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SummonMoreZiggurats
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In 100% seriousness, my English teach made me pro-choice. Total b***h. Abortion helps prevent people like her from reproducing.


That's a rather ignoble reason for your stance.


Yeah.
We should take measures to prevent rape and allow birth control to be supplied much more openly.
Pro-choice and had an abortion earlier this year.
Happy I did.
II Esoteric II
We should take measures to prevent rape and allow birth control to be supplied much more openly.


Birth control can be done. It's about whether politicians have the spine to do so.

Preventing rape? Not really. The closest thing to preventing a lot of criminal acts is to simply care for our people. For instance, mental health is not considered an important health factor commonly enough. Then they wonder why we have such ******** up people. The biggest solution simply is as a country, or hell, as a world, is to take better care of our people.

If people are really against abortion BTW, I think it's fair to ask for their help and support in distribution of birth control, ideologies aside. The important thing is to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place, then we get into the details of abortion. Telling people just not to do it isn't going to work and never has.
Lisa knight
Phantom Llama
Discuss why you agree and why you don't. Also try to be open minded towards other peoples opinions. D< Abortion is not murder, btw.









Pro-Choice ftw heart



To be honest with you abortion is murder wether you beleive it or not
the baby is a living being..

You should put yourself in the babies eyes and helpless form. I ask you this if you wer that developing baby would you want to live or die?

I'm highly postive nearly 95% of mothers agree with this even if 5% dont want to go thru with their pregnancie's.

The baby is a living being wether its developing in our bodies or not its still a living human being.

I'm 100% against abortion.

It's not right killing an inocent child cuz we wer raped by another guy that we dont like.

Theirs places where you could put your child up for adoption if you dont want him/her.

Killing an inocent child cuz we dont want them isn't right nor is murder.

Don't make the mistake of killing an inocent baby that did nothing to deserve that horrible fate.
fetus=/= baby. abortion is NOT murder. that's a fact, not my opinion. go open a science/law book sometime.
Seranaiko
fetus=/= baby. abortion is NOT murder. that's a fact, not my opinion. go open a science/law book sometime.


The thing is, a lot of these people have an ongoing vendetta against science, therefor don't really take the time to understand it. Facts have never been important in their case, they rely entirely on their emotions, and don't take kindly to a lot of the actual information. I think either full emotion or full logic in this situation is flawed in its very concept. There should always be a proper balance between the two to take care of each side's considerations.
SummonMoreZiggurats
Seranaiko
fetus=/= baby. abortion is NOT murder. that's a fact, not my opinion. go open a science/law book sometime.


The thing is, a lot of these people have an ongoing vendetta against science, therefor don't really take the time to understand it. Facts have never been important in their case, they rely entirely on their emotions, and don't take kindly to a lot of the actual information. I think either full emotion or full logic in this situation is flawed in its very concept. There should always be a proper balance between the two to take care of each side's considerations.
yeah, I know. it just pisses me off that they say "abortion is killing a baby, that's a fact no matter what you say," when that's completely untrue. I just have to wonder how you can be so strong in a conviction that's totally wrong.
Seranaiko
SummonMoreZiggurats
Seranaiko
fetus=/= baby. abortion is NOT murder. that's a fact, not my opinion. go open a science/law book sometime.


The thing is, a lot of these people have an ongoing vendetta against science, therefor don't really take the time to understand it. Facts have never been important in their case, they rely entirely on their emotions, and don't take kindly to a lot of the actual information. I think either full emotion or full logic in this situation is flawed in its very concept. There should always be a proper balance between the two to take care of each side's considerations.
yeah, I know. it just pisses me off that they say "abortion is killing a baby, that's a fact no matter what you say," when that's completely untrue. I just have to wonder how you can be so strong in a conviction that's totally wrong.


Exactly.. more than anything it's the circular "I'm right, because I'm right" logic that bothers me. It's messed up. And really.. it's important to help these women out. It's easy to talk the talk as an observer, but most of these people haven't lived it. And even if some have.. every individual is a separate case. We don't want to ruin lives here.
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Seranaiko
SummonMoreZiggurats
Seranaiko
fetus=/= baby. abortion is NOT murder. that's a fact, not my opinion. go open a science/law book sometime.


The thing is, a lot of these people have an ongoing vendetta against science, therefor don't really take the time to understand it. Facts have never been important in their case, they rely entirely on their emotions, and don't take kindly to a lot of the actual information. I think either full emotion or full logic in this situation is flawed in its very concept. There should always be a proper balance between the two to take care of each side's considerations.
yeah, I know. it just pisses me off that they say "abortion is killing a baby, that's a fact no matter what you say," when that's completely untrue. I just have to wonder how you can be so strong in a conviction that's totally wrong.

completely off topic, butt I love that puppy x3 it's sooo cute :3
Ok, now off I go, to somewhere that's not this topic :3
Wow this is still going. o_o; Wowwwww.

Not sure how long I'll be here for. My family might kidnap me to the mall or something. :/ Ciaoish. X3
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Seranaiko
Lisa knight
Phantom Llama
Discuss why you agree and why you don't. Also try to be open minded towards other peoples opinions. D< Abortion is not murder, btw.









Pro-Choice ftw heart



To be honest with you abortion is murder wether you beleive it or not
the baby is a living being..

You should put yourself in the babies eyes and helpless form. I ask you this if you wer that developing baby would you want to live or die?

I'm highly postive nearly 95% of mothers agree with this even if 5% dont want to go thru with their pregnancie's.

The baby is a living being wether its developing in our bodies or not its still a living human being.

I'm 100% against abortion.

It's not right killing an inocent child cuz we wer raped by another guy that we dont like.

Theirs places where you could put your child up for adoption if you dont want him/her.

Killing an inocent child cuz we dont want them isn't right nor is murder.

Don't make the mistake of killing an inocent baby that did nothing to deserve that horrible fate.
fetus=/= baby. abortion is NOT murder. that's a fact, not my opinion. go open a science/law book sometime.


Don't even bother with this girl. The whole time she was here earlier today, she lied about being raped, giving birth to the daughter that spawned from the alleged rape, how she "chose" to keep a baby at 12 years old and NOT get the abortion her parents were trying to "force her into getting" (being 12, her parents would be the one in control of that decision by law), and how she is suddenly living with friends and her friends parents take care of her and the child...when social services would definitely be involved. *deep breath* That's not all, but...w/e. lol. Also, apparently her parents were legally able to kick out a 12 year old with a baby. talk2hand
All the mothers that are harassing Lisa Knight. You really should be ashamed of yourselves. You have children of your own, but still your picking on a child over the internet, take a look at yourselves. Mothers are supposed to be mature and look out for children, whether they are naughty or not. You seem really immature yourselves.
My life.
My body.
My eggs.
My uterus.
My choice.
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All the mothers that are harassing Lisa Knight. You really should be ashamed of yourselves. You have children of your own, but still your picking on a child over the internet, take a look at yourselves. Mothers are supposed to be mature and look out for children, whether they are naughty or not. You seem really immature yourselves.


I'd feel bad about it, but I actually know someone who was raped and molested as a child, and ended up pregnant and going through with an abortion. (The circumstances were a lot more complicated and it's really not my place to be going into detail about it all) And the event had a very traumatic, painful, lasting effect on her, and whether this girl is actually 13 or not it's a terrible thing to lie about. Especially when the subject matter is something so serious.

But you must also look at the fact that she came into a discussion about something very mature and serious with a very immature and close-minded attitude. It's her own fault and in a way it will help her grow. I know damn well when I was 13, and going into things like this (and yes, I made up stories and got called out on it) that I learned from the experience and realized that I was being quite an idiot.
Scarred Secrets
Seranaiko
Lisa knight
Phantom Llama
Discuss why you agree and why you don't. Also try to be open minded towards other peoples opinions. D< Abortion is not murder, btw.









Pro-Choice ftw heart



To be honest with you abortion is murder wether you beleive it or not
the baby is a living being..

You should put yourself in the babies eyes and helpless form. I ask you this if you wer that developing baby would you want to live or die?

I'm highly postive nearly 95% of mothers agree with this even if 5% dont want to go thru with their pregnancie's.

The baby is a living being wether its developing in our bodies or not its still a living human being.

I'm 100% against abortion.

It's not right killing an inocent child cuz we wer raped by another guy that we dont like.

Theirs places where you could put your child up for adoption if you dont want him/her.

Killing an inocent child cuz we dont want them isn't right nor is murder.

Don't make the mistake of killing an inocent baby that did nothing to deserve that horrible fate.
fetus=/= baby. abortion is NOT murder. that's a fact, not my opinion. go open a science/law book sometime.


Don't even bother with this girl. The whole time she was here earlier today, she lied about being raped, giving birth to the daughter that spawned from the alleged rape, how she "chose" to keep a baby at 12 years old and NOT get the abortion her parents were trying to "force her into getting" (being 12, her parents would be the one in control of that decision by law), and how she is suddenly living with friends and her friends parents take care of her and the child...when social services would definitely be involved. *deep breath* That's not all, but...w/e. lol. Also, apparently her parents were legally able to kick out a 12 year old with a baby. talk2hand


serriously why dont all look at my profile you all over looked what i had posted about my child. im 13 not 12 get it straight dumbass. and legally they dont have the right to make my decisions they did far more worse things to me that they both got arrested for my friend and her parent's that i am living with adopted me so legally they my reall parents lost custody due to this so why dont you all head to my profile that you all over looked when i did mention my child you all over looked it so dont judge me.

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