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Lisa Knight, I actually hope you're lying about having been raped, as much as that would be a low and terrible thing to lie about, since rape is horrific, even without unwanted pregnancy. I hope that, if you are telling the truth, that whatever legal procedings are underway go well, and that you continue seeing a therapist, if not the one who spoke with you when you delivered your child (whenever that was, since you haven't said when, I'm assuming it was recently.)

However, please remember that it was your choice to carry to term, and then to keep your little boy/girl. Saying all women must go through what you went through is just as much violating their freedom as it would be if your mother had successfully forced you to abort.

ETA: You still haven't apollogized for what you said earlier, though. That's not cool or helping you with the keeping the higher ground.
Ladybird Sauce
Lisa knight
Screaming Wombat
I'm pro-rationality.

By that, I mean a woman has every right to have an abortion if she's gone through some tough times.
But hell, there are some folks, they seem to change their mind at the WORST possible time, as in the last minute. Then there are people who seem to think that the emotions evoked by abortion are kinda funny. I don't believe abortion is murder, but it's pretty damn close, close enough that it should be reasonably expected to see some peopled get riled up about it. So yeah, even if you are pro-choice, don't kick your neighbor's dog.


yes i agree with this but they should have a sit down with the mothers and explain all possible options and explain what lethal and non lethal ways they can do for the mother. their are places that can put their child up for adoption if they dont want them.

i was raped but my mother on the other hand wanted me to abort the child and i didnt want to and she and my father tried to force me to have an abortion cuz they thought a 13 year old girl couldnt handle raising a child and bring them into this world.guess who was the one that had the last laugh? if you guessed me you be 100% correct my father and mother both hate me so i told them that they dont have the right to see me or my child.i moved all my stuff out of that house and moved in with my closest friends that wer a few blocks away from where my
a--hole parent's tossed me out basicly. im happy with my little girl and that brought joy into my life and im glad.

So, at 13 how exactly are you affording to live with friends and raise a child?


It's actually illegal to have sex at the age of 13.
crimson bloodlion
If you know that having the thing is going to kill YOU would you abort?((no i wouldnt id let it kill me ))
Or if having the kid puts you and your family on the streets? (Especially when kids already born are involved. It would be pretty selfish to not consider their well being just to have another and not be able to care for them all.)we'll pull though even if it s puttin on on the streets
How about in cases of rape?if i was the raper id take care of the baby
Or if you are Tokophobic(fear of pregnancy and childbirth)? People who are tokophobic rather commit suicide than be pregnant. fear is fear get over the fear
What if they are mentally unstable? Or finacally unstable (the prenatal and birthing process costs between $6,000 and $10,000)?ever though about talking to people about halping you like there is plenty of child funds for free you konw


Can somebody please throw him his squeaky toy?
please excuse all my oul lnaguage i alologize all im trying ot say is abortion is wrong if you didnt have sex in the first place it wouldnt happen and its a being whether you like it or not there im done
dhayzi
Lisa knight
volley15
Wuthering
Lisa Knight: I have been reading through the thread, and I am extremely good at telling when someone is telling the truth, even over the internet... and you are full of s**t.

Not only are you obviously way too immature to have a child, and you seem to know nothing about pregnancy or birth, but you also only claimed to have been raped and had a baby from it when someone called you out on your ignorant, closed-minded views on the subject.
It's obvious that you don't have a kid, and it's pretty pathetic to make up stories like that.

I call bullshit on your alleged rape and pregnancy.
AGREED! I call bullshit too. It is blantanly obvious.


do you both live with me ?
do you both know what ive been thru how many friends and familt have turned their backs on me?

MORE than you know.

you both dont live with me you both dont know my pain you both dont know me.
so you both should turn your own accusations on your own family's not me.

i do have a child and i was raped so wether or not you beleive me or not thats your choice i dont really give a damn about what you both think.
people like you gang up on people who are younger and always assume those people are immature the true immature ones i see are you both.

so turn arround and look in the mirrior and look back on all the accusations you both made on others who havent down a damn thing to deserve something like this.

yea i am pissed cuz you botth acused me of making up a story and lying about me being raped well heres a news flash for you both
YOU DONT KNOW ME SO JUDGE THE PEOPLE YOU KNOW IN REAL LIFE NOT ONLINE.


Then why does it say in your profile that you love your family so much?


because my siblings my daughter are my family i love them greatly.
i wouldn't lie about any of this .and i fail to see why this is your concerns because the truth is its really none of your business.
SummonMoreZiggurats
crimson bloodlion
SummonMoreZiggurats
crimson bloodlion
ok its matter that will grow faster and faster


So is fungus

no its a child
and if you abort so your life can be easier
your right out selfish


LOL. Look, I know you're not a bright kid, but come on. You said that it's matter that grows faster and faster. I simply said that fungus is matter that grows faster and faster as well. That's all I said. Plus, you're just repeating the same emotional/inaccurate/illogical line over and over again. Fail argument, I'm sorry.

And on a side note, matter doesn't actually grow, matter's recycled. But that's a different story.


You're right, she's actually really smart for her age.
crimson bloodlion
If you know that having the thing is going to kill YOU would you abort?((no i wouldnt id let it kill me ))
Or if having the kid puts you and your family on the streets? (Especially when kids already born are involved. It would be pretty selfish to not consider their well being just to have another and not be able to care for them all.)we'll pull though even if it s puttin on on the streets
How about in cases of rape?if i was the raper id take care of the baby
Or if you are Tokophobic(fear of pregnancy and childbirth)? People who are tokophobic rather commit suicide than be pregnant. fear is fear get over the fear
What if they are mentally unstable? Or finacally unstable (the prenatal and birthing process costs between $6,000 and $10,000)?ever though about talking to people about halping you like there is plenty of child funds for free you konw
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Dude! Learn to organize your post!

1. Okay so then you get killed the the child has one less of a parent figurer. Great.
2. So your saying you'd have the kid even if it meant putting it on the streets? Sick.
3.If you were the raper? What the heck dude. How many rapist go and do "Oh I'm gunna rape you now but if you get pregnant I'll take care of the kid." ... talk2hand
4. Many people can't get over that fear. easier said then done.
5. Not all people cant get help.
crimson bloodlion
please excuse all my oul lnaguage i alologize all im trying ot say is abortion is wrong if you didnt have sex in the first place it wouldnt happen and its a being whether you like it or not there im done


Here boy! You want a treat?! You wanna go outside?! mrgreen
Lisa knight
~[ Jaune Poison]~
Definitely pro-choice.
If there is a situation where someone doesn't want their baby, it is most likely for a legit reason like being too young or not being in the right environment.
I can't understand why people would want to force a baby into existence where it wouldn't be able to live in correct conditions with it's parents.

i have to disagree with you on this.
killing an inocent baby is technically murder its a living human being that is developing in the mothers womb killing the baby isnt right.
their are places that we can put our child up for adoption where they will live happy and peaceful lives.

i ask you this if you wer a developing baby in your mothers womb would you want to live or die?

im sure you would want to live then die putting an inocent baby to death by any form of lethel injection or what not isnt right.


I see where you're getting in this.
SummonMoreZiggurats
crimson bloodlion
please excuse all my oul lnaguage i alologize all im trying ot say is abortion is wrong if you didnt have sex in the first place it wouldnt happen and its a being whether you like it or not there im done


Here boy! You want a treat?! You wanna go outside?! mrgreen

grabs treat ''thank you kind sir ''
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I honestly think the original poster is lying.
Whats your kids name? What did she weigh at birth? Pictures? PROOF.
I'm very pro-choice.
If you don't like abortions, great! DON'T HAVE ONE!
It's as simple as that. Stop trying to shove your beliefs down everyones throats.
Sure, there are child funds from the government but they don't pay for everything! And that doesn't even include the lack of sleep, emotional trauma, and such.
Edit: Abortion is NOT murder!

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Pro-choice, but i believe there should be certain protocols before getting an abortion like: if you were raped then you have all the right to an abortion because it wasn't your choice to get pregnant but if the individual gets pregnant due to the lack of common sense and not using protection that is all on them.
Dark_-_Rose
SummonMoreZiggurats
crimson bloodlion
SummonMoreZiggurats
crimson bloodlion
ok its matter that will grow faster and faster


So is fungus

no its a child
and if you abort so your life can be easier
your right out selfish


LOL. Look, I know you're not a bright kid, but come on. You said that it's matter that grows faster and faster. I simply said that fungus is matter that grows faster and faster as well. That's all I said. Plus, you're just repeating the same emotional/inaccurate/illogical line over and over again. Fail argument, I'm sorry.

And on a side note, matter doesn't actually grow, matter's recycled. But that's a different story.


You're right, she's actually really smart for her age.


LOL

You've made two huge errors. Find them and get back to me.
Pro responsible choice
All pregnancies are dangerous. Not all women can have the baby safely. Yeah-yeah adoption is a great option but what about prenatal care? Not everyone have the wonderful option of bed rest, some of us have to work to survive! Not all women can carry babies. I've had a miscarriage, it's the worst thing in the world...Did I murder my baby? I didn't even know I was pregnant until right before it happened. I did activities that might have killed the fetus, does that make me a murderer? No. Does a young, scared, girl who doesn't have the money to buy prenatal vitamins, take time off of work, and doesn't have a safe home, mean that if she chooses abortion shes a bad person or a murderer? No. The best option for her was abortion.
Lisa knight
dhayzi
Lisa knight
volley15
Wuthering
Lisa Knight: I have been reading through the thread, and I am extremely good at telling when someone is telling the truth, even over the internet... and you are full of s**t.

Not only are you obviously way too immature to have a child, and you seem to know nothing about pregnancy or birth, but you also only claimed to have been raped and had a baby from it when someone called you out on your ignorant, closed-minded views on the subject.
It's obvious that you don't have a kid, and it's pretty pathetic to make up stories like that.

I call bullshit on your alleged rape and pregnancy.
AGREED! I call bullshit too. It is blantanly obvious.


do you both live with me ?
do you both know what ive been thru how many friends and familt have turned their backs on me?

MORE than you know.

you both dont live with me you both dont know my pain you both dont know me.
so you both should turn your own accusations on your own family's not me.

i do have a child and i was raped so wether or not you beleive me or not thats your choice i dont really give a damn about what you both think.
people like you gang up on people who are younger and always assume those people are immature the true immature ones i see are you both.

so turn arround and look in the mirrior and look back on all the accusations you both made on others who havent down a damn thing to deserve something like this.

yea i am pissed cuz you botth acused me of making up a story and lying about me being raped well heres a news flash for you both
YOU DONT KNOW ME SO JUDGE THE PEOPLE YOU KNOW IN REAL LIFE NOT ONLINE.


Then why does it say in your profile that you love your family so much?


because my siblings my daughter are my family i love them greatly.
i wouldn't lie about any of this .and i fail to see why this is your concerns because the truth is its really none of your business.


AND you just switched your profile to private after dhayzi's post.

So.. you're a liar. And a ******** disgrace as a human being for lying about that, ESPECIALLY for all the women who really have been raped and had to live with the aftermath. You're absolute scum for that.

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