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Depends on the situation.
Although in the end I believe it's a womens choice whether she keeps, aborts or adopts out, it's only fair that father knows and that they talk about it like adults. It's not just "her body her choice" it's behaving like an adult so instead we'll go with 'act like ******** adult so that this relationship doesn't develop into a resentful hateful one that can cause both parties to mistrust the opposite sex and further instill sexual stereotypes and pushing gender based issues instead of human race based issues.' You can't make a decision for someone else without undermining their wishes. A child doesn't know better, but an adult, unless some how rendered unable to make sound decisions, does. So talking about what to do with your partner and coming to an agreement is how a relationship works.

There will always be cases when a women can't talk about it to the father, but where she believes that any would be better for her or the baby. It's her choice, we as humans need to respect that not everything is perfect, that the world isn't going to get better because you're a good person or because you want it to be.

You can say as often as you like, "everyone who is for abortion has been born" or that the baby could be anyone or do something important, you can sit smug in the idea that you're right. Or you can help, you can help make the world safer for women who want their babies but need an abortion. You can help give children and teenagers the education they need about sex and how to prevent getting pregnant or getting STDs. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure and there's no better source of prevention than proper education.

You can protest that abortion is wrong or you can help make a world where women don't have to have an abortion out of circumstance. Where the only abortion is because a women didn't want to be pregnant and have children. You can help there too, instead of hopping the next generation fixes things, you can come up the 100% condom. Instead of waiting why don't you cure aids, cancer, go to Mars? Find a safe way to counteract defects that would otherwise kill the baby and/or mommy. Adopt one of those children you wanted to live so badly.
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OMGYES! Another abortion thread where everyone can argue and never get anywhere! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!


lmao are you hyper or something?

That's called sarcasm. Doy. neutral

She's 13. What do you expect?

Hey now, there are plenty of thirteen year olds who know the meaning of sarcasm.

Yeah... but in context of everything else she's posted... I still wasn't particularly surprised. I feel like her age is obviously showing.

It's the spelling that tipped me off. And having to point out obvious sarcasm.
Is it me, or are most pro-lifers around that age?
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    Definitely pro-choice. After surviving a near-fatal wanted pregnancy, I can't imagine forcing someone through pregnancy and birth for a child they don't even want. I wanted my daughter and it was hard enough.

    Besides, I believe in the right to control what I do with my body. It is mine. Shouldn't I get a say?
Yeah i agree. Abortion is a choice!
♫ ~Oh yay~ ♫

Another abortion thread! I love it! ;D

I think any women at any age should be able to get an abortion at any time. Yes, you heard me, any time. Late term abortion do happen for goods reason.

Women should always have the choice of terminating there pregnancy for many reasons: if they cant handle the child/birthing the child mentally and/or psychically, if they were raped, if they cant afford the child, if the child will come out deformed of mentally retarded, or even if they don't want a child.

If I ever get pregnant I will abort. No if, ands, or buts about it. I could never handle a child in any way listed but mostly mentally. Yeah..

Gotta find my pokemon game now. I will reply to ever who quotes this. sorry if it's all jumbled kinda tired, morning yay~

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♫ ~Oh yay~ ♫

Another abortion thread! I love it! ;D

I think any women at any age should be able to get an abortion at any time. Yes, you heard me, any time. Late term abortion do happen for goods reason.

Women should always have the choice of terminating there pregnancy for many reasons: if they cant handle the child/birthing the child mentally and/or psychically, if they were raped, if they cant afford the child, if the child will come out deformed of mentally retarded, or even if they don't want a child.

If I ever get pregnant I will abort. No if, ands, or buts about it. I could never handle a child in any way listed but mostly mentally. Yeah..

Gotta find my pokemon game now. I will reply to ever who quotes this. sorry if it's all jumbled kinda tired, morning yay~



Really? Any time? I'm not criticizing you, but I'm genuinely interested your reasoning behind that. biggrin

*tries not to sound evil and stuff*
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♫ ~Oh yay~ ♫

Another abortion thread! I love it! ;D

I think any women at any age should be able to get an abortion at any time. Yes, you heard me, any time. Late term abortion do happen for goods reason.

Women should always have the choice of terminating there pregnancy for many reasons: if they cant handle the child/birthing the child mentally and/or psychically, if they were raped, if they cant afford the child, if the child will come out deformed of mentally retarded, or even if they don't want a child.

If I ever get pregnant I will abort. No if, ands, or buts about it. I could never handle a child in any way listed but mostly mentally. Yeah..

Gotta find my pokemon game now. I will reply to ever who quotes this. sorry if it's all jumbled kinda tired, morning yay~

I know right? Another one of these threads! But yes pro-choice all the way.
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To be honest with you abortion is murder wether you beleive it or not

No, it isn't. Murder is the intentional killing of a human being.
A developing fetus does not have the physical attributes to qualify it as a human being. Last time I checked, human beings had brains. rolleyes

Lisa knight


the baby is a living being..

So is a cow. Does that mean slaughtering animals for meat is murder?
Bacteria is living too. Does that mean washing your hands is murder?

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You should put yourself in the babies eyes and helpless form. I ask you this if you wer that developing baby would you want to live or die?

That developing fetus does not "want" anything. It has no sense of self yet, and does not have the brain function to make it capable of wanting anything.

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I'm highly postive nearly 95% of mothers agree with this even if 5% dont want to go thru with their pregnancie's.

Bullshit. Don't pull statistics out of your arse and claim that it's fact.

I'm a mother. I wanted my daughter. My husband and I planned and prepared for the baby for a long time... but I still respect another woman's right to control her own body.

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The baby is a living being wether its developing in our bodies or not its still a living human being.

No, it is not a living human being, because as I said before, it is completely anatomically different than a human being until much later in the pregnancy.

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I'm 100% against abortion.

Then don't have one.

You are perfectly within your rights to never have an abortion yourself, but you have absolutely no right to try to dictate to another human being what they should or shouldn't do with their own body.

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It's not right killing an inocent child cuz we wer raped by another guy that we dont like.

Wait... so not only do you know nothing about pregnancy, birth and human anatomy, you also know nothing about rape. It can be a truly harrowing, violent experience that some women never get over... not just some "guy that we don't like".
I assure you, if you were raped yourself, your opinion on this would change.

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Theirs places where you could put your child up for adoption if you dont want him/her.

Do you have any idea how many unwanted children there would be in the adoption system if nobody ever had abortions?
Millions.
Who would look after all those unwanted children? You?

Lisa knight


Killing an inocent child cuz we dont want them isn't right nor is murder.

You're right... luckily, a fetus isn't a child. It's a fetus.
Lisa knight


Don't make the mistake of killing an inocent baby that did nothing to deserve that horrible fate.

Whereas expecting a woman to endure nine months of pregnancy, birth and expecting her to risk her life in favour of a child she doesn't want isn't a horrible fate at all. rolleyes

I hate to break it to you, but women aren't baby-making machines. Shocking.


Don't get me wrong, motherhood can be a wonderful thing, but forcing it upon a woman that doesn't want it is just plain disgusting, and debases the experience.


to be honest with you i have been raped ive chosen to raise this child on my own with my friends.

my father and mother wanted me to have an abortion they tried to but i told them no cuz they think a 13 year old girl couldnt raise a child .

Gues who had tha last laugh on that?

ME i had the last laugh and for that they both hate me and my child i told them that if they dont want anything to do with us then thats fine with me, My friends parents are helping me support this child they gave me a job for me to earn money so i can support this child its not much but they still help me with food clothing and everything else i needed including medical bill expenses wich i am greatful for cuz this child is the best thing that happend to me.

i dont want every women to suffer from this im just saying that they should think clearly on their choices because so many women made a choice and they change their mind at the WORST moment. they should have a sit down with them talk out all the possible options the mother has for her child.

as i stated early yes i agree i am wrong on most of it.

except the ones you said i was right on.

my mind has been changed i am sorta supporting abortion now that i see what every one has told me but they should have a choice in this and have a sit down and talk out all possible outcomes inlcuding adoption.

as you said it would be the worst to make every women like me and you suffer from this.
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♫ ~Oh yay~ ♫

Another abortion thread! I love it! ;D

I think any women at any age should be able to get an abortion at any time. Yes, you heard me, any time. Late term abortion do happen for goods reason.

Women should always have the choice of terminating there pregnancy for many reasons: if they cant handle the child/birthing the child mentally and/or psychically, if they were raped, if they cant afford the child, if the child will come out deformed of mentally retarded, or even if they don't want a child.

If I ever get pregnant I will abort. No if, ands, or buts about it. I could never handle a child in any way listed but mostly mentally. Yeah..

Gotta find my pokemon game now. I will reply to ever who quotes this. sorry if it's all jumbled kinda tired, morning yay~



Really? Any time? I'm not criticizing you, but I'm genuinely interested your reasoning behind that. biggrin

*tries not to sound evil and stuff*
It's fine that your asking. I knew someone would.

If off I do find it wrong if a women carries the child all the way to the end and then wants an abortion, I'm talking about a healthy women with a healthy child. That I find wrong because she could of termantated it way before hand. But there are many times where late term abortion will save the women's health or where the baby dies inside the womb. I don't if that would be called abortion but there are many people who insist that the women still carry the dead baby till it's "born". There are also many times where they find a very deadly illness or that the child will die soon after birth. Why make the child live for a tiny bit so it can die, or even die painfully. That I find very mean.
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That's called sarcasm. Doy. neutral

She's 13. What do you expect?

Hey now, there are plenty of thirteen year olds who know the meaning of sarcasm.

Yeah... but in context of everything else she's posted... I still wasn't particularly surprised. I feel like her age is obviously showing.

It's the spelling that tipped me off. And having to point out obvious sarcasm.
Is it me, or are most pro-lifers around that age?

I think the ones that just shout ITS MURDER! are... people with more developed arguments seem to be older. I feel at that age they just regurgitate what their parents have told them.
Lisa Knight: I have been reading through the thread, and I am extremely good at telling when someone is telling the truth, even over the internet... and you are full of s**t.

Not only are you obviously way too immature to have a child, and you seem to know nothing about pregnancy or birth, but you also only claimed to have been raped and had a baby from it when someone called you out on your ignorant, closed-minded views on the subject.
It's obvious that you don't have a kid, and it's pretty pathetic to make up stories like that.

I call bullshit on your alleged rape and pregnancy.
Murder....in some cases. In most cases it's their own fault for getting pregnant, so they should accept their own responsibility instead of run from it.(What do you think condoms/birth control are for?) Everyone was a baby once, they have heartbeats, they grow, so how could you not call it murder? You're the one making the choice to kill him/her. And the people who get abortions when their months into their pregnancy thinking, 'hey I dont want this anymore for no reason', are sick and disgusting. (Most doctors dont do that but there are the select few, and their disgusting themselves.)
Other cases like rape or if your life is in serious danger, then that is way more understandable. Rape, you didn't ask for this to happen, had no control over the matter.
In other words, they really should just deal with what they created, and if they aren't financially stable or have other problems, put it up for adoption or something, or just DONT get pregnant in the first place. Because yes, 99% of the time you can avoid it if you use your head.
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Lisa Knight: I have been reading through the thread, and I am extremely good at telling when someone is telling the truth, even over the internet... and you are full of s**t.

Not only are you obviously way too immature to have a child, and you seem to know nothing about pregnancy or birth, but you also only claimed to have been raped and had a baby from it when someone called you out on your ignorant, closed-minded views on the subject.
It's obvious that you don't have a kid, and it's pretty pathetic to make up stories like that.

I call bullshit on your alleged rape and pregnancy.
AGREED! I call bullshit too. It is blantanly obvious.
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Murder....in some cases. In most cases it's their own fault for getting pregnant, so they should accept their own responsibility instead of run from it.(What do you think condoms/birth control are for?) Everyone was a baby once, they have heartbeats, they grow, so how could you not call it murder? You're the one making the choice to kill him/her. And the people who get abortions when their months into their pregnancy thinking, 'hey I dont want this anymore for no reason', are sick and disgusting.
Other cases like rape or if your life is in serious danger, then that is way more understandable. Rape, you didn't ask for this to happen, had no control over the matter.
In other words, they really should just deal with what they created, and if they aren't financially stable or have other problems, put it up for adoption or something, or just DONT get pregnant in the first place. Because yes, 99% of the time you can avoid it if you use your head.
Has is it murder in some cases? How is a rape child any less then a wanted child? They are being responsible by getting an abortion just as people are being responsible for putting it up for adoption or giving birth. And what do you mean people think "Hey I don't want this any more for no reason." What are you saying the don't have a reason and there just abortion for the fun of it? People have there reason to abort, keep, or to give the child up. Also for many people adoption is something they will highly regret, like myself. I could never put it up for adoption, it makes all the others have a less chance of getting a nice home and the child could have a horrible time being shuffled around foster homes. Foster homes arnt always happy go go times. Oh! And many people who do get an abortion were using one or more forms of birth control so alot of them are being responsible by trying to prevent it from happen. If I ever get pregnant I am abortion, no hesitation.

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