New WWE Belt, Damien Sandow & AJ Lee Talk

[Rumblestiltskin]

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kevin3485

Brian Kendrick will never pass a piss test long enough to be hired again by the WWE...

"Many in WWE believe that Brian Kendrick will be returning to WWE for the new Cruiserweight show on WWE Network later this year. Kendrick said last week during a radio appearance that he has stopped using marijuana and would be interested in returning to WWE." - 411mania.com

Sure he might be lying, but hell it would be nice too see Brian back imo.

Hopefully he isn't lying. He was terrible in TNA, and I think most of it was because their drug tests are one huge joke. If he's clean, I could see him doing some good things in the WWE.

[Juanito Shet]

kevin3485

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kevin3485

Brian Kendrick will never pass a piss test long enough to be hired again by the WWE...

"Many in WWE believe that Brian Kendrick will be returning to WWE for the new Cruiserweight show on WWE Network later this year. Kendrick said last week during a radio appearance that he has stopped using marijuana and would be interested in returning to WWE." - 411mania.com

Sure he might be lying, but hell it would be nice too see Brian back imo.

Hopefully he isn't lying. He was terrible in TNA, and I think most of it was because their drug tests are one huge joke. If he's clean, I could see him doing some good things in the WWE.

I can see some great things come out of him too. I mean, I didn't get to see too much of Kendrick and London, but what I did see always had me excited during the match.

...Except what Kendrick did as a heel back when he had Jackson as a bodyguard. Though except for now, I refuse to acknowledge that ever happened. Especially since it was just their way of introducing another big black guy. neutral

[Yulister]

Hunico loses a Dark Match at Smackdown against someone that isn't even on the roster.

He should go back to doing high flying moves. I think he was the better sin cara, since he Isn't currently injured.

[Juanito Shet]

Yulister

Hunico loses a Dark Match at Smackdown against someone that isn't even on the roster.

He should go back to doing high flying moves. I think he was the better sin cara, since he Isn't currently injured.

Yeah. Exactly.

And I'm not sure about the high-flying stuff. I think he's doing fine in-ring wise as he is, and him using high-flying moves sparingly is something I've found to my liking. 3nodding

[Mike Riovanes]

kevin3485

The term "gang" predates the use in reference to the mafia. The word has been used to refer to any sort of semi-organized group of people involved in illegal activities for centuries now. So...which one of us doesn't understand the meaning of the term again?

Obviously you still. xD

Seeing as how Mobsters or Gangsters, Which....I don't know about you, but Bloods and Crips weren't around when the REAL Gangsters were about. Mafioso Mobsters were the reason the term Gangster was coined, Thats the effin point of my reason behind being so "Picky".

Gang or Mob is a Seperate word versus Gangster or Mobster.
Can you name a Group of individuals BEFORE The Italian Mafia Family was brought about?

Italian Mob 1930's (Probably longer, but we found out about them in 1930s)
Latin Kings 1940's
American Gangs mostly started in 1960's

Yakuza wasn't considered Gangsters (The Term), but Thugs/Theives seeing most were just recruited based on fear not Family (Or really a Gang). Which is still the same (I'd say they could be Gangsters though), and they have been around for a long time(Fuedal Era). Yakuza is considered more of a Syndicate seeing they had Political power and openly brought it to the public.

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My whole ******** point was: He doesn't Come off Gangster enough to me. He looks like a Poser.

To me Latin Kings = Posers anyway. They all try to be Scarface.

[Juanito Shet]

Mike Riovanes

kevin3485

The term "gang" predates the use in reference to the mafia. The word has been used to refer to any sort of semi-organized group of people involved in illegal activities for centuries now. So...which one of us doesn't understand the meaning of the term again?

Obviously you still. xD

Seeing as how Mobsters or Gangsters, Which....I don't know about you, but Bloods and Crips weren't around when the REAL Gangsters were about. Mafioso Mobsters were the reason the term Gangster was coined, Thats the effin point of my reason behind being so "Picky".

Gang or Mob is a Seperate word versus Gangster or Mobster.
Can you name a Group of individuals BEFORE The Italian Mafia Family was brought about?

Italian Mob 1930's (Probably longer, but we found out about them in 1930s)
Latin Kings 1940's
American Gangs mostly started in 1960's

I guess "Gangs" could be Tribes? lol African Tribes? Cause you know...they did Drive Bys with Blow Darts while riding a Lion and asking for Protection Money. lmao

Leave it to you guys to have a debate about something that means little to nothing, in the end. neutral

Generally people such as myself consider a "mobster" and a "gangster" to be the exact same thing or something very similar. So really, what's the point of debating it?

Just drop it, man. Drop it.

[Mike Riovanes]

Juanito Shet

Leave it to you guys to have a debate about something that means little to nothing, in the end. neutral

Hey it keeps my mind fresh for the most part. I'm at work so its not like I'm going anywhere lol And I got some break time/keeps me sane when I check on stuff I like. Debating is fun. biggrin Plus sometimes when you do research on some things you know about, you might pick up something new that was brought to public later as well.

Finding out new things is fun! biggrin

[Rumblestiltskin]

Mike Riovanes

kevin3485

The term "gang" predates the use in reference to the mafia. The word has been used to refer to any sort of semi-organized group of people involved in illegal activities for centuries now. So...which one of us doesn't understand the meaning of the term again?

Can you name a Group of individuals BEFORE The Italian Mafia Family was brought about?

The Thuggee gangs of India who killed 1 million people between 1740 and 1840...almost 200 years before your precious mobsters. Thanks for playing.

[Dion Necurat]

Mike Riovanes

Can you name a Group of individuals BEFORE The Italian Mafia Family was brought about?

Considering the Sicilian Mafia was founded in the 1910s, that narrows down the list to only a few, though the Yamaguci-gumi stands out among them.

[Mike Riovanes]

kevin3485

The Thuggee gangs of India who killed 1 million people between 1740 and 1840...almost 200 years before your precious mobsters. Thanks for playing.

Religious Cult. See Dark Ages. Not a Gang. Cult vs Gang.

Next? biggrin

[Rumblestiltskin]

Mike Riovanes

kevin3485

The Thuggee gangs of India who killed 1 million people between 1740 and 1840...almost 200 years before your precious mobsters. Thanks for playing.

Religious Cult. See Dark Ages. Not a Gang. Cult vs Gang.

Next? biggrin

Gang- Group of people...which means the word is entirely up for change based on era, cultural differences, etc. Just because you immediately envision the '20s mobsters, doesn't mean all gangs are the '20s mobsters.

Also note...that was just the first one I came across...here are several more (all of whom predate the idea of Scicilian mobsters):

-19th century orphan pickpockets
-The Yakuza
-The Order of Assassins
-Adam the Leper's gang
-Penny Mobs
-Triads
-The Irish Mob (bet that one's a real blow)
-The Dead Rabbits
-ANY Old West outlaw gang
-Bowery Boys
-40 Thieves

The Scicilian mobsters are just one small example of a gang...They are not the whole.

[Juanito Shet]

Mike Riovanes

Juanito Shet

Leave it to you guys to have a debate about something that means little to nothing, in the end. neutral

Hey it keeps my mind fresh for the most part. I'm at work so its not like I'm going anywhere lol And I got some break time/keeps me sane when I check on stuff I like. Debating is fun. biggrin Plus sometimes when you do research on some things you know about, you might pick up something new that was brought to public later as well.

Finding out new things is fun! biggrin

Fiiine. I'll just watch then. I'm not stopping you. xd

[Mike Riovanes]

Dion Necurat

Mike Riovanes

Can you name a Group of individuals BEFORE The Italian Mafia Family was brought about?

Considering the Sicilian Mafia was founded in the 1910s, that narrows down the list to only a few, though the Yamaguci-gumi stands out among them.

I definitely agree. I always saw Yakuza as prime examples of Organized crimes "Grand Fathers" so to speak. I think another issue is the Sicilian Mafia was formed actually in 1862, but the American style "Gangsters" which is what I mean coined the Phrase so to speak was what you said, 1910's.

the Yamagucci might be what? 1915? so around the same time.

For me, I don't know what Kevin has against the Term Gangster and people being proud about the Italian Mob is the ORIGINAL Gangster. He sounds angry about that. xd

I'd like to say; Suits/Nice outfit, using Gyrote Wire is gangster.

lol Love for the weapons they use (Most Gangsters at that time took care of their weapons or only bought cheap s**t to throw away when done, but most kept a favorite weapon and took care of it, Hey! Tools Make the man!), Classic Cars versus Some ghetto nobody who DESTROY CARS BY PAINTING THEM LIME GREEN OR SPARKLY PURPLE, wearing Saggy Pants and Ugly a** Tattoos (Usually of Jesus or Crosses, cause you know...Jesus loves his Gang Bangers LMAO). That just doesn't feel GANGSTER, it feels Ignorant. It feels dirty calling one of them "Gangster"...it really does.

Sorry Juan, thats the only reason I brought it up (And I even said it at the begining, you saw me razz )

Kevin here just likes to argue. razz I like obliging him cause its fun.

[Rumblestiltskin]

Mike Riovanes

For me, I don't know what Kevin has against the Term Gangster and people being proud about the Italian Mob is the ORIGINAL Gangster. He sounds angry about that. xd

If you were right, I'd agree with you...You're not, as I've proven. The Scicilian Mob definitely inspired a lot of today's modern street gangs, like the Bloods, the Crips, etc...but the Scicilian Mob was hardly the first gang, ergo, their members were not the first gangsters.

[Juanito Shet]

Mike Riovanes

Dion Necurat

Mike Riovanes

Can you name a Group of individuals BEFORE The Italian Mafia Family was brought about?

Considering the Sicilian Mafia was founded in the 1910s, that narrows down the list to only a few, though the Yamaguci-gumi stands out among them.

I definitely agree. I always saw Yakuza as prime examples of Organized crimes "Grand Fathers" so to speak. I think another issue is the Sicilian Mafia was formed actually in 1862, but the American style "Gangsters" which is what I mean coined the Phrase so to speak was what you said, 1910's.

the Yamagucci might be what? 1915? so around the same time.

For me, I don't know what Kevin has against the Term Gangster and people being proud about the Italian Mob is the ORIGINAL Gangster. He sounds angry about that. xd

I'd like to say; Suits/Nice outfit, using Gyrote Wire is gangster.

lol Love for the weapons they use (Most Gangsters at that time took care of their weapons or only bought cheap s**t to throw away when done, but most kept a favorite weapon and took care of it, Hey! Tools Make the man!), Classic Cars versus Some ghetto nobody who DESTROY CARS BY PAINTING THEM LIME GREEN OR SPARKLY PURPLE, wearing Saggy Pants and Ugly a** Tattoos (Usually of Jesus or Crosses, cause you know...Jesus loves his Gang Bangers LMAO). That just doesn't feel GANGSTER, it feels Ignorant. It feels dirty calling one of them "Gangster"...it really does.

Sorry Juan, thats the only reason I brought it up (And I even said it at the begining, you saw me razz )

Kevin here just likes to argue. razz I like obliging him cause its fun.

Everyone likes to argue. But I accept your not-so-honest apology. emotion_omnomnom