When you see somebody with coloured hair...

Do you approve of colouring your hair unnatural colours?

Hell to the yes!	69.4%	[ 68 ]
My school/workplace won't let me... But I would if I could!	13.3%	[ 13 ]
Not really...	14.3%	[ 14 ]
NO. >:C	3.1%	[ 3 ]
Total Votes:			[ 98 ]

[glitch in space]

It ain't that deep. I dyed my hair because I like it that way. Not for mass appeal, the opposite sex, or to look like i belong in specific subculture. I just feel more confident and pretty with my unnatural hair colors. And that's just me. I'm not all crazy with my clothes though. Just my hair.

I mean, yeah I've met a few people who've dyed their hair for those reasons stated, but who cares? What people choose to do with their own hair does not affect you in any way. Even if its badly done or not well-maintained. People have their own reasons and its so menial and childish to sit around and judge people for their hair choices. Even saying that just sounds so stupid.

[LUX AURUMQU3]

Kyra Valdire

LUX AURUMQU3

Kyra Valdire

LUX AURUMQU3

Kyra Valdire

You don't need to be studying a field to introspect, and dig deeper into your memories to discover the whys about yourself. You mention wanting to do something different with your hair, and earlier you've mentioned piercings, are you trying to mark yourself as unique, an individual? Or did you mean something different from the way you'd been doing your hair, and not mean your statement to include the nearby society at all?

At this point, you're really just playing Devil's Advocate.
I can't tell you exactly why I like bright colours, because simply saying they appeal to me and make me happy isn't good enough for you, and honestly, there isn't anything past that.
I don't do anything to make me "unique" or and "individual," because let's face it, it's pretty much impossible.
I'm not the only one in the world to put a couple chunks of deep purple in my hair, I'm not the only one with double nostrils and a septum piercing, I'm not the only one with tattoos on my body.
It's never been about being "different" from everyone else, it's about doing what makes me feel good about myself.
What I do to my appearance is 100% for me, not for friends, not for society, not for anyone else.

Geez, that post almost sounded depressed. That's not what I'm aiming to accomplish here, nor am I playing devil's advocate (not really advocating anything at this point, just trying to understand something). If you ever do figure out why you like it, you may be surprised by the answer. I'm going to leave you alone now, sorry if I caused offense.

I stated why I like it, and you kept asking why, like each answer wasn't good enough, thus why I called Devil's Advocate.
I like bright colours, they make me happy, and seeing a bit of it in my hair makes me happy because I like my appearance with it.
There really isn't anything past that.
I'm not quite sure how it's depressing that the ways I choose to express myself are based upon what makes me happy with my appearance and not based upon what others think.

Devil's Advocate is when somebody is supporting a position they don't believe to see how another viewpoint (or theory or idea or w/e) holds up against it. Not sure if we're on the same page.
Bright colors have a vibrant, strong feel to them, so you could simply be taking encouragement and energy from your hair when you see it, which would be a primary reinforcer.
I didn't say your hair dye was depressing, I said your post sounded depressed, via word choice and tone and such, like I'd offended you, hence my apology.

Sorry, I must have mixed up the term Devil's Advocate with something else then, can't think of it at the moment.
I love bright colours, I think they're pretty and fun, and I like them in my hair.
I wasn't offended, I was simply defending my position and making it fully clear that my appearance choices are truly about me and no one else.
Example, my mother HATES my stretched ears and always used to tell me I'd regret it when I got married, and while she's come to accept that I'm keeping them around, she occasionally still says it.
I don't care what she thinks about them, because I'm happy with myself when my ears are stretched.
And little does she know that for quite some time I've been searching for the perfect pair of plugs for when I do eventually get married.

[Jagger-Wolf]

Kyra Valdire

Hmmm. Don't worry about it, lets see:
Black jeans: not skinny- only wear those when my outfit is blatantly Satyricon/Motley Crue-esque. These are just a normal pair (actually they're South Pole, which I see a lot of black guys wearing, so I could be stereotyped into that group, except they're actually at my waist and I'm about as white as it gets.

Celtic Buckle: Actually, the knots aren't purely Celt (which is Scottish as well as Irish, amongst others) but have been seen in Scandinavian art as well. Yes, those are my cultures, and I'm not throwing it in anyones face so much as advertising it. I think it would be the coolest thing if America went through a cultural revival, or started developing culture of its own. (Whenever I tell people this, they tend to assume I'm racist or something, but most of the remnants of culture descend from our times as pagans, and that point in history, though at different times for different peoples, was mostly equal.)

Guitar Pick: I do play, and I play very well, and I've been seen playing in different classrooms, so people know I play. It's actually a cool necklace: extra proud of it since I made it myself. Kept taking forever, trying to find my pick in my wallet, and this solved that problem neatly. smile

Oh, forgot to mention I also had a studded silver belt as well, didn't even notice it. Llike I said though, I've never been stereotyped to my face (except when somebody walked up to me and said "black metal?" -but that was exactly what I was going for anyway.) This is interesting me. Today I'm wearing the same jeans, same two belts, same boots, but with a Nirvana shirt, and a black leather wristband that goes up most of my forarm.

So there you go. Just because someone wears one or two things that COULD attach them to a certain subculture or mentality, doesn't mean they actually DO belong to that subculture.

Just because you have colored hair doesn't mean anything more than: you have colored hair. Same thing with wearing black, wearing certain styles of clothes, wearing your hair a certain way, wearing certain jewelry, or anything else.

There is no point in trying to categorize people. I know it's human nature to do so, but people don't HAVE to do it. I try to not, myself.

[La Chocolate Bliss]

Depends, really. Some people it looks really good with, others not.

[The Spellslinger]

LUX AURUMQU3

Kyra Valdire

LUX AURUMQU3

Kyra Valdire

LUX AURUMQU3

Kyra Valdire

Ok, but why do you find it aesthetically pleasing then? Why do you find an unnatural (couldn't think of a less negatively charged word, although I did try) hair color, to be better than a more usual one? Did your favorite bands model this behavoir? Do your friends have similar styles? Where'd you pick it up?
There are reasons that people like things, it's not a mystical force acting on your mind for no reason whatsoever.

For one, I don't think unnatural colours are better than natural ones, I prefer a pop of colour in a mostly natural coloured head of hair.
I like it because it's a bright pop of colour, and it makes me happy.
I can't give you the exact neurological and psychological science behind why I like colours, particularly bright ones, because that's not my field of study.

I don't remember where exactly I first saw it, all I can really remember is talking with a friend in the beginning of our junior year and deciding we wanted to do something different with our hair.
At the time, blue was my favourite colour, so I lightened the tips and made them a deep bright blue, while she put hot pink in her hair.
I don't recall anyone in my high school having unnatural coloured hair, or at least no one I saw, and I saw most people on a daily basis due to working in the cafeteria for all of high school.
It was only myself and one friend who put these colours in our hair, none of our other friends were interested in it for themselves.
Nowadays, I listen to a number of bands that are alternative styled and their fans typically have unnatural coloured hair.
Back then, I listened to a lot of bands like Sum 41 and Three Days Grace but never really went to big concerts until after I graduated high school, and those bands didn't colour their hair unnaturally so I doubt they were the influence.
I can't tell you what exactly made me do it, or why I wanted to.
All I can tell you is that I like it.

You don't need to be studying a field to introspect, and dig deeper into your memories to discover the whys about yourself. You mention wanting to do something different with your hair, and earlier you've mentioned piercings, are you trying to mark yourself as unique, an individual? Or did you mean something different from the way you'd been doing your hair, and not mean your statement to include the nearby society at all?

At this point, you're really just playing Devil's Advocate.
I can't tell you exactly why I like bright colours, because simply saying they appeal to me and make me happy isn't good enough for you, and honestly, there isn't anything past that.
I don't do anything to make me "unique" or and "individual," because let's face it, it's pretty much impossible.
I'm not the only one in the world to put a couple chunks of deep purple in my hair, I'm not the only one with double nostrils and a septum piercing, I'm not the only one with tattoos on my body.
It's never been about being "different" from everyone else, it's about doing what makes me feel good about myself.
What I do to my appearance is 100% for me, not for friends, not for society, not for anyone else.

Geez, that post almost sounded depressed. That's not what I'm aiming to accomplish here, nor am I playing devil's advocate (not really advocating anything at this point, just trying to understand something). If you ever do figure out why you like it, you may be surprised by the answer. I'm going to leave you alone now, sorry if I caused offense.

I stated why I like it, and you kept asking why, like each answer wasn't good enough, thus why I called Devil's Advocate.
I like bright colours, they make me happy, and seeing a bit of it in my hair makes me happy because I like my appearance with it.
There really isn't anything past that.
I'm not quite sure how it's depressing that the ways I choose to express myself are based upon what makes me happy with my appearance and not based upon what others think.

Devil's Advocate is when somebody is supporting a position they don't believe to see how another viewpoint (or theory or idea or w/e) holds up against it. Not sure if we're on the same page.
Bright colors have a vibrant, strong feel to them, so you could simply be taking encouragement and energy from your hair when you see it, which would be a primary reinforcer.
I didn't say your hair dye was depressing, I said your post sounded depressed, via word choice and tone and such, like I'd offended you, hence my apology.

[The Spellslinger]

Tuberculasers

Kyra Valdire

Tuberculasers

Kyra Valdire

LUX AURUMQU3

Kyra Valdire

So why do you like it then?

Why do people like anything?
I happen to find it aesthetically pleasing, and not because of any group of people or whatever trend.
I've had various unnatural colours in my hair since I was 16, and I still enjoy it almost 6 years later, same as my love of piercings and stretched lobes.

Ok, but why do you find it aesthetically pleasing then? Why do you find an unnatural (couldn't think of a less negatively charged word, although I did try) hair color, to be better than a more usual one? Did your favorite bands model this behavoir? Do your friends have similar styles? Where'd you pick it up?
There are reasons that people like things, it's not a mystical force acting on your mind for no reason whatsoever.

Just gonna answer a few of your questions here myself. Out of nowhere.
I really find pastel colours aesthetically pleasing. I think they're fun, cute, and a lot more subtle. I don't think any pastel colours are better than natural ones or vise versa. I don't think any colours are better than any other colours in general, there's only what's right for you and what's not. I personally don't like dark browns/blacks because they look really bad on me. But that doesn't make them bad colours.

I listen to a lot of rap. My style and musical taste are VERY different things. My favourite female artist looks like this, and all of my friends have very clean cut, simple looks, the farthest any of them will go with their hair is highlights.

It really is just as simple as a "mythical force". You come across a hair style, or colour, or article of clothing or anything and think "Hey, I like that" and then you like it. You don't need 20 years of a background check to see where your childhood somehow went wrong or something and this event over here merged with that event over there and they collided with event #3 that pushed you in this direction of wanting to dye your hair green.

"I like that" is not a reason for liking that, and there's always a reason. I'm not saying anything went wrong either- that's much more Freudian (and potentially offensive) than I'm trying to be, but I am saying that things don't happen arbitrarily. You've already come up with a reason: you think it frames your face better, which is a good reason because it ties it in to something else. From there you can take it back to a primary reinforcer (i.e. more attractive face = more appeal to the opposite sex = sex; and sex is a primary reinforcer.) The difference lies in the fact that you did it because you want to be more aesthetically pleasing, and the other person did it for purely personal reasons. Am I still making sense?

Ohhoho. Appealing to the opposite sex is about the absolute last thing on my mind when I am doing anything.
I love men, but sorry, I dress for me and that's really the only way there is to do it.

That was, obviously, just a guess I was putting out there. Gonna have to say that reason doesn't work for you either then.

[The Spellslinger]

Jagger-Wolf

Kyra Valdire

Jagger-Wolf

Kyra Valdire

She's the one debating my comment, but I can't take it any farther without knowing that. I don't need to know it, but nothing I say will be relevant without it, so I'm asking. I never said it did mean you identify with a certain subculture (well, actually I may have, but not in this thread tower), and asked if it was a personal thing right after I queried whether it may be a result of that.

As someone who is modified and has unnaturally colored hair, one of the most frequent questions I get is "Why would you do that?" and my standard response is the same as LUX's: "Why does anyone do anything? Because they enjoy it, at the minimum." That should be all the reasoning one needs. You don't need to know why I like it, just like I don't need to know why you like the things you do, it's none of my business. If you don't like something, don't do it for yourself, that's the bottom line.

I really don't understand where this rationale that "everyone who has unnatural hair is a poseur/is attention seeking/has daddy issues/is trying to be part of some subculture" or whatever, because the same could be said of anyone else, no matter what they look like. Nothing is 100% unique to any subculture or non-subculture. EVERYTHING someone does to their appearance or wears is a marker of some subculture. If you had a picture of yourself, I bet I could pick out at least 3 things you wear or do that would somehow attach you to a subculture.

Unnatural colored hair is no different than any other hair. So long as it's done well/treated well/looks good, who gives a s**t?

Right now I have long, curly hair, brushed to look like a lion's mane (it's literally past my shoulders at the moment, and looks exactly like that.) I have black-ish jeans tucked into heavy work boots, a Celtic belt buckle, a guitar pick on a necklace, and a shredded hummer shirt (even though I don't like hummers.) The best I could come up with would be black metaller, because it's all black, and I usually have a leather thing on my wrist, but beyond that, I have no clue. Feel free to stereotype me, I'm interested in seeing what you think- most people don't actually say it (well, to my face anyway, which might as well be the same thing.)
The only thing I said was that I thought it looked fake when people dyed their hair, but I think I took that back somewhere in my previous debate with you. I explicitly stated that I did not think it meant daddy issues, never said anything about attention seeking, asked if it was because they wanted to fit in (and that's an entirely rational reason that wouldn't rely on manufactured memories or extremist psychoanalytic thinking). I stated an opinion, my opinion was challenged, and I set about trying to prove it by encouraging deeper thought. If I'm digging into her business, that's more to promote her own personal introspecting than because it really matters to me how she wants to live.

Black jeans: You MUST be trying to be an emo kid, why else would you wear black? I bet they're skinny jeans too, huh? Trendy emo kid.

Celtic buckle: If you're not of Celtic descent, stop trying to appropriate a culture that isn't yours! If it is your culture, stop trying to rub it in my face! If you love the Celts so much, why don't you go move to Ireland where they came from!

Guitar Pick necklace: If you don't play, you're just a groupie follower. Don't wear a guitar pick if you can't even play, poseur. You're such a hipster, I bet you think you wear that "ironically" since you don't play, huh?

There you go, see? ANYTHING can be twisted into a negative light if you have a negative mind. I got a lot of that from things people have said to me, not that exactly, of course, but along the same vein. I've been told that I MUST be trying to be a scene kid, why else would I color my hair purple? But nothing else I do is even remotely in the scene category. I've been told I'm an emo kid because I wear black a lot. I'm trying to get back into a more gothy feel, and I wear black because I think it flatters my light skin well. I get told that I must have daddy issues and I MUST be dying for attention, which is the only reason I could possibly want to tattoo or pierce myself. I tattoo and pierce myself to make my body look like how I want. I don't like certain parts of myself, so I'm changing them in a way I do like. Everyone does this in one way or another.

Don't like your weight? Lose weight. Don't like how you feel or look in skirts? Don't wear them. Flare jeans make you look short and stumpy? Wear boot cut. Short hair accentuate your cheekbones more? Keep it short. Green eyeshadow bring out your eyes? Wear it more. Does your a** look amazing when you wear heels? Wear them more often. It's all about pleasing oneself when one looks in the mirror, not about pleasing anyone else who looks on you.

Not trying to come down hard on you or anything, just trying to encourage conversation. I'm kind of in a negative mood (NOT from you or anything, just other stuff) and this is helping me vent in a more positive/constructive way. /sorry, end emo tangent. emo

Hmmm. Don't worry about it, lets see:
Black jeans: not skinny- only wear those when my outfit is blatantly Satyricon/Motley Crue-esque. These are just a normal pair (actually they're South Pole, which I see a lot of black guys wearing, so I could be stereotyped into that group, except they're actually at my waist and I'm about as white as it gets.

Celtic Buckle: Actually, the knots aren't purely Celt (which is Scottish as well as Irish, amongst others) but have been seen in Scandinavian art as well. Yes, those are my cultures, and I'm not throwing it in anyones face so much as advertising it. I think it would be the coolest thing if America went through a cultural revival, or started developing culture of its own. (Whenever I tell people this, they tend to assume I'm racist or something, but most of the remnants of culture descend from our times as pagans, and that point in history, though at different times for different peoples, was mostly equal.)

Guitar Pick: I do play, and I play very well, and I've been seen playing in different classrooms, so people know I play. It's actually a cool necklace: extra proud of it since I made it myself. Kept taking forever, trying to find my pick in my wallet, and this solved that problem neatly. smile

Oh, forgot to mention I also had a studded silver belt as well, didn't even notice it. Llike I said though, I've never been stereotyped to my face (except when somebody walked up to me and said "black metal?" -but that was exactly what I was going for anyway.) This is interesting me. Today I'm wearing the same jeans, same two belts, same boots, but with a Nirvana shirt, and a black leather wristband that goes up most of my forarm.

[Melodic_Madness]

I don't think unnaturally colored hair makes you any one stereotype, but I have this bad assumption that the person is a ballsy type of person who doesnt care what we think of their hair. Its bad, I know.

[Nomad Realta]

I think unnaturally coloured hair always meets the extremes of "Looks amazing" and "god, you look like a tool." You seriously need to do it professionally and be sure the colors go with your skin tone if you don't want it to look awful. (Like, if you're pale, go with a lighter black.) Be sure to get your eyebrows done too!

I also suggest getting a naturally colored wig for if the situation requires it. (Like work.)

My friend's mother dyed her hair purple, and it's a shade that goes so well with her skin tone, it looks like it's naturally purple. It's absolutely gorgeous.

[LUX AURUMQU3]

Kyra Valdire

LUX AURUMQU3

Kyra Valdire

LUX AURUMQU3

Kyra Valdire

Ok, but why do you find it aesthetically pleasing then? Why do you find an unnatural (couldn't think of a less negatively charged word, although I did try) hair color, to be better than a more usual one? Did your favorite bands model this behavoir? Do your friends have similar styles? Where'd you pick it up?
There are reasons that people like things, it's not a mystical force acting on your mind for no reason whatsoever.

For one, I don't think unnatural colours are better than natural ones, I prefer a pop of colour in a mostly natural coloured head of hair.
I like it because it's a bright pop of colour, and it makes me happy.
I can't give you the exact neurological and psychological science behind why I like colours, particularly bright ones, because that's not my field of study.

I don't remember where exactly I first saw it, all I can really remember is talking with a friend in the beginning of our junior year and deciding we wanted to do something different with our hair.
At the time, blue was my favourite colour, so I lightened the tips and made them a deep bright blue, while she put hot pink in her hair.
I don't recall anyone in my high school having unnatural coloured hair, or at least no one I saw, and I saw most people on a daily basis due to working in the cafeteria for all of high school.
It was only myself and one friend who put these colours in our hair, none of our other friends were interested in it for themselves.
Nowadays, I listen to a number of bands that are alternative styled and their fans typically have unnatural coloured hair.
Back then, I listened to a lot of bands like Sum 41 and Three Days Grace but never really went to big concerts until after I graduated high school, and those bands didn't colour their hair unnaturally so I doubt they were the influence.
I can't tell you what exactly made me do it, or why I wanted to.
All I can tell you is that I like it.

You don't need to be studying a field to introspect, and dig deeper into your memories to discover the whys about yourself. You mention wanting to do something different with your hair, and earlier you've mentioned piercings, are you trying to mark yourself as unique, an individual? Or did you mean something different from the way you'd been doing your hair, and not mean your statement to include the nearby society at all?

At this point, you're really just playing Devil's Advocate.
I can't tell you exactly why I like bright colours, because simply saying they appeal to me and make me happy isn't good enough for you, and honestly, there isn't anything past that.
I don't do anything to make me "unique" or and "individual," because let's face it, it's pretty much impossible.
I'm not the only one in the world to put a couple chunks of deep purple in my hair, I'm not the only one with double nostrils and a septum piercing, I'm not the only one with tattoos on my body.
It's never been about being "different" from everyone else, it's about doing what makes me feel good about myself.
What I do to my appearance is 100% for me, not for friends, not for society, not for anyone else.

Geez, that post almost sounded depressed. That's not what I'm aiming to accomplish here, nor am I playing devil's advocate (not really advocating anything at this point, just trying to understand something). If you ever do figure out why you like it, you may be surprised by the answer. I'm going to leave you alone now, sorry if I caused offense.

I stated why I like it, and you kept asking why, like each answer wasn't good enough, thus why I called Devil's Advocate.
I like bright colours, they make me happy, and seeing a bit of it in my hair makes me happy because I like my appearance with it.
There really isn't anything past that.
I'm not quite sure how it's depressing that the ways I choose to express myself are based upon what makes me happy with my appearance and not based upon what others think.

[Jagger-Wolf]

Kyra Valdire

Jagger-Wolf

Kyra Valdire

She's the one debating my comment, but I can't take it any farther without knowing that. I don't need to know it, but nothing I say will be relevant without it, so I'm asking. I never said it did mean you identify with a certain subculture (well, actually I may have, but not in this thread tower), and asked if it was a personal thing right after I queried whether it may be a result of that.

As someone who is modified and has unnaturally colored hair, one of the most frequent questions I get is "Why would you do that?" and my standard response is the same as LUX's: "Why does anyone do anything? Because they enjoy it, at the minimum." That should be all the reasoning one needs. You don't need to know why I like it, just like I don't need to know why you like the things you do, it's none of my business. If you don't like something, don't do it for yourself, that's the bottom line.

I really don't understand where this rationale that "everyone who has unnatural hair is a poseur/is attention seeking/has daddy issues/is trying to be part of some subculture" or whatever, because the same could be said of anyone else, no matter what they look like. Nothing is 100% unique to any subculture or non-subculture. EVERYTHING someone does to their appearance or wears is a marker of some subculture. If you had a picture of yourself, I bet I could pick out at least 3 things you wear or do that would somehow attach you to a subculture.

Unnatural colored hair is no different than any other hair. So long as it's done well/treated well/looks good, who gives a s**t?

Right now I have long, curly hair, brushed to look like a lion's mane (it's literally past my shoulders at the moment, and looks exactly like that.) I have black-ish jeans tucked into heavy work boots, a Celtic belt buckle, a guitar pick on a necklace, and a shredded hummer shirt (even though I don't like hummers.) The best I could come up with would be black metaller, because it's all black, and I usually have a leather thing on my wrist, but beyond that, I have no clue. Feel free to stereotype me, I'm interested in seeing what you think- most people don't actually say it (well, to my face anyway, which might as well be the same thing.)
The only thing I said was that I thought it looked fake when people dyed their hair, but I think I took that back somewhere in my previous debate with you. I explicitly stated that I did not think it meant daddy issues, never said anything about attention seeking, asked if it was because they wanted to fit in (and that's an entirely rational reason that wouldn't rely on manufactured memories or extremist psychoanalytic thinking). I stated an opinion, my opinion was challenged, and I set about trying to prove it by encouraging deeper thought. If I'm digging into her business, that's more to promote her own personal introspecting than because it really matters to me how she wants to live.

Black jeans: You MUST be trying to be an emo kid, why else would you wear black? I bet they're skinny jeans too, huh? Trendy emo kid.

Celtic buckle: If you're not of Celtic descent, stop trying to appropriate a culture that isn't yours! If it is your culture, stop trying to rub it in my face! If you love the Celts so much, why don't you go move to Ireland where they came from!

Guitar Pick necklace: If you don't play, you're just a groupie follower. Don't wear a guitar pick if you can't even play, poseur. You're such a hipster, I bet you think you wear that "ironically" since you don't play, huh?

There you go, see? ANYTHING can be twisted into a negative light if you have a negative mind. I got a lot of that from things people have said to me, not that exactly, of course, but along the same vein. I've been told that I MUST be trying to be a scene kid, why else would I color my hair purple? But nothing else I do is even remotely in the scene category. I've been told I'm an emo kid because I wear black a lot. I'm trying to get back into a more gothy feel, and I wear black because I think it flatters my light skin well. I get told that I must have daddy issues and I MUST be dying for attention, which is the only reason I could possibly want to tattoo or pierce myself. I tattoo and pierce myself to make my body look like how I want. I don't like certain parts of myself, so I'm changing them in a way I do like. Everyone does this in one way or another.

Don't like your weight? Lose weight. Don't like how you feel or look in skirts? Don't wear them. Flare jeans make you look short and stumpy? Wear boot cut. Short hair accentuate your cheekbones more? Keep it short. Green eyeshadow bring out your eyes? Wear it more. Does your a** look amazing when you wear heels? Wear them more often. It's all about pleasing oneself when one looks in the mirror, not about pleasing anyone else who looks on you.

Not trying to come down hard on you or anything, just trying to encourage conversation. I'm kind of in a negative mood (NOT from you or anything, just other stuff) and this is helping me vent in a more positive/constructive way. /sorry, end emo tangent. emo

[Tuberculasers]

Kyra Valdire

Tuberculasers

Kyra Valdire

LUX AURUMQU3

Kyra Valdire

So why do you like it then?

Why do people like anything?
I happen to find it aesthetically pleasing, and not because of any group of people or whatever trend.
I've had various unnatural colours in my hair since I was 16, and I still enjoy it almost 6 years later, same as my love of piercings and stretched lobes.

Ok, but why do you find it aesthetically pleasing then? Why do you find an unnatural (couldn't think of a less negatively charged word, although I did try) hair color, to be better than a more usual one? Did your favorite bands model this behavoir? Do your friends have similar styles? Where'd you pick it up?
There are reasons that people like things, it's not a mystical force acting on your mind for no reason whatsoever.

Just gonna answer a few of your questions here myself. Out of nowhere.
I really find pastel colours aesthetically pleasing. I think they're fun, cute, and a lot more subtle. I don't think any pastel colours are better than natural ones or vise versa. I don't think any colours are better than any other colours in general, there's only what's right for you and what's not. I personally don't like dark browns/blacks because they look really bad on me. But that doesn't make them bad colours.

I listen to a lot of rap. My style and musical taste are VERY different things. My favourite female artist looks like this, and all of my friends have very clean cut, simple looks, the farthest any of them will go with their hair is highlights.

It really is just as simple as a "mythical force". You come across a hair style, or colour, or article of clothing or anything and think "Hey, I like that" and then you like it. You don't need 20 years of a background check to see where your childhood somehow went wrong or something and this event over here merged with that event over there and they collided with event #3 that pushed you in this direction of wanting to dye your hair green.

"I like that" is not a reason for liking that, and there's always a reason. I'm not saying anything went wrong either- that's much more Freudian (and potentially offensive) than I'm trying to be, but I am saying that things don't happen arbitrarily. You've already come up with a reason: you think it frames your face better, which is a good reason because it ties it in to something else. From there you can take it back to a primary reinforcer (i.e. more attractive face = more appeal to the opposite sex = sex; and sex is a primary reinforcer.) The difference lies in the fact that you did it because you want to be more aesthetically pleasing, and the other person did it for purely personal reasons. Am I still making sense?

Ohhoho. Appealing to the opposite sex is about the absolute last thing on my mind when I am doing anything.
I love men, but sorry, I dress for me and that's really the only way there is to do it.

[The Spellslinger]

Jagger-Wolf

Kyra Valdire

"I like that" is not a reason for liking that, and there's always a reason. I'm not saying anything went wrong either- that's much more Freudian (and potentially offensive) than I'm trying to be, but I am saying that things don't happen arbitrarily. You've already come up with a reason: you think it frames your face better, which is a good reason because it ties it in to something else. From there you can take it back to a primary reinforcer (i.e. more attractive face = more appeal to the opposite sex = sex; and sex is a primary reinforcer.) The difference lies in the fact that you did it because you want to be more aesthetically pleasing, and the other person did it for purely personal reasons. Am I still making sense?

I just think you're looking WAY too deeply into this and trying to psychoanalyze everyone here.

What is so wrong about just letting people enjoy something they like? You don't have to like it, we're not asking you to, we're just asking you to not harass those of us who do enjoy it.

I've already apologized to the person I thought I went to far with, to you personally I gave a lot of ground in a previous post, I've tried to kill a couple thread towers, and I'm still not supporting psychoanalytic theories, so I don't know what's still got you going on. People will disagree with you in life; I'm only throwing my opinion out here because this is the internet, and they asked for opinions- I don't go around in real life screaming curses at everyone with any sort of body mod (fond of the idea of a tattoo myself, for different reasons), I just don't care much for dyed hair.

[The Spellslinger]

Jagger-Wolf

Kyra Valdire

She's the one debating my comment, but I can't take it any farther without knowing that. I don't need to know it, but nothing I say will be relevant without it, so I'm asking. I never said it did mean you identify with a certain subculture (well, actually I may have, but not in this thread tower), and asked if it was a personal thing right after I queried whether it may be a result of that.

As someone who is modified and has unnaturally colored hair, one of the most frequent questions I get is "Why would you do that?" and my standard response is the same as LUX's: "Why does anyone do anything? Because they enjoy it, at the minimum." That should be all the reasoning one needs. You don't need to know why I like it, just like I don't need to know why you like the things you do, it's none of my business. If you don't like something, don't do it for yourself, that's the bottom line.

I really don't understand where this rationale that "everyone who has unnatural hair is a poseur/is attention seeking/has daddy issues/is trying to be part of some subculture" or whatever, because the same could be said of anyone else, no matter what they look like. Nothing is 100% unique to any subculture or non-subculture. EVERYTHING someone does to their appearance or wears is a marker of some subculture. If you had a picture of yourself, I bet I could pick out at least 3 things you wear or do that would somehow attach you to a subculture.

Unnatural colored hair is no different than any other hair. So long as it's done well/treated well/looks good, who gives a s**t?

Right now I have long, curly hair, brushed to look like a lion's mane (it's literally past my shoulders at the moment, and looks exactly like that.) I have black-ish jeans tucked into heavy work boots, a Celtic belt buckle, a guitar pick on a necklace, and a shredded hummer shirt (even though I don't like hummers.) The best I could come up with would be black metaller, because it's all black, and I usually have a leather thing on my wrist, but beyond that, I have no clue. Feel free to stereotype me, I'm interested in seeing what you think- most people don't actually say it (well, to my face anyway, which might as well be the same thing.)
The only thing I said was that I thought it looked fake when people dyed their hair, but I think I took that back somewhere in my previous debate with you. I explicitly stated that I did not think it meant daddy issues, never said anything about attention seeking, asked if it was because they wanted to fit in (and that's an entirely rational reason that wouldn't rely on manufactured memories or extremist psychoanalytic thinking). I stated an opinion, my opinion was challenged, and I set about trying to prove it by encouraging deeper thought. If I'm digging into her business, that's more to promote her own personal introspecting than because it really matters to me how she wants to live.

[Jagger-Wolf]

Kyra Valdire

"I like that" is not a reason for liking that, and there's always a reason. I'm not saying anything went wrong either- that's much more Freudian (and potentially offensive) than I'm trying to be, but I am saying that things don't happen arbitrarily. You've already come up with a reason: you think it frames your face better, which is a good reason because it ties it in to something else. From there you can take it back to a primary reinforcer (i.e. more attractive face = more appeal to the opposite sex = sex; and sex is a primary reinforcer.) The difference lies in the fact that you did it because you want to be more aesthetically pleasing, and the other person did it for purely personal reasons. Am I still making sense?

I just think you're looking WAY too deeply into this and trying to psychoanalyze everyone here.

What is so wrong about just letting people enjoy something they like? You don't have to like it, we're not asking you to, we're just asking you to not harass those of us who do enjoy it.