Theoretically, John Cena is the face between him and Rocky..

[TheGreatestSage]

If people can remember back, (Which not many fans can nowadays), when The Rock left WWE, he was booed out of the building for going into movies. The fans hated it. Now all of the sudden they want him back? Doesn't sit well with me.

I feel like more people should be seeing Cena's point of view. Sure, he has a gimmik that is stale, but it worked in the 80's, the whole superhero thing I mean. It's hypocritical to boo Cena and admit you believed in Hulkamania at the same time. They're one in the same, just for diffrent generations. And sure, he may seem "fake", but he is genuine, and loves all of his fans, and is willing to stay for much longer than advertized at autograph signings to make sure everyone leaves happy...He's stayed in the company to perform for the fans all the years The Rock sat comfortablly in his trailer for another straight to DVD release. The Rock was BOOED out of the building when he left the WWE, now we're all of the sudden willing to forgive and have him come back for one match, just to watch him ride away in the sunset back to his shitty movies. No matter who wins or loses, the result will be the same. The Rock is going to leave, and bring it live via satilite...while shoving more Rock merchandise down our throats as he promotes another bad toothfairy movie.

So again, why are we booing John Cena?

[kevin3485]

Um...When was he booed out of the building exactly? Cause it wasn't when he left after the Backlash PPV. in April 2003. It wasn't when he came back for one night in June of that same year. It wasn't in any of the couple appearances he had in 2004. So again...when was he booed out of the building when he left the WWE? If there's something I left out, then I would go out on a limb and say he wasn't booed out of the place when he left. In fact, he keeps getting huge pops whenever he shows back up.

As for the whole "he's not there every week" thing, this a privilege he earned. Many of the Cena fans don't seem to understand this...when the Rock was working for the WWE, it wasn't for one night and then he went on break for six months. He wrestled for seven years for the WWE, doing the same things Cena is doing now. Was he as nice to his fans as Cena? I don't know cause I've never met him, but I'm sure he didn't do as much as Cena does...but that doesn't matter cause Rock was a heel for most of his run anyway. Big deal if John is doing this now...Rock was doing that when Cena still wanted to be a bodybuilder... Not to mention that out of the seven years he was in the business, for five of those years, he was a headlining main eventer. And probably for only about one of those years, he got a similar reaction from the fans to what Cena gets...so he changed his gimmick to avoid becoming stale...something Cena can't/isn't do/doing.

And I'm not going to blame him for leaving the WWE. He was getting offered more money to not kill himself in the ring, and he had the talent to do it (yes, his movies suck...that's more on his agent though because he is by far the best part of any movie he does...the Reno 911 movie or Doom for example). Let's not forget...it's a business, and no matter how many times Dwayne Johnson told people not to call him the Rock, everyone still remembered him as a wrestler...he was a bigger billboard for the company than Cena ever will be...mostly cause, while you say Rock is doing direct-to-DVD movies, the fact is that the Rock is doing Hollywood blockbusters while Cena does WWE films...that's like the difference between choosing to sit down to a nice porter house steak...or a rancid pile of s**t.

As for their match, neither of them are going to go heel...which is a shame. Rock is a better heel, but he's the veteran megastar and he's going to be in Miami, so the roof is going to explode when he comes out. Cena, on the other hand, will be lucky to get his usual half cheer/half boo reaction, as the roof will probably explode in boos when he comes out. Knowing this, the WWE would be smart to have turned him heel before hand...but instead, they're playing this stupid angle with Kane instead. Hopefully, they've got a back-up for this and are planning on Cena getting booed out of the building, putting the Rock over, and then turning Cena heel as they build Punk to be the next top babyface. That's the only way I see this entire thing working as having either of them just win does nothing for them or the company.

[TheGreatestSage]

kevin3485

Um...When was he booed out of the building exactly?

Remember "Rock Appreciation Day"? Everyone was booing him. That was what I was harkening back to. You've made a good point. It's just that in my mind, I feel like more people should be seeing things from Cena's point of view, instead of seeing everything from Rock's. I should have refined this more before posting, but my arm was killing me last night, so I just didn't care. XD I understand where you're coming from. It's his choice to leave or come back, but in the sense of this feud, I feel like Cena should be given more credibility.

[Dont_Fear_the_Reefer]

TheGreatestSage

kevin3485

Um...When was he booed out of the building exactly?

Remember "Rock Appreciation Day"? Everyone was booing him. That was what I was harkening back to. You've made a good point. It's just that in my mind, I feel like more people should be seeing things from Cena's point of view, instead of seeing everything from Rock's. I should have refined this more before posting, but my arm was killing me last night, so I just didn't care. XD I understand where you're coming from. It's his choice to leave or come back, but in the sense of this feud, I feel like Cena should be given more credibility.

In all fairness, he was feuding with both Hogan and Austin for the months leading up to WM19. He was the heel by comparison.

Watching him get pinned by The Hurricane was funny.

[darkz2005]

Dont_Fear_the_Reefer

TheGreatestSage

kevin3485

Um...When was he booed out of the building exactly?

Remember Rock Appreciation Day? Everyone was booing him. That was what I was harkening back to. Youve made a good point. Its just that in my mind, I feel like more people should be seeing things from Cenas point of view, instead of seeing everything from Rocks. I should have refined this more before posting, but my arm was killing me last night, so I just didnt care. XD I understand where youre coming from. Its his choice to leave or come back, but in the sense of this feud, I feel like Cena should be given more credibility.

In all fairness, he was feuding with both Hogan and Austin for the months leading up to WM19. He was the heel by comparison.

Watching him get pinned by The Hurricane was funny.

The hurricane/Rick feud is one of my favs

[kevin3485]

TheGreatestSage

kevin3485

Um...When was he booed out of the building exactly?

Remember "Rock Appreciation Day"? Everyone was booing him. That was what I was harkening back to. You've made a good point. It's just that in my mind, I feel like more people should be seeing things from Cena's point of view, instead of seeing everything from Rock's. I should have refined this more before posting, but my arm was killing me last night, so I just didn't care. XD I understand where you're coming from. It's his choice to leave or come back, but in the sense of this feud, I feel like Cena should be given more credibility.

As someone already said, he was a heel at the time...he was supposed to be getting booed. If anything, that just means Rock was a better character because he extracted the exact feeling he wanted from the crowd, save for the time he had become the stale babyface, which was what he was going through before he made his heel turn for that run.

And it's not like I don't listen to Cena with an open mind...it's just that he doesn't know what he's talking about. Despite what he thinks, he can't keep doing this forever and one day, he's going to have to leave too...and when someone comes along to call him out on leaving, if he tries to defend himself, he's a hypocrite. But even more reason to side with the Rock is the fact that the WWE let's John say whatever the hell he wants...but they'll edit the s**t out of the Rock's stuff, just so John doesn't come out that bad. The WWE wants Cena to be on top of this feud, but he just can't compete and people are sick of him...maybe not the kids who go out there, buy the Cena crap, and dance like puppets for the WWE, but they'll do that s**t regardless of who you tell them to root for.

[pockybot]

TheGreatestSage

If people can remember back, (Which not many fans can nowadays), when The Rock left WWE, he was booed out of the building for going into movies. The fans hated it. Now all of the sudden they want him back? Doesn't sit well with me.

I feel like more people should be seeing Cena's point of view. Sure, he has a gimmik that is stale, but it worked in the 80's, the whole superhero thing I mean. It's hypocritical to boo Cena and admit you believed in Hulkamania at the same time. They're one in the same, just for diffrent generations. And sure, he may seem "fake", but he is genuine, and loves all of his fans, and is willing to stay for much longer than advertized at autograph signings to make sure everyone leaves happy...He's stayed in the company to perform for the fans all the years The Rock sat comfortablly in his trailer for another straight to DVD release. The Rock was BOOED out of the building when he left the WWE, now we're all of the sudden willing to forgive and have him come back for one match, just to watch him ride away in the sunset back to his shitty movies. No matter who wins or loses, the result will be the same. The Rock is going to leave, and bring it live via satilite...while shoving more Rock merchandise down our throats as he promotes another bad toothfairy movie.

So again, why are we booing John Cena?

Because John Cena is the face of what's wrong with modern WWE: It's boring. Ever since the WWF changed to "sports entertainment" in 2002, and ESPECIALLY since the Benoit event, WWE has continually become this mind numbingly kiddyfied quagmire of bad mic work, generic personalities, and muddled plot lines.

Yes, we can talk about all the crazy costumes, lack of technical ability and drug use. But late 80s-late 90s wrestling at least had pop, zing, personality. It's all just guys who look the same. 2004-2012 WWE sucks in my view. The ONLY thing interesting to me is CM Punk, and thats more because of the may 2011 "shoot" he did and the fall out from that. As well as his smark baiting confrontations.

The Rock, Hulk Hogan, HBK and especially Stone Cold were larger than life. They were electric. (I always found HHH boring outside DX) John Cena, while he might be a nice goody two shoes all American guy who is sincere and isnt part of wrestlings drug fueled shady years...is boring.

But I definitely feel like its a big slap in the face to have the WM main event decided almost a year in advance...and to feature Cena vs a guy who turned his back on wrestling. Even Hogan when he was doing a ton of movies never truly left wrestling. Its an EXHIBITION match, like the Goldberg vs Lesner with Stone Cold ref match. But it shouldnt be the main event. Oooh, Dwayne is gracing us with his presence. CM Punk should show up as a non worked shoot and interfere, lol.

Now if they add more 'dream matches' like Sting vs Undertaker, and a true TNA vs WWE dream match...I can let it slide.

But more and more the WWE is alienating older fans.

[pockybot]

Dont_Fear_the_Reefer

TheGreatestSage

kevin3485

Um...When was he booed out of the building exactly?

Remember "Rock Appreciation Day"? Everyone was booing him. That was what I was harkening back to. You've made a good point. It's just that in my mind, I feel like more people should be seeing things from Cena's point of view, instead of seeing everything from Rock's. I should have refined this more before posting, but my arm was killing me last night, so I just didn't care. XD I understand where you're coming from. It's his choice to leave or come back, but in the sense of this feud, I feel like Cena should be given more credibility.

In all fairness, he was feuding with both Hogan and Austin for the months leading up to WM19. He was the heel by comparison.

Watching him get pinned by The Hurricane was funny.

Wait, The Rock got pinned by that lame early 2000's era jobber? As much as I am not a fan of modern WWE(cept CM Punk), 2001 era WWE was even lamer.

[Dont_Fear_the_Reefer]

pockybot

Dont_Fear_the_Reefer

TheGreatestSage

kevin3485

Um...When was he booed out of the building exactly?

Remember "Rock Appreciation Day"? Everyone was booing him. That was what I was harkening back to. You've made a good point. It's just that in my mind, I feel like more people should be seeing things from Cena's point of view, instead of seeing everything from Rock's. I should have refined this more before posting, but my arm was killing me last night, so I just didn't care. XD I understand where you're coming from. It's his choice to leave or come back, but in the sense of this feud, I feel like Cena should be given more credibility.

In all fairness, he was feuding with both Hogan and Austin for the months leading up to WM19. He was the heel by comparison.

Watching him get pinned by The Hurricane was funny.

Wait, The Rock got pinned by that lame early 2000's era jobber? As much as I am not a fan of modern WWE(cept CM Punk), 2001 era WWE was even lamer.

When he was returning, before WM19, they had this brief "Scorpion King vs. Hurricane, who's the best hero?" argument vignette, which lead to a match. Austin distracted The Rock, and the Hurricane hit a chokeslam for the upset victory. It was actually pretty awesome to watch.

[Juanito Shet]

I read all of what Kevin said. Sounds like reason to me since I was able to digest it all and think about it for a bit.

So with that read and with him saying all that could be said, I'll continue to smell what The Rock is COOKIN'. emotion_awesome

[kevin3485]

Juanito Shet

I read al--

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU READ!

[Phillip Brooks -CM Punk-]

Haha.. This thread makes me laugh..

[TheGreatestSage]

Phillip Brooks -CM Punk-

Haha.. This thread makes me laugh..

I'm sure it does, CM Punk. I made to just to humor you...Lol. But hey, I'm not afraid to state my opinion. If Cena did a better job relating to the fans I think, this feud could be so much better. Actually, it would be so much better if The Rock had been in the WWE's main roster for months, and actually working his way in the company. The rivalry would feel so much more real. Instead, all we have is passive aggressive smack talk between the men on Twitter.

This is why The Rock vs. Hogan was so much better. Hogan had been wrestling for a while before they even began to rival. It felt genuine and I felt compelled to watch every second between the two. They interacted consistantly face to face, and wrestled trying to show each other up. I literally got chills watching it. With Rock and Cena? All it is is via' satillite, well put together promos, and the announcers shoving this down our throats like baby food. It doesn't feel like a real WWE rivalry to me. I can only compare this to two kids talking about each other back and forth over a computer because they don't want to see each other face to face. It would have been so much better if Rock had stayed in the company to wrestle, that way there wouldn't be this detatchment in the rivalry.

"But, but...he has these new movies and he needs to tour around the world promoting them----"

If he said he wanted to return and "electrify the crowd one more time", he's going to have to do a lot more than one PPV match, Twitter bitching, and promo-making to impress me. I'm sorry. The Rock vs. Cena is something I am going to watch, but I don't nessicarily care about it. We all know what is going to happen in the end. Whoever wins, Rock is going to ride off into the sunset to make more straight to DVD movies, and no wrestling. Might be better this way actually. If Rock did return as a permanent wrestler, he'd be shoved in our faces so hard, that no one else in the company would get a chance to shine at all. It wouldn't be WWE RAW, it would be The Rock show.