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Do you believe 911 was a hoaX?

Yes.	29.8%	[ 31 ]
No	70.2%	[ 73 ]
Total Votes:			[ 104 ]

[Mysty1]

Here are some pictures of the Pentagon, including 'the intact book' referred to in an earlier post.

Link

[Hardy_is_God]

Mysty1

An interesting 'photo study' of the Pentagon. Read the captions and look closely at the photos.

Link

Thank you for your contribution.

[Tsukasa Buddha]

Hardy_is_God

tokarov

Hardy_is_God

tokarov

does anyone else find this offensive especially so close to the anniversary of that tragic event?

your a bunch of tards, move out of your moms basement, get a job and a life, and learn that the ******** government is not all that powerful, if they were that strong they would have stopped the attacks, the fact that the attacks happened does not give them strength but makes them look incompetent

there is no motive for attacking themselves, if there was such a plot if would have been discovered by now from a credible source, not a bunch of college graduate rejects scum of the earth mother ********

grow up

I am sincerely sorry that you feel so offended, it is true that it is a very sensitive matter. The fact of the matter is that around the time of theanniversary is the time when we should be talking about the loss of life that was experianced on that day.
I believe though that those who died deserve to have the truth told about their deaths. You may not share the same opinion on the attacks as we do but the least you could do is a little research instead of just listening to what you are told.

Also, the U.S. government befefited greatly from the events of September 11th. They needed some reason to start a war.

im not so much offended that the matter is sensitive, im more offended and sickened at the stupidity of the so called "americans" who blame their own government for an attack that obviously came from foreign shores

and its not an opinion ITS A GOD DAMN FACT

im not just listening to what i was told, hell i bet most of yall werent even in middle school when this s**t happened, i remember watching the s**t on the TV, i remember my friend khalil moving to new york the year before the attack and not having heard from him in about 3 months (he said he could see the the towers from his school), not only that me living in atlanta, there was a very real possibility of them hitting one of the many sky scrapers or even the CDC, which is a 10 minute drive from virginia highlands, my ******** neighborhood

******** your retarded ideas, this was not done by our own government, the government did not benefit from this s**t in the short or long run, and which part of the government was responsible for the attack? the FBI? bullshit, they couldnt catch a bomber hidden in the ******** mountains for like a decade? the CIA responsible? hell no, they are just as bad, they cant even keep their secret agents a secret anymore. hell, sure wasnt george bush, i mean the man JUST got into office, plus have you seen him, not the most effective president or speaker, i mean how can these left wing idiots make fun of him for being stupid then claim hes the evil mastermind by all that is wrong in our country. hell that leaves FEMA responsible, no wait they cant get their act together either, no wait i got it,. it was the FCC, they were so tired of all the bad language being used in those buildings they had to do something about it

thats it, the FCC is responsible

what are you guys retarded, which branch of government, the government is to big and to diverse just to blame it on that one, giant federal entity

i learned in my political science that there are over 2.5 million federal workers, you mean someone did all this s**t in secret without there being one decent one in the bunch and leaking plans?

HAHAHA

you suck

You make me laugh, the only reason you know any of this stuff is because you saw it on the news, which is government controled, or read it in the newpaper, also government controled, or a book, text book, magazine, anything, all controled by the government.
Also, I refer to them as "Americans" because, that's what the citizens of the United States of America are called, and as I am a Canadian, so what am I supposed to refer to the American's as? To know that you take being called an American offends you intigues me though.

LOL, are you troll or something?

Or maybe this strange worldview is why you believe in conspiracy theories...

But you know, if it's on the internet, it must be true! It's the only thing not government controlled rolleyes .

[Tsukasa Buddha]

Mysty1

Here are some pictures of the Pentagon, including 'the intact book' referred to in an earlier post.

Link

LOL, already debunked those lame claims.

Quote:

Building 7 was NOT hit by an aircraft, and had only minimal fires burning in one small section, yet fell in complete collapse onto its own footprint in freefall time, in classic controlled demolition form.

Wrong.

Quote:

Notice, this is a copy of a United States Army photograph downloaded from their website a couple of days after the event. Notice the hole in the building circled in red. That is the only hole in the building after the attack! The green line is a radius line; it is copied and transposed next to a short firefighter showing the radius of this hole is about six and one half feet. Then notice the beautiful lawn absent any debris from any wreckage from any kind of aircraft. Now ask yourself how a 44 foot tall Boeing 757 could fit through a 13 foot hole in the wall and not break a single window around the hole in the Pentagon. The answer is plain—it’s impossible. The story the world was told is obviously false. There are more photographs on our site that prove this point further and there are links to two well done video presentations that address the obvious facts and cover-ups. This photo makes people take a second look at the situation and notice the impossibility of the story coming from Mr. Bush. Today, he was allegedly campaigning in Pennsylvania with the main message that we are going to make the terrorists pay for the events of that infamous day. We can only hope that is true, considering that he is the head of the only source that could have caused the damage shown above, the United States Government itself.

Fail.

I already posted contrary evidence.

Please do better link dumps next time.

[Hardy_is_God]

Tsukasa Buddha

Hardy_is_God

tokarov

Hardy_is_God

tokarov

does anyone else find this offensive especially so close to the anniversary of that tragic event?

your a bunch of tards, move out of your moms basement, get a job and a life, and learn that the ******** government is not all that powerful, if they were that strong they would have stopped the attacks, the fact that the attacks happened does not give them strength but makes them look incompetent

there is no motive for attacking themselves, if there was such a plot if would have been discovered by now from a credible source, not a bunch of college graduate rejects scum of the earth mother ********

grow up

I am sincerely sorry that you feel so offended, it is true that it is a very sensitive matter. The fact of the matter is that around the time of theanniversary is the time when we should be talking about the loss of life that was experianced on that day.
I believe though that those who died deserve to have the truth told about their deaths. You may not share the same opinion on the attacks as we do but the least you could do is a little research instead of just listening to what you are told.

Also, the U.S. government befefited greatly from the events of September 11th. They needed some reason to start a war.

im not so much offended that the matter is sensitive, im more offended and sickened at the stupidity of the so called "americans" who blame their own government for an attack that obviously came from foreign shores

and its not an opinion ITS A GOD DAMN FACT

im not just listening to what i was told, hell i bet most of yall werent even in middle school when this s**t happened, i remember watching the s**t on the TV, i remember my friend khalil moving to new york the year before the attack and not having heard from him in about 3 months (he said he could see the the towers from his school), not only that me living in atlanta, there was a very real possibility of them hitting one of the many sky scrapers or even the CDC, which is a 10 minute drive from virginia highlands, my ******** neighborhood

******** your retarded ideas, this was not done by our own government, the government did not benefit from this s**t in the short or long run, and which part of the government was responsible for the attack? the FBI? bullshit, they couldnt catch a bomber hidden in the ******** mountains for like a decade? the CIA responsible? hell no, they are just as bad, they cant even keep their secret agents a secret anymore. hell, sure wasnt george bush, i mean the man JUST got into office, plus have you seen him, not the most effective president or speaker, i mean how can these left wing idiots make fun of him for being stupid then claim hes the evil mastermind by all that is wrong in our country. hell that leaves FEMA responsible, no wait they cant get their act together either, no wait i got it,. it was the FCC, they were so tired of all the bad language being used in those buildings they had to do something about it

thats it, the FCC is responsible

what are you guys retarded, which branch of government, the government is to big and to diverse just to blame it on that one, giant federal entity

i learned in my political science that there are over 2.5 million federal workers, you mean someone did all this s**t in secret without there being one decent one in the bunch and leaking plans?

HAHAHA

you suck

You make me laugh, the only reason you know any of this stuff is because you saw it on the news, which is government controled, or read it in the newpaper, also government controled, or a book, text book, magazine, anything, all controled by the government.
Also, I refer to them as "Americans" because, that's what the citizens of the United States of America are called, and as I am a Canadian, so what am I supposed to refer to the American's as? To know that you take being called an American offends you intigues me though.

LOL, are you troll or something?

Or maybe this strange worldview is why you believe in conspiracy theories...

But you know, if it's on the internet, it must be true! It's the only thing not government controlled rolleyes .

I never said that.
Why is my think my views are strange? Because I believe censorship isn't non-exsistant? I don't believe in all conspiracy theories, just those that prove to be true after years of research.

[Tsukasa Buddha]

Mysty1

An interesting 'photo study' of the Pentagon. Read the captions and look closely at the photos.

Link

LOL, my backyard has strips of greener and lighter grass.

And OMG, they compare it to a picture taken a few days later!

Clearly, if a guard rail was there two days later, it must have always been there rolleyes . Hey look, there are trucks there too! Clearly they must have been there too...

OMG teh Gov'ment has PHOTOSHOP!!!

We're doomed!

[Tsukasa Buddha]

Hardy_is_God

Tsukasa Buddha

Hardy_is_God

tokarov

Hardy_is_God

tokarov

does anyone else find this offensive especially so close to the anniversary of that tragic event?

your a bunch of tards, move out of your moms basement, get a job and a life, and learn that the ******** government is not all that powerful, if they were that strong they would have stopped the attacks, the fact that the attacks happened does not give them strength but makes them look incompetent

there is no motive for attacking themselves, if there was such a plot if would have been discovered by now from a credible source, not a bunch of college graduate rejects scum of the earth mother ********

grow up

I am sincerely sorry that you feel so offended, it is true that it is a very sensitive matter. The fact of the matter is that around the time of theanniversary is the time when we should be talking about the loss of life that was experianced on that day.
I believe though that those who died deserve to have the truth told about their deaths. You may not share the same opinion on the attacks as we do but the least you could do is a little research instead of just listening to what you are told.

Also, the U.S. government befefited greatly from the events of September 11th. They needed some reason to start a war.

im not so much offended that the matter is sensitive, im more offended and sickened at the stupidity of the so called "americans" who blame their own government for an attack that obviously came from foreign shores

and its not an opinion ITS A GOD DAMN FACT

im not just listening to what i was told, hell i bet most of yall werent even in middle school when this s**t happened, i remember watching the s**t on the TV, i remember my friend khalil moving to new york the year before the attack and not having heard from him in about 3 months (he said he could see the the towers from his school), not only that me living in atlanta, there was a very real possibility of them hitting one of the many sky scrapers or even the CDC, which is a 10 minute drive from virginia highlands, my ******** neighborhood

******** your retarded ideas, this was not done by our own government, the government did not benefit from this s**t in the short or long run, and which part of the government was responsible for the attack? the FBI? bullshit, they couldnt catch a bomber hidden in the ******** mountains for like a decade? the CIA responsible? hell no, they are just as bad, they cant even keep their secret agents a secret anymore. hell, sure wasnt george bush, i mean the man JUST got into office, plus have you seen him, not the most effective president or speaker, i mean how can these left wing idiots make fun of him for being stupid then claim hes the evil mastermind by all that is wrong in our country. hell that leaves FEMA responsible, no wait they cant get their act together either, no wait i got it,. it was the FCC, they were so tired of all the bad language being used in those buildings they had to do something about it

thats it, the FCC is responsible

what are you guys retarded, which branch of government, the government is to big and to diverse just to blame it on that one, giant federal entity

i learned in my political science that there are over 2.5 million federal workers, you mean someone did all this s**t in secret without there being one decent one in the bunch and leaking plans?

HAHAHA

you suck

You make me laugh, the only reason you know any of this stuff is because you saw it on the news, which is government controled, or read it in the newpaper, also government controled, or a book, text book, magazine, anything, all controled by the government.
Also, I refer to them as "Americans" because, that's what the citizens of the United States of America are called, and as I am a Canadian, so what am I supposed to refer to the American's as? To know that you take being called an American offends you intigues me though.

LOL, are you troll or something?

Or maybe this strange worldview is why you believe in conspiracy theories...

But you know, if it's on the internet, it must be true! It's the only thing not government controlled rolleyes .

I never said that.
Why is my think my views are strange? Because I believe censorship isn't non-exsistant? I don't believe in all conspiracy theories, just those that prove to be true after years of research.

Kay, so what other conspiracies have been "proven true"?

Actually, you must have evidence that the 911 Truth conspiracy is proven true...

Give me your top three pieces of evidence that 911 was a conspiracy!

[Mysty1]

Hardy_is_God

Mysty1

An interesting 'photo study' of the Pentagon. Read the captions and look closely at the photos.

Link

Thank you for your contribution.

It is very difficult for people to believe the much more complex and scary ideas that their own government could be involved in this than to believe the easier to swallow 'story' that outside fanatical 'nut jobs' hate us.

Pocky's list of government connections is fairly accurate as far as I know, though we disagree on the level of involvement that physically facilitated the destruction of the sites.

While there are a handful of sites that claim to 'debunk' the theories, most of these refer back to "official" [dis]information and attempts to 'prove' how such "official" stories "could" be true. Those attempts fail when placed against continuing evidence and scientific testing and analysis of the growing number who find more unanswered questions with every investigation.

Considering not only the tragedy of that day, but the ensuing 'consequences' of war, intrusion into private lives, the desecration of the constitution, and the very obvious lack of cooperation from the administration into investigations, one has admit that that even this type of debate reveals we do NOT know the truth, and we need to keep digging.

[Hardy_is_God]

Mysty1

Hardy_is_God

Mysty1

An interesting 'photo study' of the Pentagon. Read the captions and look closely at the photos.

Link

Thank you for your contribution.

It is very difficult for people to believe the much more complex and scary ideas that their own government could be involved in this than to believe the easier to swallow 'story' that outside fanatical 'nut jobs' hate us.

Pocky's list of government connections is fairly accurate as far as I know, though we disagree on the level of involvement that physically facilitated the destruction of the sites.

While there are a handful of sites that claim to 'debunk' the theories, most of these refer back to "official" [dis]information and attempts to 'prove' how such "official" stories "could" be true. Those attempts fail when placed against continuing evidence and scientific testing and analysis of the growing number who find more unanswered questions with every investigation.

Considering not only the tragedy of that day, but the ensuing 'consequences' of war, intrusion into private lives, the desecration of the constitution, and the very obvious lack of cooperation from the administration into investigations, one has admit that that even this type of debate reveals we do NOT know the truth, and we need to keep digging.

Vey valid point, all we wish to do with this thread is 'raise awareness', as corny as that may sound, we need to try to keep others interested so that they have the opening to their own reasearch.

[Hardy_is_God]

Tsukasa Buddha

Hardy_is_God

Tsukasa Buddha

Hardy_is_God

tokarov

im not so much offended that the matter is sensitive, im more offended and sickened at the stupidity of the so called "americans" who blame their own government for an attack that obviously came from foreign shores

and its not an opinion ITS A GOD DAMN FACT

im not just listening to what i was told, hell i bet most of yall werent even in middle school when this s**t happened, i remember watching the s**t on the TV, i remember my friend khalil moving to new york the year before the attack and not having heard from him in about 3 months (he said he could see the the towers from his school), not only that me living in atlanta, there was a very real possibility of them hitting one of the many sky scrapers or even the CDC, which is a 10 minute drive from virginia highlands, my ******** neighborhood

******** your retarded ideas, this was not done by our own government, the government did not benefit from this s**t in the short or long run, and which part of the government was responsible for the attack? the FBI? bullshit, they couldnt catch a bomber hidden in the ******** mountains for like a decade? the CIA responsible? hell no, they are just as bad, they cant even keep their secret agents a secret anymore. hell, sure wasnt george bush, i mean the man JUST got into office, plus have you seen him, not the most effective president or speaker, i mean how can these left wing idiots make fun of him for being stupid then claim hes the evil mastermind by all that is wrong in our country. hell that leaves FEMA responsible, no wait they cant get their act together either, no wait i got it,. it was the FCC, they were so tired of all the bad language being used in those buildings they had to do something about it

thats it, the FCC is responsible

what are you guys retarded, which branch of government, the government is to big and to diverse just to blame it on that one, giant federal entity

i learned in my political science that there are over 2.5 million federal workers, you mean someone did all this s**t in secret without there being one decent one in the bunch and leaking plans?

HAHAHA

you suck

You make me laugh, the only reason you know any of this stuff is because you saw it on the news, which is government controled, or read it in the newpaper, also government controled, or a book, text book, magazine, anything, all controled by the government.
Also, I refer to them as "Americans" because, that's what the citizens of the United States of America are called, and as I am a Canadian, so what am I supposed to refer to the American's as? To know that you take being called an American offends you intigues me though.

LOL, are you troll or something?

Or maybe this strange worldview is why you believe in conspiracy theories...

But you know, if it's on the internet, it must be true! It's the only thing not government controlled rolleyes .

I never said that.
Why is my think my views are strange? Because I believe censorship isn't non-exsistant? I don't believe in all conspiracy theories, just those that prove to be true after years of research.

Kay, so what other conspiracies have been "proven true"?

Actually, you must have evidence that the 911 Truth conspiracy is proven true...

Give me your top three pieces of evidence that 911 was a conspiracy!

It has been proven true to me through my research, in order for you to take any of this into account, you would have to look into for yourself, as that is all I'm asking you, or anybody else, to do.

[Aramek4]

Yes, but, I fear that you people, (Pockybot's Ilk) will never stop digging.

Even if we uncover the truth, if indeed it is any different from now, you'll keep digging. You're not looking for truth, you're just gnashing until people arrive at your conclusion.

You people aren't as bad as the Intelligent Design morons...but you're not far off.

[Hardy_is_God]

Tsukasa Buddha

Mysty1

An interesting 'photo study' of the Pentagon. Read the captions and look closely at the photos.

Link

LOL, my backyard has strips of greener and lighter grass.

And OMG, they compare it to a picture taken a few days later!

Clearly, if a guard rail was there two days later, it must have always been there rolleyes . Hey look, there are trucks there too! Clearly they must have been there too...

OMG teh Gov'ment has PHOTOSHOP!!!

We're doomed!

Wow, you are extreamly nieve. I'm not even sure how I can help you here, you need to look at the rest of the photo's and read the captions in order to understand.

[Hardy_is_God]

Aramek4

Yes, but, I fear that you people, (Pockybot's Ilk) will never stop digging.

Even if we uncover the truth, if indeed it is any different from now, you'll keep digging. You're not looking for truth, you're just gnashing until people arrive at your conclusion.

You people aren't as bad as the Intelligent Design morons...but you're not far off.

I am looking for the truth but there is no way that we will ever find it because everything that most people trust as "official" documentation of events can be doctored, or complete lies. We will never know.

[tokarov]

Hardy_is_God

tokarov

Hardy_is_God

tokarov

does anyone else find this offensive especially so close to the anniversary of that tragic event?

your a bunch of tards, move out of your moms basement, get a job and a life, and learn that the ******** government is not all that powerful, if they were that strong they would have stopped the attacks, the fact that the attacks happened does not give them strength but makes them look incompetent

there is no motive for attacking themselves, if there was such a plot if would have been discovered by now from a credible source, not a bunch of college graduate rejects scum of the earth mother ********

grow up

I am sincerely sorry that you feel so offended, it is true that it is a very sensitive matter. The fact of the matter is that around the time of theanniversary is the time when we should be talking about the loss of life that was experianced on that day.
I believe though that those who died deserve to have the truth told about their deaths. You may not share the same opinion on the attacks as we do but the least you could do is a little research instead of just listening to what you are told.

Also, the U.S. government befefited greatly from the events of September 11th. They needed some reason to start a war.

im not so much offended that the matter is sensitive, im more offended and sickened at the stupidity of the so called "americans" who blame their own government for an attack that obviously came from foreign shores

and its not an opinion ITS A GOD DAMN FACT

im not just listening to what i was told, hell i bet most of yall werent even in middle school when this s**t happened, i remember watching the s**t on the TV, i remember my friend khalil moving to new york the year before the attack and not having heard from him in about 3 months (he said he could see the the towers from his school), not only that me living in atlanta, there was a very real possibility of them hitting one of the many sky scrapers or even the CDC, which is a 10 minute drive from virginia highlands, my ******** neighborhood

******** your retarded ideas, this was not done by our own government, the government did not benefit from this s**t in the short or long run, and which part of the government was responsible for the attack? the FBI? bullshit, they couldnt catch a bomber hidden in the ******** mountains for like a decade? the CIA responsible? hell no, they are just as bad, they cant even keep their secret agents a secret anymore. hell, sure wasnt george bush, i mean the man JUST got into office, plus have you seen him, not the most effective president or speaker, i mean how can these left wing idiots make fun of him for being stupid then claim hes the evil mastermind by all that is wrong in our country. hell that leaves FEMA responsible, no wait they cant get their act together either, no wait i got it,. it was the FCC, they were so tired of all the bad language being used in those buildings they had to do something about it

thats it, the FCC is responsible

what are you guys retarded, which branch of government, the government is to big and to diverse just to blame it on that one, giant federal entity

i learned in my political science that there are over 2.5 million federal workers, you mean someone did all this s**t in secret without there being one decent one in the bunch and leaking plans?

HAHAHA

you suck

You make me laugh, the only reason you know any of this stuff is because you saw it on the news, which is government controled, or read it in the newpaper, also government controled, or a book, text book, magazine, anything, all controled by the government.
Also, I refer to them as "Americans" because, that's what the citizens of the United States of America are called, and as I am a Canadian, so what am I supposed to refer to the American's as? To know that you take being called an American offends you intigues me though.

Quote:

You make me laugh, the only reason you know any of this stuff is because you saw it on the news, which is government controled, or read it in the newpaper, also government controled, or a book, text book, magazine, anything, all controled by the government.

so what makes you think the s**t you read aint controlled by the government? i mean going back to roswell and area 51 incident, the oldest conspiracy theory ever, well aliens dont exist

but if the government faked the big alien thing to keep the publics attention of what was really going on there (ie a device used to spy on the commies er something) they much rather have people think that it was little green men rather than a serious secret endeavors

Quote:

Also, I refer to them as "Americans" because, that's what the citizens of the United States of America are called, and as I am a Canadian, so what am I supposed to refer to the American's as? To know that you take being called an American offends you intigues me though.

ohhh it all makes sense now, your some ******** teeny bopper canadian sun-uv-a-b***h who thinks they know it all

stay out of discussions regarding my government, b***h about your own country for a while

[Jihad-Joe]

Hardy_is_God

Jihad-Joe

pockybot

agrab0ekim

Darkphantom

Ya see it doesn't quite work like that. You see OP your bullshitting and nobody's buying the crap.

WE CAN SEE THE PLANES!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys41jnL2Elk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0JH1nI3oQY

So you really think that 98% of your own population don't believe there own eyes?

you did not read the first post, he talks about the PENTAGON, not the WTC

No, there's actually disinfo shills who think no planes hit the towers, or that "the Jews" did it

All these people saying al Qaeda wasnt involved, Osama was framed,
Bush did it, no plane hit the pentagon, the hijackers are alive,
etc are parroting disinformation memes and then everyone else just runs back to the official government story of 9/11 without question.

Why is it most liberals who think the government lies about everything, stick by the official "Osama did it alone, end of story" position and think Afghanistan was a "just cause"?

Dude, plane parts at the scene, with logo.

Prove it. Once you can show me evidence of these parts I'll consider you valid.

Woman!

Plane parts here: http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/pentagon1.jpg
Plane parts here: http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/pentagon1a.jpg
Plane parts here: http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/pentagon1b.jpg

The last one has the logo in the background. Shown you before, yet you chose to ignore it. Read my posts again.

Tell me, what evidence would it take for you to believe that your ideas would be incorrect?