ThomasFyreClaw
Lord Fates
Bunny--man
WWII was a fascinating war, truely our best generation fought in that. I hear things that if we waited another six months to invade France, then the outcome would have almost certainly been entirely different. But I'm not quite sure how true that is...
The result are pretty simple. Russia would have pushed on passed Berlin taking a good bit of the rest of Europe. How much is debatable, but the war wouldn't have lasted much longer since the turning point in Europe was when the Russians stopped Hitler's advance and then pushed him back with casulties that make America's look like a bruise on the arm.
Casulties which probebly could have been avoided with better tactics other than brute force sending waves and waves of men until your enemy is out of ammo is not a good stratagy. Hell the only reason Russia was able to take push hitler back was becuase hitler was an idiot and din't prep his troops to deal with the Russian climate. Not to say I support hitler and all But Russia just got lucky that time.
As someone who has studied history formally I have to disagree. Russia didn't get lucky, Germany got lucky it was so successful for as long as it was. Germany sewed its own doom by not finishing off Britain first before it attacked Russia.
Never you mind your American history books or your Steven Spielberg movies, World War II was won on the steppes of Russia. More people died in the battle of Stalingard then the US lost in the entire war. That whole front was a sickening bloodbath of which the Holocaust was only the most extreme example. Forty or fifty million people killed altogether. They're still finding mass graves today.
The American stereotype of the European is a kind of sissified art collector who eats chocolates while American marines protect them from Communism. I would say the typical American is a carefree cowboy who hasn't seen war in their own country for more than 100 years, and even in the Civil War really only the South suffered.
Whereas Europeans are very quiet, very refined, but every fifty years or so they undergo orgies of bloodletting so severe and so violent we Americans simply won't understand until the nukes rain down on our heads.
