I get what you are saying...but ******** the establishment.
Eh. Anti-establishmentism has been around since day one of The Establishment (whatever the ******** that means) took control, which is why I find the whole idea ultimately silly and futile.
******** off complaining about not being old enough to get into cool s**t. It's for grown ups because grown up s**t happens. Like titties, and liquor. And little bitches don't need to be around gawping at the titties, and trying to buy beer getting all the cool dive bars closed down.
If little kids weren't dumb then maybe they would be allowed to go to 18-21+ shows.
i don't know what punk you're listening to, but even when i was a kid i never wanted "positive influence" punk (now, positive punk is obviously another story)
******** all of that noise. I love my all ages venues. I loved em when I was underage and I love them now.
I hate bands playing in dirty ******** bars where smoke burns and jackoffs throw ******** beer bottles on the ground and glass gets goddamn everywhere.
Probably has to do with that fact that I don't drink at shows and I prefer to dance barefoot at shows. Glass and plastic bottles and s**t ******** that plan up.
Also I'd be fine with the venue just not allowing any bottles or etc away from tables. Ya.
In addition the best venue in my city is the all ages venue. It is also the only one cool with nudity.
That's why there are all ages house/warehouse shows where anything goes. I've hardly bothered spending money at a venue for a ticket because most of the money is not going toward the band, the security are dicks, & who wants to spend 15 on a punk show unless they're legendary & awesome?
there's a venue in seattle that keeps its location a secret so you can only get there by knowing someone else who goes and its all ages 5 dollar shows all the time and they serve beer
it was hard to find but i've seen thou and walls there and it's a pretty neat little place with a giant pentagram
it seems to work just fine and is a nice community despite people being "underage"