Edward Cullen - Abusive Boyfriend (Eclipse SPOILERS)

Your opinion?

I knew it all along.	61.8%	[ 1576 ]
Good points, but I'm not convinced.	15.4%	[ 393 ]
You're wrong, and I will post my rebuttal.	11.5%	[ 293 ]
But it's True Love!	11.4%	[ 290 ]
Total Votes:			[ 2552 ]

[Emerald of Your Eye]

Dominic Knight

jenner_lee

Dominic Knight

jenner_lee

Dominic Knight

Back to the main point.

Edward doesn't want Bella to become a vampire. He's being over protective because he's completely against the idea, besides the fact that he wants her to live a long life. Edward is making the choice for her. He did the same thing in the whole vote at the end of New Moon, where Bella asked the whole family. Everyone said yes expect for Rosalie and Edward. If he loves her so much, why would he let her die, and then just end life from there? That makes no sense. If you love someone to the extent that Edward does love Bella, you'd want to be with them forever. Thus he should want her to be immortal.

Because he want her to go to Heaven so when the world ends she won't go Hell!

But if Edward can't live without her, then he'd want to be with her forever.

There in lies the dilemma!! and why we have been talking about Edward killing himself!

But him choosing for her, is being abusive and over protective.

As I said before he won't do it but if Charlsie does it he can't stop them. He has the right to choose not to do it.
Also you can compare this to two teenagers in car and one say lets drive on the wrong side of the road and one says no because it's too dangerous.

[Minari]

The Thrill of Twilight

2 aganist 1

Ohnoes, we're ganging up on her rolleyes Honestly, it's frightening to debate against more people with bigger numbers, especially to be alone, but it's not like we're beating up on her. We're debating. I'm glad you're here to add more insight, but... we're not schoolyard bullies or anything.

[Dominic Knight]

Ah, that's right. XD Dom doesn't have a girlfriend, and is not very good with relationships. >.< I could write them, but can't talk about them the same way as I write it. XD

[Emerald of Your Eye]

Minari

jenner_lee

1. Ah touche! But love is a little different, it transcends while, some of the things you pointed out seem to trivial
2.He won't do it, but he can't ans won't stop her if someone else [Charlise] will.

1. Waitwait! No [insert explitive here] way! There is no possible way that you can say what goes and what doesn't. How do you know that he can love her but not abuse her? Doesn't that seem like cheating? Either he can love her enough to kill himself for her and he can abuse her, or he can do neither. Abuse transcends species, too. (As I have proven)
2. I'm sure he'd be damn upset about it. He'd probably seduce her into changing her mind, too.

@Domni:

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If you love someone to the extent that Edward does love Bella, you'd want to be with them forever. Thus he should want her to be immortal.

Not quite right. If he loves her that much he should want her to do what makes her happy/what she believes in. If that's being immortal, then he he can be upset about it, but should respect that decision.

He has begged her but she won't change her mind, and he would have the right to be upset.

[The Thrill of Twilight]

Minari

The Thrill of Twilight

2 aganist 1

Ohnoes, we're ganging up on her rolleyes Honestly, it's frightening to debate against more people with bigger numbers, especially to be alone, but it's not like we're beating up on her. We're debating. I'm glad you're here to add more insight, but... we're not schoolyard bullies or anything.

Wasn't saying that xD I was just observing.....Schoolyard Bullies...Icky xD

[Emerald of Your Eye]

Minari

The Thrill of Twilight

2 aganist 1

Ohnoes, we're ganging up on her rolleyes Honestly, it's frightening to debate against more people with bigger numbers, especially to be alone, but it's not like we're beating up on her. We're debating. I'm glad you're here to add more insight, but... we're not schoolyard bullies or anything.

I've been holding up on my own Carly! But I'm glad you guys are back!

[The Thrill of Twilight]

jenner_lee

Minari

jenner_lee

1. Ah touche! But love is a little different, it transcends while, some of the things you pointed out seem to trivial
2.He won't do it, but he can't ans won't stop her if someone else [Charlise] will.

1. Waitwait! No [insert explitive here] way! There is no possible way that you can say what goes and what doesn't. How do you know that he can love her but not abuse her? Doesn't that seem like cheating? Either he can love her enough to kill himself for her and he can abuse her, or he can do neither. Abuse transcends species, too. (As I have proven)
2. I'm sure he'd be damn upset about it. He'd probably seduce her into changing her mind, too.

@Domni:

Quote:

If you love someone to the extent that Edward does love Bella, you'd want to be with them forever. Thus he should want her to be immortal.

Not quite right. If he loves her that much he should want her to do what makes her happy/what she believes in. If that's being immortal, then he he can be upset about it, but should respect that decision.

He has begged her but she won't change her mind, and he would have the right to be upset.

He broke an Imported T.V Because he was out Voted! Emmett was rather pissed.

[Emerald of Your Eye]

Honestly I still don't know why were debating I'm not gonna change my mind and I'm sure you guys aren't gonig to change yours but I'm having fun so I don't care!!

[Emerald of Your Eye]

The Thrill of Twilight

jenner_lee

Minari

jenner_lee

1. Ah touche! But love is a little different, it transcends while, some of the things you pointed out seem to trivial
2.He won't do it, but he can't ans won't stop her if someone else [Charlise] will.

1. Waitwait! No [insert explitive here] way! There is no possible way that you can say what goes and what doesn't. How do you know that he can love her but not abuse her? Doesn't that seem like cheating? Either he can love her enough to kill himself for her and he can abuse her, or he can do neither. Abuse transcends species, too. (As I have proven)
2. I'm sure he'd be damn upset about it. He'd probably seduce her into changing her mind, too.

@Domni:

Quote:

If you love someone to the extent that Edward does love Bella, you'd want to be with them forever. Thus he should want her to be immortal.

Not quite right. If he loves her that much he should want her to do what makes her happy/what she believes in. If that's being immortal, then he he can be upset about it, but should respect that decision.

He has begged her but she won't change her mind, and he would have the right to be upset.

He broke an Imported T.V Because he was out Voted! Emmett was rather pissed.

Emmett beat the crap outta him lol.

[Minari]

jenner_lee

As I said before he won't do it but if Charlsie does it he can't stop them. He has the right to choose not to do it.
Also you can compare this to two teenagers in car and one say lets drive on the wrong side of the road and one says no because it's too dangerous.

Like I said, Edward would be quite angry, I imagine, if Bella had someone else change her. And the last thing she wants is him to be angry with her. Also as I said, he would seduce her out of it.

And it's not quite like that. Because, unlike driving on the wrong side of the road, it's just Edward's opinion. It hasn't been proved that vampires don't get the afterlife and stuff.

Quote:

He has begged her but she won't change her mind, and he would have the right to be upset.

Um... not really. It's still her life, her decision. Does he have the right to do either of the things I said he probably would? Not in the slightest.

And I'm sorry you're not having fun, I thought you enjoyed the debate o.0 If you don't like debating, don't post in threads accusing a character you like of being abusive. I know why I'm debating, but if you don't anymore, then just go and have a happy rest of the night.

@Dom: You're doing fine o.0


@Thrill: Okay, just making sureXP

[The Thrill of Twilight]

Minari

jenner_lee

As I said before he won't do it but if Charlsie does it he can't stop them. He has the right to choose not to do it.
Also you can compare this to two teenagers in car and one say lets drive on the wrong side of the road and one says no because it's too dangerous.

Like I said, Edward would be quite angry, I imagine, if Bella had someone else change her. And the last thing she wants is him to be angry with her. Also as I said, he would seduce her out of it.

And it's not quite like that. Because, unlike driving on the wrong side of the road, it's just Edward's opinion. It hasn't been proved that vampires don't get the afterlife and stuff.

Quote:

He has begged her but she won't change her mind, and he would have the right to be upset.

Um... not really. It's still her life, her decision. Does he have the right to do either of the things I said he probably would? Not in the slightest.

And I'm sorry you're not having fun, I thought you enjoyed the debate o.0 If you don't like debating, don't post in threads accusing a character you like of being abusive. I know why I'm debating, but if you don't anymore, then just go and have a happy rest of the night.

@Dom: You're doing fine o.0


@Thrill: Okay, just making sureXP

rofl

I'm not trying to be a brat, but can you use quotes from the book to support your arguments.........I mean the way you guys are analyzing these things seem a bit off.

[Dominic Knight]

Using actual quotes, like straight from the book takes a lot of time. A LOT of time.

[Emerald of Your Eye]

Minari

jenner_lee

As I said before he won't do it but if Charlsie does it he can't stop them. He has the right to choose not to do it.
Also you can compare this to two teenagers in car and one say lets drive on the wrong side of the road and one says no because it's too dangerous.

Like I said, Edward would be quite angry, I imagine, if Bella had someone else change her. And the last thing she wants is him to be angry with her. Also as I said, he would seduce her out of it.

And it's not quite like that. Because, unlike driving on the wrong side of the road, it's just Edward's opinion. It hasn't been proved that vampires don't get the afterlife and stuff.

Quote:

He has begged her but she won't change her mind, and he would have the right to be upset.

Um... not really. It's still her life, her decision. Does he have the right to do either of the things I said he probably would? Not in the slightest.

And I'm sorry you're not having fun, I thought you enjoyed the debate o.0 If you don't like debating, don't post in threads accusing a character you like of being abusive. I know why I'm debating, but if you don't anymore, then just go and have a happy rest of the night.

@Dom: You're doing fine o.0


@Thrill: Okay, just making sureXP

1.Oh no I AM having fun!!!load acctullay!! It's fun to debate with intellagint people!

2. I Somebodys parents beg them not to marry some one because they don't think that there good for them and they do anyway I can understand them being a little miffed, just as I can understand Edward being a little miffed he would get over it eventullay.

[Pink Colored Pencil]

Wow you guys have gone up 6 pages since i have left.

[The Thrill of Twilight]

Dominic Knight

Using actual quotes, like straight from the book takes a lot of time. A LOT of time.

Maybe o-o; But but its better spending your time doing it then not.