Why isn't the TEA Party protesting ACTA?

Are you a TEA Party member, & if so do you appose or support ACTA?

I'm a TEA Party member who apposes ACTA	7.1%	[ 2 ]
I'm a TEA Party Member who supports ACTA	0.0%	[ 0 ]
I'm NOT a TEA Party member, but I appose ACTA	78.6%	[ 22 ]
I'm NOT a TEA Party member, but I support ACTA	7.1%	[ 2 ]
What's ACTA & what's the TEA Party?	7.1%	[ 2 ]
Total Votes:			[ 28 ]

[MistressOfTheShadows]

Seriously though... since they claim to be a small government grass-roots movement who fights for the constitution & our rights as Americans, how come I've heard no outrage against SOPA, PIPA, or ACTA?

Why haven't there been any rallies by the TEA Party out there protesting these bills that would further extend the governments reach into our lives & pose a further threat to our privacy by turning websites into online police that would watch our every move we make on the internet & control what we can & can not view, post, our share with friends online!

Where is the outrage against that?

Is the TEA Party unaware of ACTA or apathetic twords it because they are mostly old &
computer illiterate people?

Or do they actually ¨support″it because they are on the side of Hollywood & the music & movie industries who are greedy enough to promote internet censorship & trample our constitutional rights just to avoid loosing a few bucks from illegal downloads that eat up only a fraction of their profits?

ACTA is meant to control piracy & prevent counterfeiting & copyright infringement, but tramples our rights to freedom of choice, freedom of speech, & freedom of expression! Under this law it's possible that a kid could get in trouble for posting a drawing they did of Micky Mouse on a website, a couple could get sued sharing a home-video of their wedding with a copyrighted song playing in the background or someone could even get arrested for forwarding an e-mail with copyrighted images in it like a comic-strip scan or a photo, or get arrested cuz they ripped a song from a CD & E-mailed it to someone they thought might like it! It's written much too loosely! I've been signing petitions against this ACTA bill & sending links like the ones on this page to everyone I know. Please sign them if you haven't already!

& please encourage members of the TEA Party to do the same & to read up on ACTA discuss it at rallies & hold active protests against it! I want you to do this because ACTA is seriously bad news, will effect businesses, food, & medicine & will have global reach & be like Big Brother & make our world-wide web like the internet in communist countries like China & North Korea! But if we can get a well known, loud, passionate, & very well organized grass-roots movement like the TEA Party behind the cause of stopping it then it's as good as dead!

[MistressOfTheShadows]

I'm actually a Hardcore Left-Wing Radical Liberal Democrat, & normally I fight against the TEA Party & side with big government, but I'm a "fair-weather friend" on this issue.

I'd be willing to form a temporary truce/alliance with the TEA Party if they would be willing to get behind the cause of stopping ACTA.

I feel this is an opportunity to unite the nation & bridge the ever widening gap between the left & the right. Cuz this isn't a liberal issue or a conservative issue, but an issue that both sides can agree on. So why not?

I don't pretend to understand the TEA Party & what they stand for... but from what I've seen I know this much.

They are good at organizing a group, they enjoy protesting, they are loud, proud, opinionated, strong willed, hard-headed, & passionate & they claim to stand for freedom, the constitution, small government, & the America way. So I think they would be a strong ally here if they stood up against ACTA & really bashed the heck out of it, fear mongered people away from it with words laced with paranoia, & shamed supporters for being in favor if it.

[MistressOfTheShadows]

I actually posted this in the SOPA forum too, but thought I'd give it a whirl here to see what a different crowd with opinions from a more political side think.

[Director Danguy]

Simple: They don't actually give a s**t. They barely understand this "Internet" thing and are as Big Government as you are, just over different issues.

[Je Nique vos Merdiers]

Because the astroturf benefactors didn't pay anyone to care.

[MistressOfTheShadows]

Director Danguy

Simple: They don't actually give a s**t. They barely understand this "Internet" thing and are as Big Government as you are, just over different issues.

Liberals & Conservatives

...derp....

Seriously though.. they are wrong though. Big Government shouldn't work for the rich, it should work for the poor! 3nodding

[MistressOfTheShadows]

Je Nique vos Merdiers

Because the astroturf benefactors didn't pay anyone to care.

If anything, they support ACTA because from what I heard Hollywood actually is bribing candidates to support ACTA.. logically the TEA Party wants to support whoever gives them the most money because of being greedy bastards if they won't even talk about ACTA..

[Old Blue Collar Joe]

MistressOfTheShadows

Je Nique vos Merdiers

Because the astroturf benefactors didn't pay anyone to care.

If anything, they support ACTA because from what I heard Hollywood actually is bribing candidates to support ACTA.. logically the TEA Party wants to support whoever gives them the most money because of being greedy bastards if they won't even talk about ACTA..

What is the problem with protecting intellectual property from people who decide "I'd really like to see X, but I am not interested in paying for it'.
Not one person has given even a remotely decent answer to this.

[N3bu]

Old Blue Collar Joe

MistressOfTheShadows

Je Nique vos Merdiers

Because the astroturf benefactors didn't pay anyone to care.

If anything, they support ACTA because from what I heard Hollywood actually is bribing candidates to support ACTA.. logically the TEA Party wants to support whoever gives them the most money because of being greedy bastards if they won't even talk about ACTA..

What is the problem with protecting intellectual property from people who decide "I'd really like to see X, but I am not interested in paying for it'.
Not one person has given even a remotely decent answer to this.

How about the lack of competition?

"Since I'm, the only person legally allowed to sell this movie, I'll charge $20 on a disc that cost me 5c to produce!"

It's a little more convoluted then that, but the truth is the same, copy-write laws have allowed the media industry to remain uncompetitive in the face of changing technology and ignore consumer demands. The minute they decided to pretty much ignore consumer demand (consumer is king) for cheap instant direct download to up to date material, they left themselves open to attack from industries that would provide that product, even if current law declares these industries evil.

Copy-write may be a "great idea" but at the moment it just being used to distort the market.

[Old Blue Collar Joe]

N3bu

Old Blue Collar Joe

MistressOfTheShadows

Je Nique vos Merdiers

Because the astroturf benefactors didn't pay anyone to care.

If anything, they support ACTA because from what I heard Hollywood actually is bribing candidates to support ACTA.. logically the TEA Party wants to support whoever gives them the most money because of being greedy bastards if they won't even talk about ACTA..

What is the problem with protecting intellectual property from people who decide "I'd really like to see X, but I am not interested in paying for it'.
Not one person has given even a remotely decent answer to this.

How about the lack of competition?

"Since I'm, the only person legally allowed to sell this movie, I'll charge $20 on a disc that cost me 5c to produce!"

It's a little more convoluted then that, but the truth is the same, copy-write laws have allowed the media industry to remain uncompetitive in the face of changing technology and ignore consumer demands. The minute they decided to pretty much ignore consumer demand (consumer is king) for cheap instant direct download to up to date material, they left themselves open to attack from industries that would provide that product, even if current law declares these industries evil.

Copy-write may be a "great idea" but at the moment it just being used to distort the market.

That's utter bullshit and the battle cry of the 'we want it free' crowd. Prices on movies in visual mediums haven't changed in quite a long time. VHS was similar in price to current prices for DVD's. BluRay costs more because it's a relatively new medium, but they usually also include a DVD copy, which gives one the ability to have it playing on two separate devices at once.
If someone wants to see something for free, go to the library or watch one of the free movies they can watch that aren't copy protected.
Why haven't prices dropped? Because, in spite of what you wish were true, consumer's are still willing to pay the prices being asked, because the majority do NOT find them over priced.

[The Infamous Unami]

The TEA Party did voice it's opposition to SOPA. Just Saiyan...

[God Emperor Akhenaton]

Because the Tea party supports a plutocracy.

[N3bu]

Old Blue Collar Joe

N3bu

Old Blue Collar Joe

MistressOfTheShadows

Je Nique vos Merdiers

Because the astroturf benefactors didn't pay anyone to care.

If anything, they support ACTA because from what I heard Hollywood actually is bribing candidates to support ACTA.. logically the TEA Party wants to support whoever gives them the most money because of being greedy bastards if they won't even talk about ACTA..

What is the problem with protecting intellectual property from people who decide "I'd really like to see X, but I am not interested in paying for it'.
Not one person has given even a remotely decent answer to this.

How about the lack of competition?

"Since I'm, the only person legally allowed to sell this movie, I'll charge $20 on a disc that cost me 5c to produce!"

It's a little more convoluted then that, but the truth is the same, copy-write laws have allowed the media industry to remain uncompetitive in the face of changing technology and ignore consumer demands. The minute they decided to pretty much ignore consumer demand (consumer is king) for cheap instant direct download to up to date material, they left themselves open to attack from industries that would provide that product, even if current law declares these industries evil.

Copy-write may be a "great idea" but at the moment it just being used to distort the market.

That's utter bullshit and the battle cry of the 'we want it free' crowd. Prices on movies in visual mediums haven't changed in quite a long time. VHS was similar in price to current prices for DVD's. BluRay costs more because it's a relatively new medium, but they usually also include a DVD copy, which gives one the ability to have it playing on two separate devices at once.
If someone wants to see something for free, go to the library or watch one of the free movies they can watch that aren't copy protected.
Why haven't prices dropped? Because, in spite of what you wish were true, consumer's are still willing to pay the prices being asked, because the majority do NOT find them over priced.

It's the only thing they can pay because there is no competition. If we want to watch a particular movie there is only one legal source, and we have to accept that cost.

Consumers don't exist at the behest of the industry, the industry exists at the behest of the consumed, it exists for the purpose of fulfilling consumers wants and desires. The new generation who has grown up with Internet and has been a huge consumer of media for the past 10 -20 years wants to the ability to directly download media quick and cheap, the media industry can easily afford to provide this service and if certain companies were smart they would jump on it quickly to make more then enough money. I as a consumer would willing buy digital media for direct download at a reasonable price, but since the industry refuses to accept this reality I only have two choices, drive to the store and overpay for DVDs, or get a pirated copy directly for free.

But they make far better money per product by blockading that industry and trying to force DVDs, Blue-ray and cinema sales, so they use intellectual property as a shield against market evolution and cry to the government to try and shut it down. It's ******** pathetic and it only continues to annoy consumers who have to pay for physical media (in an increasingly digital age) if they want to view anything.

Just because your old and want evolution to go backwards doesn't mean it should.

[Yuki the Third]

Because IOKIYAR

[razorsarz]

People are flipping out over this. On the other hand don't seen to give a crap about the bill that Obama signed News Eve that could put people in jail for life anyways.