Edward Cullen - Abusive Boyfriend (Eclipse SPOILERS)

Your opinion?

I knew it all along.	61.8%	[ 1576 ]
Good points, but I'm not convinced.	15.4%	[ 393 ]
You're wrong, and I will post my rebuttal.	11.5%	[ 293 ]
But it's True Love!	11.4%	[ 290 ]
Total Votes:			[ 2552 ]

[The Thrill of Twilight]

Minari

Did you read the essay? The rebuttles? We have posted Very. Clear. reasons we think he's abusive.

Oh, but half of them you took out of context........Its like you read into something that never existed.

[Minari]

The Thrill of Twilight

Minari

Did you read the essay? The rebuttles? We have posted Very. Clear. reasons we think he's abusive.

Oh, but half of them you took out of context........Its like you read into something that never existed.

Only in a way. You're right that we read it in a way Ms. Meyer had not intended, but that way was critically. Are you seriously upset that we're paying attention? It's an abusive relationship, whether Ms. Meyer realises it or not!

[The Thrill of Twilight]

Alice Parker

Pink Colored Pencil

Your are using human relationship facts Honey let me tell you something Edward anit human. So let me tell you a thing or two about debating. Never give your opponent a chance to rebuttal.
I think you have never even read the books. Abusive no. There is only one jealous person in the whole book and that is Jacob. Now lets recall Jacob likes Bella, Bella does not like Jacob like that, therefore making Jacob mad (werewolf thing about it) and making him dangerous, there for that is a perfect reason for Edward to want Bella to stay away from him. . He 'wants' not ordering her to.Its like a older brother telling his sister she should not go out with a thug. WE MUST ALSO RECALL THAT HE LEAVES DURING THE FIRST HALF OF THE SECOND BOOK BUT IT IS BELLA WHO GOES CHASING AFTER EDWARD, NOT EDWARD AFTER BELLA. He is a Vampire. Its like having a your favorite candy sitting in front of you but your on a diet. I mean if she a abused she would not be with him.
I am going to state this as many people have said before Vampire and werewolf's are mortal enemies
and why are you debating over this topic anyway its pointless because you are never going to change the book and all the fandoms mind.

oh when your debating try to be fair

How do you know that if she was abused she would not be with him? Don't you know some reasons that women stay in abusive relationships are:

1.) Their partner promises to change.
2.) The think they're in love.
3.) Their partner says they'll die without them. Sounds like Ed. huh?

And if you're going to argue, please organize the content. I only got about half of what you said.

Hmmm.........Makes perfect sense if you have the ability to read, so maybe re-read it. Its just stating that

1)Edward is not human,hence stating human emotions to him are not correct.
2)Jacob is the possesive one ,not Edward
3)He has never raised a hand to her,nor has the author ever stated it...so where are you getting this information...please quote the book and not some made up insanity that means nothing.
4)Oh and trust me if your best friend was going out with your enemy you would be a bit up tight about it .

[Pink Colored Pencil]

Minari

Did you read the essay? The rebuttles? We have posted Very. Clear. reasons we think he's abusive.

Yes i did read the essay and rebuttals.(As much as i could stand to read)

I meant i don't see any abuse in their relationship. This may make sense to you but i see none at all. I want more facts and options from people who actually like Edward or maybe someone who is not against Edward but does not like Edward.

Yes i understand where you are coming from. I must admit i am impressed with your skills and how your presented your facts but, there is no abuse.

[The Thrill of Twilight]

Minari

The Thrill of Twilight

Minari

Did you read the essay? The rebuttles? We have posted Very. Clear. reasons we think he's abusive.

Oh, but half of them you took out of context........Its like you read into something that never existed.

Only in a way. You're right that we read it in a way Ms. Meyer had not intended, but that way was critically. Are you seriously upset that we're paying attention? It's an abusive relationship, whether Ms. Meyer realises it or not!

Its not paying attention....its more like your insanity is making itself known. This is a book. Please keep in mind....Vampire is a fear inspiring creature of folklore...............He is a "Monster". Not Human. No wonder their is fear!

[Alice Parker]

The Thrill of Twilight

Alice Parker

Pink Colored Pencil

Your are using human relationship facts Honey let me tell you something Edward anit human. So let me tell you a thing or two about debating. Never give your opponent a chance to rebuttal.
I think you have never even read the books. Abusive no. There is only one jealous person in the whole book and that is Jacob. Now lets recall Jacob likes Bella, Bella does not like Jacob like that, therefore making Jacob mad (werewolf thing about it) and making him dangerous, there for that is a perfect reason for Edward to want Bella to stay away from him. . He 'wants' not ordering her to.Its like a older brother telling his sister she should not go out with a thug. WE MUST ALSO RECALL THAT HE LEAVES DURING THE FIRST HALF OF THE SECOND BOOK BUT IT IS BELLA WHO GOES CHASING AFTER EDWARD, NOT EDWARD AFTER BELLA. He is a Vampire. Its like having a your favorite candy sitting in front of you but your on a diet. I mean if she a abused she would not be with him.
I am going to state this as many people have said before Vampire and werewolf's are mortal enemies
and why are you debating over this topic anyway its pointless because you are never going to change the book and all the fandoms mind.

oh when your debating try to be fair

How do you know that if she was abused she would not be with him? Don't you know some reasons that women stay in abusive relationships are:

1.) Their partner promises to change.
2.) The think they're in love.
3.) Their partner says they'll die without them. Sounds like Ed. huh?

And if you're going to argue, please organize the content. I only got about half of what you said.

Hmmm.........Makes perfect sense if you have the ability to read, so maybe re-read it. Its just stating that

1)Edward is not human,hence stating human emotions to him are not correct.
2)Jacob is the possesive one ,not Edward
3)He has never raised a hand to her,nor has the author ever stated it...so where are you getting this information...please quote the book and not some made up insanity that means nothing.
4)Oh and trust me if your best friend was going out with your enemy you would be a bit up tight about it .

Ed tries to commit suicide when he thinks Bella is dead. Now I know it's not an actual quote but it's in New Moon. And Edward has said that when Bella dies he'll kill himself.

[The Thrill of Twilight]

Alice Parker

The Thrill of Twilight

Alice Parker

Pink Colored Pencil

Your are using human relationship facts Honey let me tell you something Edward anit human. So let me tell you a thing or two about debating. Never give your opponent a chance to rebuttal.
I think you have never even read the books. Abusive no. There is only one jealous person in the whole book and that is Jacob. Now lets recall Jacob likes Bella, Bella does not like Jacob like that, therefore making Jacob mad (werewolf thing about it) and making him dangerous, there for that is a perfect reason for Edward to want Bella to stay away from him. . He 'wants' not ordering her to.Its like a older brother telling his sister she should not go out with a thug. WE MUST ALSO RECALL THAT HE LEAVES DURING THE FIRST HALF OF THE SECOND BOOK BUT IT IS BELLA WHO GOES CHASING AFTER EDWARD, NOT EDWARD AFTER BELLA. He is a Vampire. Its like having a your favorite candy sitting in front of you but your on a diet. I mean if she a abused she would not be with him.
I am going to state this as many people have said before Vampire and werewolf's are mortal enemies
and why are you debating over this topic anyway its pointless because you are never going to change the book and all the fandoms mind.

oh when your debating try to be fair

How do you know that if she was abused she would not be with him? Don't you know some reasons that women stay in abusive relationships are:

1.) Their partner promises to change.
2.) The think they're in love.
3.) Their partner says they'll die without them. Sounds like Ed. huh?

And if you're going to argue, please organize the content. I only got about half of what you said.

Hmmm.........Makes perfect sense if you have the ability to read, so maybe re-read it. Its just stating that

1)Edward is not human,hence stating human emotions to him are not correct.
2)Jacob is the possesive one ,not Edward
3)He has never raised a hand to her,nor has the author ever stated it...so where are you getting this information...please quote the book and not some made up insanity that means nothing.
4)Oh and trust me if your best friend was going out with your enemy you would be a bit up tight about it .

Ed tries to commit suicide when he thinks Bella is dead. Now I know it's not an actual quote but it's in New Moon. And Edward has said that when Bella dies he'll kill himself.

I'm sorry, but commiting sucide shows more devotion then giving a girls flowers. Not being abusive.

[Pink Colored Pencil]

Alice Parker

The Thrill of Twilight

Alice Parker

Pink Colored Pencil

Your are using human relationship facts Honey let me tell you something Edward anit human. So let me tell you a thing or two about debating. Never give your opponent a chance to rebuttal.
I think you have never even read the books. Abusive no. There is only one jealous person in the whole book and that is Jacob. Now lets recall Jacob likes Bella, Bella does not like Jacob like that, therefore making Jacob mad (werewolf thing about it) and making him dangerous, there for that is a perfect reason for Edward to want Bella to stay away from him. . He 'wants' not ordering her to.Its like a older brother telling his sister she should not go out with a thug. WE MUST ALSO RECALL THAT HE LEAVES DURING THE FIRST HALF OF THE SECOND BOOK BUT IT IS BELLA WHO GOES CHASING AFTER EDWARD, NOT EDWARD AFTER BELLA. He is a Vampire. Its like having a your favorite candy sitting in front of you but your on a diet. I mean if she a abused she would not be with him.
I am going to state this as many people have said before Vampire and werewolf's are mortal enemies
and why are you debating over this topic anyway its pointless because you are never going to change the book and all the fandoms mind.

oh when your debating try to be fair

How do you know that if she was abused she would not be with him? Don't you know some reasons that women stay in abusive relationships are:

1.) Their partner promises to change.
2.) The think they're in love.
3.) Their partner says they'll die without them. Sounds like Ed. huh?

And if you're going to argue, please organize the content. I only got about half of what you said.

Hmmm.........Makes perfect sense if you have the ability to read, so maybe re-read it. Its just stating that

1)Edward is not human,hence stating human emotions to him are not correct.
2)Jacob is the possesive one ,not Edward
3)He has never raised a hand to her,nor has the author ever stated it...so where are you getting this information...please quote the book and not some made up insanity that means nothing.
4)Oh and trust me if your best friend was going out with your enemy you would be a bit up tight about it .

Ed tries to commit suicide when he thinks Bella is dead. Now I know it's not an actual quote but it's in New Moon. And Edward has said that when Bella dies he'll kill himself.

Thats what you call true love not abuse.

[Ritzy_freak]

Dude, I understand why I never liked him now!!! Thank you!!!

[Minari]

The Thrill of Twilight

I'm sorry, but commiting sucide shows more devotion then giving a girls flowers. Not being abusive.

Actually, if you'd read the rebuttals, you would have seen it stated several times that telling someone you would die without them is a control tactic. We all know that Bella would never leave Edward, freak that she is, but if she did want to, could she do it knowing it would cause his death? Control Tactic Look! This is what it is! Imagine someone writes a book about someone committing suicide, and it leads someone to do so; things happen in books that authors didn't intend!

Edit to Clarify: Therefor, Edward and Bella can be in a relationship that would be abusive in real life, regardless of whether the author or the characters know it.

[Pink Colored Pencil]

Ritzy_freak

Dude, I understand why I never liked him now!!! Thank you!!!

This only proves that your are Edward haters and your only using this to reason to bash him. I may not like Edward but I find this Discussion horrendously pointless.

[Alice Parker]

Pink Colored Pencil

Alice Parker

The Thrill of Twilight

Alice Parker

Pink Colored Pencil

Your are using human relationship facts Honey let me tell you something Edward anit human. So let me tell you a thing or two about debating. Never give your opponent a chance to rebuttal.
I think you have never even read the books. Abusive no. There is only one jealous person in the whole book and that is Jacob. Now lets recall Jacob likes Bella, Bella does not like Jacob like that, therefore making Jacob mad (werewolf thing about it) and making him dangerous, there for that is a perfect reason for Edward to want Bella to stay away from him. . He 'wants' not ordering her to.Its like a older brother telling his sister she should not go out with a thug. WE MUST ALSO RECALL THAT HE LEAVES DURING THE FIRST HALF OF THE SECOND BOOK BUT IT IS BELLA WHO GOES CHASING AFTER EDWARD, NOT EDWARD AFTER BELLA. He is a Vampire. Its like having a your favorite candy sitting in front of you but your on a diet. I mean if she a abused she would not be with him.
I am going to state this as many people have said before Vampire and werewolf's are mortal enemies
and why are you debating over this topic anyway its pointless because you are never going to change the book and all the fandoms mind.

oh when your debating try to be fair

How do you know that if she was abused she would not be with him? Don't you know some reasons that women stay in abusive relationships are:

1.) Their partner promises to change.
2.) The think they're in love.
3.) Their partner says they'll die without them. Sounds like Ed. huh?

And if you're going to argue, please organize the content. I only got about half of what you said.

Hmmm.........Makes perfect sense if you have the ability to read, so maybe re-read it. Its just stating that

1)Edward is not human,hence stating human emotions to him are not correct.
2)Jacob is the possesive one ,not Edward
3)He has never raised a hand to her,nor has the author ever stated it...so where are you getting this information...please quote the book and not some made up insanity that means nothing.
4)Oh and trust me if your best friend was going out with your enemy you would be a bit up tight about it .

Ed tries to commit suicide when he thinks Bella is dead. Now I know it's not an actual quote but it's in New Moon. And Edward has said that when Bella dies he'll kill himself.

Thats what you call true love not abuse.

No, that's what *you* call true love. And I'd much rather have flowers than a dead body, but that's just me.

[Minari]

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Ritzy_freak

Dude, I understand why I never liked him now!!! Thank you!!!

This only proves that your are Edward haters and your only using this to reason to bash him. I may not like Edward but I find this Discussion horrendously pointless.

No it doesn't. It shows that we've said something that's clicked with someone else. Once again: something happened that the author didn't intend! Gosh!

Also, if you find the discussion pointless, then leave it for the people who do. All you've contributed is rehashed repititions of already posted arguements anyway.

[Alice Parker]

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Ritzy_freak

Dude, I understand why I never liked him now!!! Thank you!!!

This only proves that your are Edward haters and your only using this to reason to bash him. I may not like Edward but I find this Discussion horrendously pointless.

You do know that you don't have to be here, right? confused

[Pink Colored Pencil]

Minari

The Thrill of Twilight

I'm sorry, but commiting sucide shows more devotion then giving a girls flowers. Not being abusive.

Actually, if you'd read the rebuttals, you would have seen it stated several times that telling someone you would die without them is a control tactic. We all know that Bella would never leave Edward, freak that she is, but if she did want to, could she do it knowing it would cause his death? Control Tactic Look! This is what it is! Imagine someone writes a book about someone committing suicide, and it leads someone to do so; things happen in books that authors didn't intend!

Edit to Clarify: Therefor, Edward and Bella can be in a relationship that would be abusive in real life, regardless of whether the author or the characters know it.

But this is a vampire here. He thinks he will lose his soul or never go to heaven if he dies.

Your using human tendencies and he is not human as I stated before.