Edward Cullen - Abusive Boyfriend (Eclipse SPOILERS)

Your opinion?

I knew it all along.	61.8%	[ 1576 ]
Good points, but I'm not convinced.	15.4%	[ 393 ]
You're wrong, and I will post my rebuttal.	11.5%	[ 293 ]
But it's True Love!	11.4%	[ 290 ]
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Alice Parker

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Ritzy_freak

Dude, I understand why I never liked him now!!! Thank you!!!

This only proves that your are Edward haters and your only using this to reason to bash him. I may not like Edward but I find this Discussion horrendously pointless.

You do know that you don't have to be here, right? confused

I have ever right. I can put in as many comments as I would like.

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Minari

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I'm sorry, but commiting sucide shows more devotion then giving a girls flowers. Not being abusive.

Actually, if you'd read the rebuttals, you would have seen it stated several times that telling someone you would die without them is a control tactic. We all know that Bella would never leave Edward, freak that she is, but if she did want to, could she do it knowing it would cause his death? Control Tactic Look! This is what it is! Imagine someone writes a book about someone committing suicide, and it leads someone to do so; things happen in books that authors didn't intend!

Edit to Clarify: Therefor, Edward and Bella can be in a relationship that would be abusive in real life, regardless of whether the author or the characters know it.

But this is a vampire here. He thinks he will lose his soul or never go to heaven if he dies.

That, uh, doesn't make it any less of a control tactic o.0

And yes, you do have every right to post. We just think it's sort of pointless for you to continue posting in a thread you think is pointless. Duh.

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Minari

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Ritzy_freak

Dude, I understand why I never liked him now!!! Thank you!!!

This only proves that your are Edward haters and your only using this to reason to bash him. I may not like Edward but I find this Discussion horrendously pointless.

No it doesn't. It shows that we've said something that's clicked with someone else. Once again: something happened that the author didn't intend! Gosh!

Also, if you find the discussion pointless, then leave it for the people who do. All you've contributed is rehashed repititions of already posted arguements anyway.

Me leave no i don't want to. I think its pointless but who said i wanted to leave. Your reading to much into things

[Alice Parker]

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Alice Parker

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Ritzy_freak

Dude, I understand why I never liked him now!!! Thank you!!!

This only proves that your are Edward haters and your only using this to reason to bash him. I may not like Edward but I find this Discussion horrendously pointless.

You do know that you don't have to be here, right? confused

I have ever right. I can put in as many comments as I would like.

I'm completely aware of that, it's just that you seem to think this thread is pointless so I'm wondering why you're wasting your time here.

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Minari

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I'm sorry, but commiting sucide shows more devotion then giving a girls flowers. Not being abusive.

Actually, if you'd read the rebuttals, you would have seen it stated several times that telling someone you would die without them is a control tactic. We all know that Bella would never leave Edward, freak that she is, but if she did want to, could she do it knowing it would cause his death? Control Tactic Look! This is what it is! Imagine someone writes a book about someone committing suicide, and it leads someone to do so; things happen in books that authors didn't intend!

Edit to Clarify: Therefor, Edward and Bella can be in a relationship that would be abusive in real life, regardless of whether the author or the characters know it.

He said she could always leave him ...It's in the bloody book.

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Alice Parker

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Ritzy_freak

Dude, I understand why I never liked him now!!! Thank you!!!

This only proves that your are Edward haters and your only using this to reason to bash him. I may not like Edward but I find this Discussion horrendously pointless.

You do know that you don't have to be here, right? confused

I have ever right. I can put in as many comments as I would like.

Okay then, what are your arguments? you have the floor, say what you will.

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Alice Parker

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Your are using human relationship facts Honey let me tell you something Edward anit human. So let me tell you a thing or two about debating. Never give your opponent a chance to rebuttal.
I think you have never even read the books. Abusive no. There is only one jealous person in the whole book and that is Jacob. Now lets recall Jacob likes Bella, Bella does not like Jacob like that, therefore making Jacob mad (werewolf thing about it) and making him dangerous, there for that is a perfect reason for Edward to want Bella to stay away from him. . He 'wants' not ordering her to.Its like a older brother telling his sister she should not go out with a thug. WE MUST ALSO RECALL THAT HE LEAVES DURING THE FIRST HALF OF THE SECOND BOOK BUT IT IS BELLA WHO GOES CHASING AFTER EDWARD, NOT EDWARD AFTER BELLA. He is a Vampire. Its like having a your favorite candy sitting in front of you but your on a diet. I mean if she a abused she would not be with him.
I am going to state this as many people have said before Vampire and werewolf's are mortal enemies
and why are you debating over this topic anyway its pointless because you are never going to change the book and all the fandoms mind.

oh when your debating try to be fair

How do you know that if she was abused she would not be with him? Don't you know some reasons that women stay in abusive relationships are:

1.) Their partner promises to change.
2.) The think they're in love.
3.) Their partner says they'll die without them. Sounds like Ed. huh?

And if you're going to argue, please organize the content. I only got about half of what you said.

Hmmm.........Makes perfect sense if you have the ability to read, so maybe re-read it. Its just stating that

1)Edward is not human,hence stating human emotions to him are not correct.
2)Jacob is the possesive one ,not Edward
3)He has never raised a hand to her,nor has the author ever stated it...so where are you getting this information...please quote the book and not some made up insanity that means nothing.
4)Oh and trust me if your best friend was going out with your enemy you would be a bit up tight about it .

Ed tries to commit suicide when he thinks Bella is dead. Now I know it's not an actual quote but it's in New Moon. And Edward has said that when Bella dies he'll kill himself.

Thats what you call true love not abuse.

No, that's what *you* call true love. And I'd much rather have flowers than a dead body, but that's just me.

Oh wait he ALREADY is dead......

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Minari

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I'm sorry, but commiting sucide shows more devotion then giving a girls flowers. Not being abusive.

Actually, if you'd read the rebuttals, you would have seen it stated several times that telling someone you would die without them is a control tactic. We all know that Bella would never leave Edward, freak that she is, but if she did want to, could she do it knowing it would cause his death? Control Tactic Look! This is what it is! Imagine someone writes a book about someone committing suicide, and it leads someone to do so; things happen in books that authors didn't intend!

Edit to Clarify: Therefor, Edward and Bella can be in a relationship that would be abusive in real life, regardless of whether the author or the characters know it.

He said she could always leave him ...It's in the bloody book.

Just because he said it, doesn't mean it's the truth. Sheesh. Putting the two quotes together, it runs like this, "you can leave whenever you want, I'll just kill myself if you do."

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Alice Parker

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Hmmm.........Makes perfect sense if you have the ability to read, so maybe re-read it. Its just stating that

1)Edward is not human,hence stating human emotions to him are not correct.
2)Jacob is the possesive one ,not Edward
3)He has never raised a hand to her,nor has the author ever stated it...so where are you getting this information...please quote the book and not some made up insanity that means nothing.
4)Oh and trust me if your best friend was going out with your enemy you would be a bit up tight about it .

Ed tries to commit suicide when he thinks Bella is dead. Now I know it's not an actual quote but it's in New Moon. And Edward has said that when Bella dies he'll kill himself.

Thats what you call true love not abuse.

No, that's what *you* call true love. And I'd much rather have flowers than a dead body, but that's just me.

Oh wait he ALREADY is dead......

It's pretty much a figure of speech...how 'bout lifeless corpse?

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Ritzy_freak

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Alice Parker

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Ritzy_freak

Dude, I understand why I never liked him now!!! Thank you!!!

This only proves that your are Edward haters and your only using this to reason to bash him. I may not like Edward but I find this Discussion horrendously pointless.

You do know that you don't have to be here, right? confused

I have ever right. I can put in as many comments as I would like.

Okay then, what are your arguments? you have the floor, say what you will.

I don't want the floor i just like to post little comments here in there. I like to have my own Opinion in thing. Sorry if it bothers you.

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Minari

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Minari

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I'm sorry, but commiting sucide shows more devotion then giving a girls flowers. Not being abusive.

Actually, if you'd read the rebuttals, you would have seen it stated several times that telling someone you would die without them is a control tactic. We all know that Bella would never leave Edward, freak that she is, but if she did want to, could she do it knowing it would cause his death? Control Tactic Look! This is what it is! Imagine someone writes a book about someone committing suicide, and it leads someone to do so; things happen in books that authors didn't intend!

Edit to Clarify: Therefor, Edward and Bella can be in a relationship that would be abusive in real life, regardless of whether the author or the characters know it.

He said she could always leave him ...It's in the bloody book.

Just because he said it, doesn't mean it's the truth. Sheesh. Putting the two quotes together, it runs like this, "you can leave whenever you want, I'll just kill myself if you do."

Not really, if Bella left I'm pretty sure he'd be able to "live" Hes not that dependent on her. To be honest, His family would talk him out of it.....I mean hes not human and he dosen't really enjoy "living" Bella would just be an excuse to die.

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Minari

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Minari

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I'm sorry, but commiting sucide shows more devotion then giving a girls flowers. Not being abusive.

Actually, if you'd read the rebuttals, you would have seen it stated several times that telling someone you would die without them is a control tactic. We all know that Bella would never leave Edward, freak that she is, but if she did want to, could she do it knowing it would cause his death? Control Tactic Look! This is what it is! Imagine someone writes a book about someone committing suicide, and it leads someone to do so; things happen in books that authors didn't intend!

Edit to Clarify: Therefor, Edward and Bella can be in a relationship that would be abusive in real life, regardless of whether the author or the characters know it.

He said she could always leave him ...It's in the bloody book.

Just because he said it, doesn't mean it's the truth. Sheesh. Putting the two quotes together, it runs like this, "you can leave whenever you want, I'll just kill myself if you do."

i would just like to ask a question did he not say 'i would kill myself if you do' when he thought she was going to die not leave

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Alice Parker

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Hmmm.........Makes perfect sense if you have the ability to read, so maybe re-read it. Its just stating that

1)Edward is not human,hence stating human emotions to him are not correct.
2)Jacob is the possesive one ,not Edward
3)He has never raised a hand to her,nor has the author ever stated it...so where are you getting this information...please quote the book and not some made up insanity that means nothing.
4)Oh and trust me if your best friend was going out with your enemy you would be a bit up tight about it .

Ed tries to commit suicide when he thinks Bella is dead. Now I know it's not an actual quote but it's in New Moon. And Edward has said that when Bella dies he'll kill himself.

Thats what you call true love not abuse.

No, that's what *you* call true love. And I'd much rather have flowers than a dead body, but that's just me.

Oh wait he ALREADY is dead......

It's pretty much a figure of speech...how 'bout lifeless corpse?

Hmm.....That made me laugh...You remind me of my friend!

Well, its more like you all are applying human emotions and behaviors to a Vampire. Also, it is not the same, even it you want it to be... its not.

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Ritzy_freak

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Alice Parker

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Ritzy_freak

Dude, I understand why I never liked him now!!! Thank you!!!

This only proves that your are Edward haters and your only using this to reason to bash him. I may not like Edward but I find this Discussion horrendously pointless.

You do know that you don't have to be here, right? confused

I have ever right. I can put in as many comments as I would like.

Okay then, what are your arguments? you have the floor, say what you will.

I don't want the floor i just like to post little comments here in there. I like to have my own Opinion in thing. Sorry if it bothers you.

Oh no, by all means. I just wanted you to know that I'll listen to your arguments.

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Ritzy_freak

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Alice Parker

You do know that you don't have to be here, right? confused

I have ever right. I can put in as many comments as I would like.

Okay then, what are your arguments? you have the floor, say what you will.

I don't want the floor i just like to post little comments here in there. I like to have my own Opinion in thing. Sorry if it bothers you.

Oh no, by all means. I just wanted you to know that I'll listen to your arguments.

I believe she already stated them.