Evidence seems to place no grasp over what experiences an individual may be privy to, and such as mystical experience may require some kind of empirical evidence. Which may not be based on scientific study.

When God supplies all my needs, and causes me to prosper in every area of my life, that's more than enough evidence to continue in support of the blessing. smile Yes, evidence enough.

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[Lord Setar]

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Lord Setar

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-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden

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So, then how is a choice or lack thereof in regards to sodomy relevant?

The only problem with that is, homosexuality isn't a choice. Sorry but it's not. :3 If it were then the APA or American Psychology Association wouldn't have deemed the repressive theory as..well..bullshit to put it bluntly. :3

So, fallible concepts and conclusions produced from fallible men, with limited understanding, and finite conceptual application are thus the final authority on the matter and issue, and as such, you've decided to accept it, because they have produced such a conclusion? Lol, alright then.

Well, see, these guys have evidence to back their claims...do you have any to back yours?

Well, if I was operating as a natural man, with no living understanding or Revelation of the Word, Wisdom, or Will of God, then I suppose to the limited understanding of my ability to grasp, then such would suffice as evidence, and be my place of limitation to stop.

Evidence seems to place no grasp over what experiences an individual may be privy to, and such as mystical experience may require some kind of empirical evidence. Which may not be based on scientific study.

When God supplies all my needs, and causes me to prosper in every area of my life, that's more than enough evidence to continue in support of the blessing. smile Yes, evidence enough.

This is a complete and utter non sequitur, and a nonsensical one at that =/

[Yuki Goes Rawr]

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Lord Setar

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-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden

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So, then how is a choice or lack thereof in regards to sodomy relevant?

The only problem with that is, homosexuality isn't a choice. Sorry but it's not. :3 If it were then the APA or American Psychology Association wouldn't have deemed the repressive theory as..well..bullshit to put it bluntly. :3

So, fallible concepts and conclusions produced from fallible men, with limited understanding, and finite conceptual application are thus the final authority on the matter and issue, and as such, you've decided to accept it, because they have produced such a conclusion? Lol, alright then.

Well, see, these guys have evidence to back their claims...do you have any to back yours?

Well, if I was operating as a natural man, with no living understanding or Revelation of the Word, Wisdom, or Will of God, then I suppose to the limited understanding of my ability to grasp, then such would suffice as evidence, and be my place of limitation to stop.
Evidence seems to place no grasp over what experiences an individual may be privy to, and such as mystical experience may require some kind of empirical evidence. Which may not be based on scientific study.
When God supplies all my needs, and causes me to prosper in every area of my life, that's more than enough evidence to continue in support of the blessing. smile Yes, evidence enough.

"I have no evidence, so I'll just talk for a bit and hope they forget, lawl"

[zeffers]

Lord Setar

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Lord Setar

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-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden

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So, then how is a choice or lack thereof in regards to sodomy relevant?

The only problem with that is, homosexuality isn't a choice. Sorry but it's not. :3 If it were then the APA or American Psychology Association wouldn't have deemed the repressive theory as..well..bullshit to put it bluntly. :3

So, fallible concepts and conclusions produced from fallible men, with limited understanding, and finite conceptual application are thus the final authority on the matter and issue, and as such, you've decided to accept it, because they have produced such a conclusion? Lol, alright then.

Well, see, these guys have evidence to back their claims...do you have any to back yours?

Well, if I was operating as a natural man, with no living understanding or Revelation of the Word, Wisdom, or Will of God, then I suppose to the limited understanding of my ability to grasp, then such would suffice as evidence, and be my place of limitation to stop.

Evidence seems to place no grasp over what experiences an individual may be privy to, and such as mystical experience may require some kind of empirical evidence. Which may not be based on scientific study.

When God supplies all my needs, and causes me to prosper in every area of my life, that's more than enough evidence to continue in support of the blessing. smile Yes, evidence enough.

This is a complete and utter non sequitur, and a nonsensical one at that =/

If you have no understanding of the blessing of God, then of course it would be nonsensical to you. I'm not expecting you to understand it either. I rejoice, and I'm glad in it however. smile