Edward Cullen - Abusive Boyfriend (Eclipse SPOILERS)

Your opinion?

I knew it all along.	61.8%	[ 1576 ]
Good points, but I'm not convinced.	15.4%	[ 393 ]
You're wrong, and I will post my rebuttal.	11.5%	[ 293 ]
But it's True Love!	11.4%	[ 290 ]
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[Emerald of Your Eye]

Minari

Dominic Knight

Minari

@Domni: Look, my Knight in shining armour! (I'm so punny tonight)

'Nari! My princess~! (I'm in a punny mood too)

I am like a princess, aren't I? *Primps*

Please don't flrit here, This is not the place.

[Dominic Knight]

jenner_lee

Dominic Knight

jenner_lee

Minari

jenner_lee

Yes I know you have many other points but This one you have brought up on more than once and now it is null and void and I find that very satisfactory.

It's not null or void. His life rests on hers and that restricts her freedom.

How can she help dying? Bella has brought that up many times. Unless she is turned into a vampire then it wouldn't be a problem.

But see, Edward is being over protective of Bella by not wanting anyone in their family to turn her. Granted, Alice is willing to some extent, and so are other members. But Edward is really protective of her. I'd say why not. But he really doesn't want her to become a vampire.

Well if my boyfriend didn't want me to burn in hell I would find that sweet.

Oh! You know what I just released? If Edward really did want Bella to be nonsocial he would have changed her by now because as a new vampire they would have to go somewhere without humans. Or in other words alone

If your boyfriend were immortal, and could make you immortal too, would you rather be with him, or in the afterlife once you died?

Personally, I'd want to be with my girlfriend (granted if I actually had one).

This is really the only speed bump in their relationship. Typically couples have more than one speed bump to get over than just one thing.

[Emerald of Your Eye]

Minari

jenner_lee

Minari

jenner_lee

Not every human moves on, their are individuals that don't so as an individual I don't think Edward would.

But you would think that they would have skills that allow them to move on, like, as a species. Like how we move on from a childhood crush; if we didn't, the race wouldn't go on. He must have some natural move-on powers, that would atleast allow him to recover somewhat.

@Domni: Look, my Knight in shining armour! (I'm so punny tonight)

Yes I'm sure the species, but I said individuals And as an individual I don't think Edward would. He would try, but I don't think he could.

The idea is that even the rarest individual would have some power. Enough that they could live through it. Like how every human us born with hunger. This isn't about the psychology of the individual, but the biology of the species.

Yes, as I said before he would try but like all people who kill themselves they try but in the end it's to much!! That's what I'm saying.

[Dominic Knight]

jenner_lee

Minari

Dominic Knight

Minari

@Domni: Look, my Knight in shining armour! (I'm so punny tonight)

'Nari! My princess~! (I'm in a punny mood too)

I am like a princess, aren't I? *Primps*

Please don't flrit here, This is not the place.

Don't worry. That's the end of the flirting. xD It's our typical hello.

[Emerald of Your Eye]

Dominic Knight

jenner_lee

Dominic Knight

jenner_lee

Minari

jenner_lee

Yes I know you have many other points but This one you have brought up on more than once and now it is null and void and I find that very satisfactory.

It's not null or void. His life rests on hers and that restricts her freedom.

How can she help dying? Bella has brought that up many times. Unless she is turned into a vampire then it wouldn't be a problem.

But see, Edward is being over protective of Bella by not wanting anyone in their family to turn her. Granted, Alice is willing to some extent, and so are other members. But Edward is really protective of her. I'd say why not. But he really doesn't want her to become a vampire.

Well if my boyfriend didn't want me to burn in hell I would find that sweet.

Oh! You know what I just released? If Edward really did want Bella to be nonsocial he would have changed her by now because as a new vampire they would have to go somewhere without humans. Or in other words alone

If your boyfriend were immortal, and could make you immortal too, would you rather be with him, or in the afterlife once you died?

Personally, I'd want to be with my girlfriend (granted if I actually had one).

This is really the only speed bump in their relationship. Typically couples have more than one speed bump to get over than just one thing.

I'd like to be in Heaven honestly.

[Dominic Knight]

So, if you don't really love your boyfriend, you'd rather not be with him forever.

Just say you loved your boyfriend that you wanted to marry him. Would you want to spend all eternity with him? Or leave him for heaven?

[Emerald of Your Eye]

Dominic Knight

So, if you don't really love your boyfriend, you'd rather not be with him forever.

Just say you loved your boyfriend that you wanted to marry him. Would you want to spend all eternity with him? Or leave him for heaven?

Honestly! In Heaven you don't think you will see you loved one's again? If my boyfriend died and went to Heaven we would be together in paradise! I would prefer that.

[Dominic Knight]

jenner_lee

Dominic Knight

So, if you don't really love your boyfriend, you'd rather not be with him forever.

Just say you loved your boyfriend that you wanted to marry him. Would you want to spend all eternity with him? Or leave him for heaven?

Honestly! In Heaven you don't think you will see you loved one's agian?

If they're immortal, they wouldn't die.

[Emerald of Your Eye]

Dominic Knight

jenner_lee

Dominic Knight

So, if you don't really love your boyfriend, you'd rather not be with him forever.

Just say you loved your boyfriend that you wanted to marry him. Would you want to spend all eternity with him? Or leave him for heaven?

Honestly! In Heaven you don't think you will see you loved one's agian?

If they're immortal, I don't think you would.

They can be killed. And this is my preference not Bella's. Bella I think Would much rather be with Edward.

[Dominic Knight]

jenner_lee

Dominic Knight

jenner_lee

Dominic Knight

So, if you don't really love your boyfriend, you'd rather not be with him forever.

Just say you loved your boyfriend that you wanted to marry him. Would you want to spend all eternity with him? Or leave him for heaven?

Honestly! In Heaven you don't think you will see you loved one's agian?

If they're immortal, I don't think you would.

They can be killed.

...Yes, inTwilight the vampires can be killed. But if you're immortal you don't die.

[Minari]

I wasn't exactly flirting, just primping. Hurumph.

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Yes, as I said before he would try but like all people who kill themselves they try but in the end it's to much!! That's what I'm saying.

And what I'm saing is that biology should prevent him from taking it that badly. The species wants itself to survive; it'll figured for that.

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Oh! You know what I just released? If Edward really did want Bella to be nonsocial he would have changed her by now because as a new vampire they would have to go somewhere without humans. Or in other words alone

Or he could not comprimise his morals, keep his dominant position, and just tell her they're shallow.

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I'd like to be in Heaven honestly.

But remember, Bella's heaven is Edward. He's deciding what's best for her. That's controlling.

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Honestly! In Heaven you don't think you will see you loved one's again? If my boyfriend died and went to Heaven we would be together in paradise! I would prefer that.

Not if your boyfriend, the most important person to you ever says he doesn't get to go to heaven.

EDIT: Was missing a quote.

[Emerald of Your Eye]

Minari

jenner_lee

I'd like to be in Heaven honestly.

And I wasn't exactly flirting, just primping. Hurumph.

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Yes, as I said before he would try but like all people who kill themselves they try but in the end it's to much!! That's what I'm saying.

And what I'm saing is that biology should prevent him from taking it that badly. The species wants itself to survive; it'll figured for that.

Biology does not stop all humans form killing themselves

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Oh! You know what I just released? If Edward really did want Bella to be nonsocial he would have changed her by now because as a new vampire they would have to go somewhere without humans. Or in other words alone

Or he could not comprimise his morals, keep his dominant position, and just tell her they're shallow.

But remember, Bella's heaven is Edward. He's deciding what's best for her. That's controlling.

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He called one preson shallow and she is!! He did not say every preson Bella has ever met is shallow.

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Honestly! In Heaven you don't think you will see you loved one's again? If my boyfriend died and went to Heaven we would be together in paradise! I would prefer that.

Not if your boyfriend, the most important person to you ever says he doesn't get to go to heaven.

My perferance!! Not Bellas!!! Bella would want to by immortal!

[Emerald of Your Eye]

Dominic Knight

jenner_lee

Dominic Knight

jenner_lee

Dominic Knight

So, if you don't really love your boyfriend, you'd rather not be with him forever.

Just say you loved your boyfriend that you wanted to marry him. Would you want to spend all eternity with him? Or leave him for heaven?

Honestly! In Heaven you don't think you will see you loved one's agian?

If they're immortal, I don't think you would.

They can be killed.

...Yes, inTwilight the vampires can be killed. But if you're immortal you don't die.

Yes I know that, but if they are killed, what would you do then?
Oh and we are kinda talking about Twilight so thats all that matters.

[Dominic Knight]

Yeah... Bella's logic is too screwy. She's unaffected by being attacked by James. She gets mad at Edward for calling her mom after the attack. Bella hates humans, and tends to refer to herself as not being human.... I do that in a joking manner, but I do admit to being human.

[Minari]

I'll assume that you have no comment on my other points?

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Biology does not stop all humans form killing themselves

Nope, and I'm sure there are some very drastic things that would drive vampires to do it, too. But they would have to be a lot worse than that. Same way that something that would drive a mayfly to suicide would seem trivial to us.

And:I know it's Bella we're talking about. The fact that he forces Bella to conform to his beliefs (that vampires have no souls and no afterlife) and to have what he would want (an afterlife) is controlling of him. It's her life, she gets to choose how it ends.