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Do you believe 911 was a hoaX?
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| No | |
70.2% | [ 73 ] |
| Total Votes: | [ 104 ] | ||
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Everyone needs to watch the movie Farenheit 9/11 by Michael Moore.
If you have not seen it, go watch it.
If you have not seen it, go watch it.
how is it relevant?
Its really hard to sum up. Sorry. xD
Its about 9/11, the government, the war, elections. Its a real eye opener. It might change your opinions about a lot of topics.. I know it did for me.
Its by Michael Moore btw. xP I know this doesn't really help...
i have seen it, but it has nothing about 9/11 being inside
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Everyone needs to watch the movie Farenheit 9/11 by Michael Moore.
If you have not seen it, go watch it.
If you have not seen it, go watch it.
how is it relevant?
Its really hard to sum up. Sorry. xD
Its about 9/11, the government, the war, elections. Its a real eye opener. It might change your opinions about a lot of topics.. I know it did for me.
Its by Michael Moore btw. xP I know this doesn't really help...
i have seen it, but it has nothing about 9/11 being inside
Meh, its hard to put into words, but it would still help people to gain a better understanding of the events cirrculating 9/11 and what measures the government did take ( ._.) etc...
Its really enlightening and full of the truth. I'm sure if more people watched it they would not be so eager to believe the alternate version of 9/11 which just so happens to be pointing a finger at the government for wrong doing. They did a lot wrong.. but they didn't plan the attacks.
Do you see what I'm trying to say? D: sweatdrop neutral
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Everyone needs to watch the movie Farenheit 9/11 by Michael Moore.
If you have not seen it, go watch it.
If you have not seen it, go watch it.
how is it relevant?
Its really hard to sum up. Sorry. xD
Its about 9/11, the government, the war, elections. Its a real eye opener. It might change your opinions about a lot of topics.. I know it did for me.
Its by Michael Moore btw. xP I know this doesn't really help...
i have seen it, but it has nothing about 9/11 being inside
Meh, its hard to put into words, but it would still help people to gain a better understanding of the events cirrculating 9/11 and what measures the government did take ( ._.) etc...
Its really enlightening and full of the truth. I'm sure if more people watched it they would not be so eager to believe the alternate version of 9/11 which just so happens to be pointing a finger at the government for wrong doing. They did a lot wrong.. but they didn't plan the attacks.
Do you see what I'm trying to say? D: sweatdrop neutral
they manipulated a new situation to their advantages
how is that different than anything else
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You also have to be twice a moron to put any worth in that.
The only respect you get out of me is that you are American and you want Ron Paul as President.
You will get more if you open your mind to the truth and stop believing this Brainwashing BULLSHIT that the government keeps feeding us! Come on! Do you really think the MEDIA is here to help you?
The Media is the number one controlled outlet of news in the country! If you want any REAL truth you have to look outside your country. globalresearch.ca is a great source, being in Canada, a neutral nation, which has no reason to blackout the media.
Then you truly think that a PLANE can take out A TOWER about 50 times the size of that plane! How do you explain it? Really?
I can give you SO many facts about why it WOULDN'T happen, so give me some concrete, undeniable facts why the Towers should have fallen, left molten metal, had sparks coming out the sides, EXPLODED, collapsed straight down, collapsed at free fall, had many explosions reported by firemen, left PULVERIZED CONCRETE, only burned for an hour before collapsing (A case in Spain had a building burnning all the way through the night until morning, the whole building on fire, but still stood. Explain that to me.)
Riddle me that, batman!
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You also have to be twice a moron to put any worth in that.
The only respect you get out of me is that you are American and you want Ron Paul as President.
You will get more if you open your mind to the truth and stop believing this Brainwashing BULLSHIT that the government keeps feeding us! Come on! Do you really think the MEDIA is here to help you?
The Media is the number one controlled outlet of news in the country! If you want any REAL truth you have to look outside your country. globalresearch.ca is a great source, being in Canada, a neutral nation, which has no reason to blackout the media.
Then you truly think that a PLANE can take out A TOWER about 50 times the size of that plane! How do you explain it? Really?
I can give you SO many facts about why it WOULDN'T happen, so give me some concrete, undeniable facts why the Towers should have fallen, left molten metal, had sparks coming out the sides, EXPLODED, collapsed straight down, collapsed at free fall, had many explosions reported by firemen, left PULVERIZED CONCRETE, only burned for an hour before collapsing (A case in Spain had a building burnning all the way through the night until morning, the whole building on fire, but still stood. Explain that to me.)
Riddle me that, batman!
i notice you only reply to somebody all of us attacked
how about responding to more logical responces
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(( Let's debate. I'll answer all further questions. But if I find that the questions are either flaming this thread or the creator in anyway. They will be reported. If the person who I am responding to feels like they should cuss me and my opinion. Then they will be reported. Alright bring on the debate. Oh and I agree with the whole thing and I am a close friend of the threads creator. ))
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You also have to be twice a moron to put any worth in that.
The only respect you get out of me is that you are American and you want Ron Paul as President.
You will get more if you open your mind to the truth and stop believing this Brainwashing BULLSHIT that the government keeps feeding us! Come on! Do you really think the MEDIA is here to help you?
The Media is the number one controlled outlet of news in the country! If you want any REAL truth you have to look outside your country. globalresearch.ca is a great source, being in Canada, a neutral nation, which has no reason to blackout the media.
Then you truly think that a PLANE can take out A TOWER about 50 times the size of that plane! How do you explain it? Really?
I can give you SO many facts about why it WOULDN'T happen, so give me some concrete, undeniable facts why the Towers should have fallen, left molten metal, had sparks coming out the sides, EXPLODED, collapsed straight down, collapsed at free fall, had many explosions reported by firemen, left PULVERIZED CONCRETE, only burned for an hour before collapsing (A case in Spain had a building burnning all the way through the night until morning, the whole building on fire, but still stood. Explain that to me.)
Riddle me that, batman!
i notice you only reply to somebody all of us attacked
how about responding to more logical responces
Because I quoted the post which brought me straight to the post screen, and I felt like posting my idea before I lost the thought.
Could you tell me why you quote and respond to a post which, apparently, agrees with you, and then bash it just because they wanted to post their opinion on a subject related to the first couple of posts? I don't have the time to sit here and just go through all the pages. I have homework and typing to do (Computer Science takes up a lot of time) and so I only have a spare amount of time, which is why I posted to the post which,to me, is the epitome of the ignorant side of the debate.
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Now that that's out, let's get on to more pressing matters. I found a lot of videos that may be of interest to EVERYONE in this thread, even the other side. I suggest you watch them with an open mind that ANYTHING happened, either the planes did it, or it was inside, and then after watching these movies, see if they change your mind to being an inside job.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AMEX84uDe_I
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Jl1VIhdpl4c
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IX9gdRST6zM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=La0LOG2NBM4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7_E4N5YIycI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=q8XToX7aSdg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-F0MnfzkOhM
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- Posted: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 07:18:48 +0000
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does anyone else find this offensive especially so close to the anniversary of that tragic event?
your a bunch of tards, move out of your moms basement, get a job and a life, and learn that the ******** government is not all that powerful, if they were that strong they would have stopped the attacks, the fact that the attacks happened does not give them strength but makes them look incompetent
there is no motive for attacking themselves, if there was such a plot if would have been discovered by now from a credible source, not a bunch of college graduate rejects scum of the earth mother ********
grow up
your a bunch of tards, move out of your moms basement, get a job and a life, and learn that the ******** government is not all that powerful, if they were that strong they would have stopped the attacks, the fact that the attacks happened does not give them strength but makes them look incompetent
there is no motive for attacking themselves, if there was such a plot if would have been discovered by now from a credible source, not a bunch of college graduate rejects scum of the earth mother ********
grow up
I am guessing you don't know how governments gain control of the populace?
Fear is the single most powerful weapon anyone has. The Government of the USA used it to give them reason to invade the Middle East and then move to Iraq.
The motive was to scare the populace into submission, then blame someone outside the country, then, go invade/take care of the threat, then go do what they want, basically.
Look into power and the way it corrupts...then you will get an idea ofor what I am saying.
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Xenos Mortium
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saHs6J0OXVI
OMG, the same thing happened here!
OMG, the same thing happened here!
Why Xenos, why?!
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Everything in this thread has already been debunked. I've read conspiracy theories ten times larger than this, covering more points, mind you, and they have all been debunked. You have no idea what you are talking about, and are looking at a very narrow area of the events.
That exit hole for the plane's pretty big, even if it looks small there. The Pentagon has extremely thick cement walls every now and then, in layers, and the plane blast actually went pretty far through it. Eye witness reports? Well listen, it wasn't circling a 50 meter radius here. When was the last time you managed to track a plane flying over a range of miles upon miles over an hour or more?
That exit hole for the plane's pretty big, even if it looks small there. The Pentagon has extremely thick cement walls every now and then, in layers, and the plane blast actually went pretty far through it. Eye witness reports? Well listen, it wasn't circling a 50 meter radius here. When was the last time you managed to track a plane flying over a range of miles upon miles over an hour or more?
When they invented RADAR!
You do know that radar reports position every few seconds right? So over hours, they would track that whole thing...
But, if you don't believe THAT, explain how that plane, which is HUGE mind you, entirely miss a wire fence, go a few feet above the grass, and leave that big of a hole (It really isn't the hole that tipped us off), and have absolutely no evidence of a plane ever being there? If the plane hit the wall, their would be a whole section missing, with a large gaping hole, threatening to make it a Quadrilateral. How come there is only ONE really bad video shown? If the Pentagon is the most guarded building in the US or at least one of, there should be HUNDREDS of angles of that plane coming in, yet they only show it from a gas station from across the street.
Why did they hit the WEST wall, the wall which had just gone over extensive repairs and wasn't even inhabited? To limit amount of casualties, they didn't really want anyone to die in that crash, but only show that it wasn't the government by destroying a piece of government property. They failed, however.
And back to guiding the plane over a fence and over grass to leave that small of a hole, even the most skilled pilot would tell you he couldn't do it. Those jetliners are so huge they can't be maneuvered as easily as a regular jet.
Think of a jetliner as a....Semi, and a jet as a Motorcycle or car. A Semi can't take extremely sharp turn like cars or motorcycles can, at least with a lot of skill, so what makes you think that some fresh graduate from pilot school will be able to?
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Ok, after going through the past few pages I have gathered a few quotes and hopefully it isn't too confusing...
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What the duece man? You're a douchbag. Where'd you get this info. It's all lies. You are a lie. Except that you're a douche. 9/11 was done by towl-heads. Not the gov. Get your info right next time. And from a credible source. In the meantime go suck yourself.
I noticed he got reportedm but I have to explain something here...This just shows how bad the media brainwashes us, to be extremely racist against a culture which the majority aren't terrorist supporters. I bet you can find a large amount of people who live over in the Middle East who despise any terrorist who lives there.
That was the History Channel dear, and it's already been proven to be biased.
Thank you. Finally someone who knows that the media isn't the greatest source for information.
And yes, I know media encompasses any way you get information, including internet, but I don't say the internet is always correct.
The best way to figure out the facts is by being educated in the principles behind the events.
Has anyone here taken a Physics class, which talks about force, gravity, and the laws of physics?
I can tell you right now, that just an introductory High School class can tell you that this whole thing is wrong. Demolition and other such things are the only plausible way it could have happened.
You want facts? You have to look for them yourself, and not take other people's word. Many of the Bush supporters only take their information from News sources.
You want to ask me anything pertaining to it? I can probably answer it and show why the government lied and possibly planned it.
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The Ghost Lord
What the duece man? You're a douchbag. Where'd you get this info. It's all lies. You are a lie. Except that you're a douche. 9/11 was done by towl-heads. Not the gov. Get your info right next time. And from a credible source. In the meantime go suck yourself.
I noticed he got reportedm but I have to explain something here...This just shows how bad the media brainwashes us, to be extremely racist against a culture which the majority aren't terrorist supporters. I bet you can find a large amount of people who live over in the Middle East who despise any terrorist who lives there.
Scarlet Soul
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Actually, they had a special on the Discovery Channel that disproved everything on that website. Funny how things like that work out.
I'll see if I can't find a spot on their website that includes all the research.
I'll see if I can't find a spot on their website that includes all the research.
That was the History Channel dear, and it's already been proven to be biased.
Thank you. Finally someone who knows that the media isn't the greatest source for information.
And yes, I know media encompasses any way you get information, including internet, but I don't say the internet is always correct.
The best way to figure out the facts is by being educated in the principles behind the events.
Has anyone here taken a Physics class, which talks about force, gravity, and the laws of physics?
I can tell you right now, that just an introductory High School class can tell you that this whole thing is wrong. Demolition and other such things are the only plausible way it could have happened.
You want facts? You have to look for them yourself, and not take other people's word. Many of the Bush supporters only take their information from News sources.
You want to ask me anything pertaining to it? I can probably answer it and show why the government lied and possibly planned it.
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Actually, they had a special on the Discovery Channel that disproved everything on that website. Funny how things like that work out.
I'll see if I can't find a spot on their website that includes all the research.
I'll see if I can't find a spot on their website that includes all the research.
That was the History Channel dear, and it's already been proven to be biased.
The History channel itself is biased?
Yet they always have pro UFO specials, LOL
Pritchard
Everything in this thread has already been debunked. I've read conspiracy theories ten times larger than this, covering more points, mind you, and they have all been debunked. You have no idea what you are talking about, and are looking at a very narrow area of the events.
That exit hole for the plane's pretty big, even if it looks small there. The Pentagon has extremely thick cement walls every now and then, in layers, and the plane blast actually went pretty far through it. Eye witness reports? Well listen, it wasn't circling a 50 meter radius here. When was the last time you managed to track a plane flying over a range of miles upon miles over an hour or more?
That exit hole for the plane's pretty big, even if it looks small there. The Pentagon has extremely thick cement walls every now and then, in layers, and the plane blast actually went pretty far through it. Eye witness reports? Well listen, it wasn't circling a 50 meter radius here. When was the last time you managed to track a plane flying over a range of miles upon miles over an hour or more?
I agree, a lot of the idiot theories regarding 9/11 are fallacies..
that doesnt mean for a second however, there arent many unanswered questions and some sort of coverup
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Everyone needs to watch the movie Farenheit 9/11 by Michael Moore.
If you have not seen it, go watch it.
If you have not seen it, go watch it.
Why? That guy is a proven liar and falsifier of "truth"
In Roger and Me, he lies about not being able to get an interview with Roger Smith. He lies about the amount of resistance to GM leaving. He takes all the credit for thousands of striking union workers.
He actually films fake scenes and splices them with clips of Nightline and speeches to make false reality
In Bowling For Columbine, oh man...he does so many dirty tricks.
He totally lies about Charlton Heston, and tries to paint him and gun owners as monsters.
He set up a bank to make it seem like he just walked out with a gun.
He lied about Charlton Heston's appearence at an NRA rally.
And with Fahrenheit 9/11, he definately did not cover the real hardcore 9/11 facts...tho the Bush/bin Laden family stuff was good.
Werent ya just saying how conspiracy theorists were not telling the truth?
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i have seen it, but it has nothing about 9/11 being inside
Meh, its hard to put into words, but it would still help people to gain a better understanding of the events cirrculating 9/11 and what measures the government did take ( ._.) etc...
Its really enlightening and full of the truth. I'm sure if more people watched it they would not be so eager to believe the alternate version of 9/11 which just so happens to be pointing a finger at the government for wrong doing. They did a lot wrong.. but they didn't plan the attacks.
Do you see what I'm trying to say? D: sweatdrop neutral
Youre pretty much saying people like me who dont believe the official government version of 9/11 are full of crap, but that we need to see proven liar Michael Moore's version to "Accept" the government version...even tho Fahrenheit is an attack against the government?
Ohhhhkay.
I got a WAY better documentary, and not only does it not have any fake theories or twisted facts...its endoresed by a lot of the families.
I urge EVERYONE who thinks weve been told the full truth about 9/11
to watch "Press For Truth"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3865048042993700360
It's 88 minutes...watch that(its wayyyy more powerful and gripping than that whitewash Fahrenheit) and you'll see why its not a "Bush did it" or "Osama did it" situation
agrab0ekim
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Everyone needs to watch the movie Farenheit 9/11 by Michael Moore.
If you have not seen it, go watch it.
If you have not seen it, go watch it.
how is it relevant?
Its really hard to sum up. Sorry. xD
Its about 9/11, the government, the war, elections. Its a real eye opener. It might change your opinions about a lot of topics.. I know it did for me.
Its by Michael Moore btw. xP I know this doesn't really help...
i have seen it, but it has nothing about 9/11 being inside
Covering up a friend's(Saudi) involvement in 9/11 isnt inside?
