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Peter Dow
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Peter Dow
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Dow,

Get a job,.

So I can pay taxes to a state which denies the freedoms and rights of the people?

So you are inviting me to become a lackey of the evil UK state, like you are perhaps?

Thanks, but no thanks.
Wait then how do you get money User Image

An off-topic post from Coyote de Venganza I see.

As was Invictus_88's interjection off topic.

Off topic, diversionary and an attempt to troll a serious topic to death.

Worse, this line of comments is "ad hominem" - an attack to the man - never mind what the man says, rubbish the man's character and people won't listen to his viewpoints, no matter how valid they are.

So it is down and dirty political tactics. The politics of the sewer. Don't fall into that sewer because you will stink if you do.

I don't dwell down there with rats like Invictus_88 and if anyone wants to ask me personal questions then I suggest they PM me.

Meanwhile try to dignify yourself by giving consideration to those poor victims of the church bombings in Nigeria.

It is absolutely shocking that people can get so easily diverted from such serious matters. Disgusting really.
So much for no answer.
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Very poor taste, Dow.

When you are fighting a war on terror, good "taste" is not a weapon of choice.

Whereas the truth, in identifying the enemy is a weapon of choice however distasteful that is to those who have been duped by the enemy.

If my truth makes the Duke of Rothesay's d**k in your mouth taste not so sweet then spit it out or bite down hard.
Making fatuous comments about innocent people being slaughtered and tying it in with your incoherent ramblings about the Queen is not fighting terrorism. You're just deluded or trolling; methinks deluded.

I would refer you to the kind advice offered by Invictus. You clearly have to much spare time on your hands.
Aren't these guys like, terrorists and stuff, so killing them although they are Technically self proclaimed Christians is like, idk, okay...?
Peter Dow
The war on terror is a quick and easy win but only if our armies listen to good leadership. If they don't listen, the war on terror is long, difficult and with many innocent victims being killed, sadly.
You know, Dow, I actually considered you fairly tolerable until this very sentence.

Now I frankly think you're a waste of good air. Sorry for the depth to which I sink in making that comment but the ignorance of it your own incredibly profound. You heap the blame for worldwide dissaffection upon armed services for what? The validation or your own idealisms? You speak of an unpredictable and, as accepted by all men of reason, undefeatable concept. Please, show a sebalance of sanity or intellect before asking for amorphous "good leadership".
Let alone this, your OP rightly ruffled feathers. As it should with royalists; republicans or the simply non-partisan. You have outright blamed a horrific act upon the Royal Family with absolutely no proof. Thus much devalidating and deprecating the actuality of the situation. An act disgusting at the least.
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The UK has good relations with the Saudi monarchy and are not at war with the Saudi royals, are not taking out their satellites, not supporting democratic republican revolution against the Saudi royals, are trading with the Saudis etc.

Here, to shriek and complain that the UK doesn't act to change Saudi Arabia, beggaring for war. War to do what? Displace a monarchy? Sure, I can see the merit by your own ideals but one must be pragmatic as opposed to completely stupid. Such invasion would be illegal by any international convention. Let alone you would see us attacked by other nations for the act itself. An consequence making such action in vain. Further yet, it must be highly considered that the status quo of Saudi Arabia could not exist without there being a populace support. This point seems especially prevelent in the wake of the Arab Springs. Especially Syria and Libya wherein one sees citizens standing up to armed forces. There is literally no casus belli to justify your statements here except the idealism that a monarchy must always be removed. And even then that's ideology for ideology's sake - frankly moribund.
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As far as the Japanese Emperor goes by standing in the way of a Japanese republic and president, the Japanese emperor is to blame for the Fukushima nuclear power plant disaster because a Japanese president could well have acted to dismiss the Japanese government that was allowing such poor management of this nuclear power facility.
No, he couldn't. Because a president would not possess the neccessary power of divination to forsee a huge natural disaster would break a nuclear power station (please, avoid power plant - it is an Americanism and a silly one; buildings are not plants). The reality is that the government acted well within its best capability on analysis; excluding perhaps overt posturing on the safety of water in the area which it later seemed they weren't entirely of faith in.
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I mean what would be the point in monarchs and dictators employing a "secret" agent who names his or her employer? It would not be a secret if it is obvious to everyone who the agent is working for.
If one is to entertain your frankly fallacious logic for five minutes; one struggles. You claim for secret agents being secret to develop a reason to claim, without any proof; secret agents exist in Riyadh. A further point stands; if they're secret, what mercurialism grants you the special power and right proof to claim their existence and it must be so? Sources are demanded strongly.
Sources are demanded to all your claims in this thread. Or at least a valid and developed mechanism to show that a president could overthrow international dictat, logic and self-preserving reason to enter war with a nation on ideology.

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Thanks High Gravity, I can always rely on you to keep the debate at a quality level here on Gaia.
It's not a debate if it's with yourself in a dialogue of sycophphancy.

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You will condemn one more Condi fan out of millions.
No, we will condemn you because frankly, without any adhom or bitterness to this; I think you have a clinical obsession with the woman.

Ahh, that was much needed to relieve oneself. Dow, once again - your lack of sanity has provided me an easy venting target.
Peter Dow
Coyote de Venganza
Peter Dow
Invictus_88
Dow,

Get a job,.

So I can pay taxes to a state which denies the freedoms and rights of the people?

So you are inviting me to become a lackey of the evil UK state, like you are perhaps?

Thanks, but no thanks.
Wait then how do you get money User Image

An off-topic post from Coyote de Venganza I see.

As was Invictus_88's interjection off topic.

Off topic, diversionary and an attempt to troll a serious topic to death.

Worse, this line of comments is "ad hominem" - an attack to the man - never mind what the man says, rubbish the man's character and people won't listen to his viewpoints, no matter how valid they are.

So it is down and dirty political tactics. The politics of the sewer. Don't fall into that sewer because you will stink if you do.

I don't dwell down there with rats like Invictus_88 and if anyone wants to ask me personal questions then I suggest they PM me.

Meanwhile try to dignify yourself by giving consideration to those poor victims of the church bombings in Nigeria.

It is absolutely shocking that people can get so easily diverted from such serious matters. Disgusting really.


Verganza. What Dow means is, he can't be bothered to work, and so owes his financial security to the British Government, which in its credulousness offers free money to the workshy in the naive belief that it might (somehow) promote a work ethic.

Dow not having had gainful employment for some years, yet assiduously spamming his copy+paste conspiracy theory bollocks on a wide range of forums, is a fine example of the flaws in the government benefit system.
Lieutenant_Charon
As reigning Emperor of ED-P I declare this thread a impromptu THUNDERDOME.

The contestants:

Scottish Nationalist and Firebrand PETER DOW

vs.

Hardcore Britisher and Imperialist INVICTUS_88

ENTERTAIN ME.

This could be as good as that one thread on Ireland where all the UK people were tearing each other to pieces.


Sorry I missed this. I have a demanding job, so was away in gainful employment.

Bad luck, Dow.
Invictus_88
Lieutenant_Charon
As reigning Emperor of ED-P I declare this thread a impromptu THUNDERDOME.

The contestants:

Scottish Nationalist and Firebrand PETER DOW

vs.

Hardcore Britisher and Imperialist INVICTUS_88

ENTERTAIN ME.

This could be as good as that one thread on Ireland where all the UK people were tearing each other to pieces.


Sorry I missed this. I have a demanding job, so was away in gainful employment.

Bad luck, Dow.

Peter Pan will be back shortly to enthusiastically blow off educated opinions with his infallible but vague policy improvement suggestions.
OMG fix noise was right, there is a war on christmas.

Did they hit the nigerian prince who was going to share his fortune with me?
Invictus_88
Verganza. What Dow means is, he can't be bothered to work, and so owes his financial security to the British Government, which in its credulousness offers free money to the workshy in the naive belief that it might (somehow) promote a work ethic.

Dow not having had gainful employment for some years, yet assiduously spamming his copy+paste conspiracy theory bollocks on a wide range of forums, is a fine example of the flaws in the government benefit system.
To be fair; it's more offered in some naive concept that it's more important to keep families from starving than cut out criminal abuse. Problem is; trying to cut out abuse of said system makes one an evil poor-hating b*****d who wants little kiddies to starve. emotion_eyebrow

That said; as Invictus 88 says, Dow offers primary example of this. Although one must ask how one can seriously take the word of a man who does not contribute any gain to his state on how the state should be improved. It's like a country which vetoes attempts to help an internationally held currency whilst calling on the nations using it to fix it.
The Queen has no power, she's a figurehead. Can you prove she personally had anything to do with this?

Also, republics are not perfect either, you're going to have flaws with any government
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A Really Bad Idea
It's like a country which vetoes attempts to help an internationally held currency whilst calling on the nations using it to fix it.
I do hope you're not serious.
Camera Stellata
A Really Bad Idea
It's like a country which vetoes attempts to help an internationally held currency whilst calling on the nations using it to fix it.
I do hope you're not serious.
I just needed something to stab at pn the theme that still related to the UK.
That said; it's somewhat difficult to accept the veto when he then condones the use of EU institutions to enact the accord.
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A Really Bad Idea
It's like a country which vetoes attempts to help an internationally held currency whilst calling on the nations using it to fix it.
I do hope you're not serious.
I just needed something to stab at pn the theme that still related to the UK.
That said; it's somewhat difficult to accept the veto when he then condones the use of EU institutions to enact the accord.
I don't know about condones so much as refrains from mounting a legal challenge.

If you remember, many pundits commented that the veto wouldn't protect Britain in the long term because certain regulations in the financial services sector could be brought about throughout the EU by qualified majority voting - which the UK couldn't veto. Perhaps permitting them to use these facilities unhindered is just a way of gaining some leverage or good will from the remaing "26". As principled as it might be to kick up a huge fuss and a stink, it might just needlessly weaken our position. I mean what would we actually gain by blocking them?

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