How Come Some Stars Can Never Make A Comeback?

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Kevin Nash looked pretty good in his CM Punk/HHH brief feud in WWE(amazing what a dye job can do) Hulk Hogan(least aesthetically/outside the ring) still looks good. Jericho still has it going on. And even when they stop being able to physically wrestle, many once big names still have a presence. Whether if its as a "commissioner", color commentator, or just as a personality.

But for the wrestlers who didn't die, there's still a lot of big names that never seemed to stay big names and ended up fading into obscurity.

Sid Vicious. Having his leg literally almost torn off in one of the most jarring televised moments since Vader's eye popped out, one can understand taking a few years off. But he never came back

With Ultimate Warrior, his lack of coming back is clear: the guy is not just crazy, but a total d**k to promoters and other wrestlers

Lex Luger is now very skinny, frail and partially disabled. I don't mean to talk bad about him, but like Warrior, I never really felt he had that much in ring charisma or ability other than flexing his muscles. Im still a huge nostalgic fan for 1989-1995 WCW. I loved classic Sting, Flair, Luger, Arn Anderson, Brian Pilman, etc. But Luger made a more important comeback. He was told several years ago he'd be paralyzed from the neck down, and now he is walking and helping to run the WWE's aggressive wellness and prevention program.

Scott Hall...one of the most infamous and game changing names of the 1990's...seeing him now, it's a struggle for him to even get out of bed and function. I think it's not just Benoit, but Scott Hall is another reason WWE drastically changed the culture backroom of the anti drug/perscription abuse culture. Though I do find his weekly youtube vlogs with Larry Zbysko entertaining

Ahmed Johnson...there was a time, back in 1996-1998 they tried to poise him as a main star, but for some reason he wasn't seen as a team player and got relegated to being a mid carder.

But probably the wrestler Im surprised never came back was Bill Goldberg. His spring 2004 retirement still puzzles me, as he never really was used right in the WWE. Surprised TNA hasnt brought him in since theyre in a WCW nostalgic fog.

[GunsmithKitten]

I can tell you with certainty that Jim Hellwig (Warrior) has way too much baggage to be of much worth to any promoter aside from the smallest indy feds who need a name...ANY NAME...to put on an advertisement. Not just the drugs, but him making a jackass out of himself by trying to act like a political pundit.

Ahmed Johnson, from what I understand, worked way way way too stiff, and people were legitimately afraid he'd pull another D'Lo Brown/Droz incident.

Sid's whole career just kept on falling downward since stabbing Arn, and good enough.

Bill Goldberg, I get the feeling, might be quitting while he's still not a vegetable. Smart move.

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GunsmithKitten

I can tell you with certainty that Jim Hellwig (Warrior) has way too much baggage to be of much worth to any promoter aside from the smallest indy feds who need a name...ANY NAME...to put on an advertisement. Not just the drugs, but him making a jackass out of himself by trying to act like a political pundit.

Ahmed Johnson, from what I understand, worked way way way too stiff, and people were legitimately afraid he'd pull another D'Lo Brown/Droz incident.

Sid's whole career just kept on falling downward since stabbing Arn, and good enough.

Bill Goldberg, I get the feeling, might be quitting while he's still not a vegetable. Smart move.

Yeah I remember reading pro wrestling news sites in the late 90's who said that Ahmed Johnson was difficult to work with in the ring. Though there's a long list of wrestlers who either thought it was funny to do no sells or just were a bit sloppy/dangerous in the ring. CM Punk recently in a candid podcast shoot mentioned a few WWE guys he feels lucky he didn't get injured by.

Now Warrior...I saw the WWE documentary about his rise and fall...it's rare you see a genuine nutcase in wrestling that that's big. I think it was indie star Chris Masters on tvtrax podcast on youtube that talked about Warrior's most recent indie headliner, this time in the UK. Where not only was his in ring skillset a joke, but he acted like a total diva and had to have his own dressing room. His promos back in 1990-1992 and his home made vlogs of today pretty much sound like the same bizarre rants

Actually Sid was a star long after that bizarre stabbing incident. I believe it was like 1999/2000 when he almost twisted his leg off in a botched spot with Steiner. But yeah it's bizarre when you hear about that stuff. If I recall Bruiser Brody was killed by another wrestler backstage, and New Jack has admittedly tried to kill several wrestlers in the ring. I guess some guys are blurred when it comes to reality and fantasy.

People say "wrestling is fake"...I dont think they'd want wrestling if it was catch as catch can MMA and not at least a little bit worked.

It's funny how Lesnar, despite being into full contact MMA, probably in the end will have way less injuries than had he stayed a pro wrestler. WWE may have an aggressive anti rx-alchohol and anti drug policy, but that doesnt prevent 300 nights of house show/tv taping wear and tear.

I think the problem is that while the average person thinks wrestling is "fake", they don't understand the trust of the trick. That's why backyard wrestling kids of the late 90's were always getting in serious injuries as they have no clue how it's really done.
And that's why it's refreshing to have all these WWE dvd documentaries where you have current and former superstars talk about how so and so always botched moves, was impossible to work with, etc. I think it was 2002 when Vince allowed wrestlers to appear as themselves in interviews and talk about the ins and outs.

[IndystarX]

Lex will never be risen to the fame he had once because a lot of the wrestling community blame him for Miss Elizabeth's death.

And Goldberg hates the WWE because he felt he was not used properly but he was known for being quite a diva. If I remember the claims I heard, he wouldn't do house shows or oversea shows plus he demanded first class flights to each show plus supposedly demanded a million dollars her appearance?

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IndystarX

Lex will never be risen to the fame he had once because a lot of the wrestling community blame him for Miss Elizabeth's death.

And Goldberg hates the WWE because he felt he was not used properly but he was known for being quite a diva. If I remember the claims I heard, he wouldn't do house shows or oversea shows plus he demanded first class flights to each show plus supposedly demanded a million dollars her appearance?

Oh I didnt know that about Goldberg. Well Lex was still looking good in 2005 when he went to TNA, then got a massively bad spinal injury...became paralyzed, lost all of his muscle...and now works for the WWE as a wellness and spiritual advisor. So in a way he made a comeback in his own way and changed his lifestyle he was leading which is good.

[Mike Riovanes]

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Hulk Hogan(least aesthetically/outside the ring) still looks good.

/facedesk

Ahmed quit because he got injured too much.

Warrior was fired for no-showing. Plus Hulk/Eric Bishoff don't like it went wrestler's take it upon themselves to go above them in fame/glory. They can't stand some one being above them. Hulk made it clear and so did others, Warrior was Hulk Hogan's replacement....

Goldberg actually has been training MMA fighters. And Much like Hogan, he doesn't like to NOT be in the spot light.

Sid I don't know...That Stabbing issue with Arn Anderson did not stop him from going to ECW, and also being champion aftwards....


but...good god, don't ever even Mention Hogan going back to the ring. His matches sucked. He couldn't sell a damn thing against Undertaker before he left WWE. The Rock and Hogan was hard to watch let alone believe. Hogan is done...and needs to retire or go play in traffic.

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Mike Riovanes

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Hulk Hogan(least aesthetically/outside the ring) still looks good.

/facedesk

Ahmed quit because he got injured too much.

Warrior was fired for no-showing. Plus Hulk/Eric Bishoff don't like it went wrestler's take it upon themselves to go above them in fame/glory. They can't stand some one being above them. Hulk made it clear and so did others, Warrior was Hulk Hogan's replacement....

Goldberg actually has been training MMA fighters. And Much like Hogan, he doesn't like to NOT be in the spot light.

Sid I don't know...That Stabbing issue with Arn Anderson did not stop him from going to ECW, and also being champion aftwards....


but...good god, don't ever even Mention Hogan going back to the ring. His matches sucked. He couldn't sell a damn thing against Undertaker before he left WWE. The Rock and Hogan was hard to watch let alone believe. Hogan is done...and needs to retire or go play in traffic.

Oh I wasn't arguing any of these guys *should* go back in the ring. Watching the "Finding Hulk Hogan" documentary was harsh, as it sounded like one off move could leave him a cripple.
I just meant he still looks like 1996 Hulk Hogan...whereas I can't even recognize Scott Hall anymore. Nash still looks good.

TNA is just hard to get into, since they keep focusing on all these hasbeens who can barely perform and are going off name only. I mean, how many times has Ric Flair "retired for good"?

[Juanito Shet]

Well unfortunate events take place and some are just not recognized/recognized enough for their dedication to what they do. Kinda sad in alot of cases, and not so much on others.