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Ron Paul, the old coot who is often laughed at and ridiculed, who has no chance in hell to win the primarys, and is often disregarded as a threat however it turns out that this might not be the case.

Despite what the numbers might show Ron Paul actually has a chance of winning. Not by some good old fashioned popularity contest but by a a Political Sleight of Hand.



Essentially, what Paul has been doing within the caucases is that his supporters have been waiting until the moment where the delegates are decided and he has them brought in as the delegates. This happens because they always show up en masse so a Ron Paul supporter is almost always accidentally chosen as a delegate in the caucases.

The clincher here is one of two things. The first is that delegates do not have to vote with what their region wanted. If the region was won by Romney the Delegate does not have to vote for Romney, they can simply decide to vote Ron Paul if they want to vote for Ron Paul. This means ignoring what their region wants and simply deciding "I'm the delegate and I'm a Ron Paul supporter" and voting Paul.

The second, is that this is completely legitimate. It's actually a very underhanded political move but it's legitimate as they are not required to vote with for their region.

Because Paul does this, it makes him a really huge threat. In particular, this makes him a big threat because most people don't know about this. Many people assume that the outcome of the results will guarantee the win, it won't. Unless they decide to vote with the region (which RP supporters won't do nor do they have to) you will have alot of delegates who will vote Paul despite the fact that they may currently count as Romneys, Santorums, or Gringichs' because Paul supporters can jury rig the outcome as to who becomes a delegate by their sheer mass of numbers.

OUCH.

Also, talk about undemocratic.

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Meh; ain't gonna happen.
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Ahh, interesting..

Not an American I dont know much about the extra stuff within their system.
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Wraith of Azrael


Ahh, interesting..

Not an American I dont know much about the extra stuff within their system.


Neither am I. I find America's electoral college quite confusing.
Wraith of Azrael


Ahh, interesting..

Not an American I dont know much about the extra stuff within their system.



It's the same goal-post moving bunk from 4 years ago, though::

"Don't worry, Ron's going to sweep the primaries!"
"But, he didn't win anything?"
"Those primaries didn't matter, it's the next chunk that matters"
"Still didn't win anything..."

Basically, they've got to invent a reason why he's still in it, despite being the least popular candidate in the field; have to keep those donations coming, after all.
Disa Uniflora
Wraith of Azrael


Ahh, interesting..

Not an American I dont know much about the extra stuff within their system.


Neither am I. I find America's electoral college quite confusing.


If I had to take a guess based on what Iv read on that it works something like this.

Delegates chosen from countys.
Of those delegates, 2 or so per precinct make up the state congressional assembly.
Of these guys, 18 (half of the states delegates) go to the national convention.
Another 2 or so per precinct make up the 283 state caucus. They are seperate from the other guys.
They choose the other half of of the national convention.
They all go to the national convention and vote.

Thats...pretty rediculous I admit.
Anon E. Mouse
Meh; ain't gonna happen.


I wish it would happen. I'd be laughing my butt off. As much as I don't support Ron Paul, I just hate the entire bought and paid for political process and cant stand neither Obama, Romney or any of them
pockybot
Anon E. Mouse
Meh; ain't gonna happen.


I wish it would happen. I'd be laughing my butt off. As much as I don't support Ron Paul, I just hate the entire bought and paid for political process and cant stand neither Obama, Romney or any of them


Meh, election rigging one way or the other is still pretty slimy regardless.
pockybot
Anon E. Mouse
Meh; ain't gonna happen.


I wish it would happen. I'd be laughing my butt off. As much as I don't support Ron Paul, I just hate the entire bought and paid for political process and cant stand neither Obama, Romney or any of them


If it happened, if Ron won the nomination through exploiting a loophole in the system, without winning anything; it would be the equivalent of handing the presidency to Barack Obama on a silver platter with a complimentary b*****b.
Anon E. Mouse
pockybot
Anon E. Mouse
Meh; ain't gonna happen.


I wish it would happen. I'd be laughing my butt off. As much as I don't support Ron Paul, I just hate the entire bought and paid for political process and cant stand neither Obama, Romney or any of them


If it happened, if Ron won the nomination through exploiting a loophole in the system, without winning anything; it would be the equivalent of handing the presidency to Barack Obama on a silver platter with a complimentary b*****b.


Mmm...

I wouldnt think so.

Ron Pauls FP is something which tends to attract people if they are liberal or Republican.

Thats the thing, a candidate has to appear good both to liberals and conservatives.

If its someone like Santorum, it will be a walk in the park.

Gingritch, possibly but also abit of a walk in the park.

Romney...he has no actual positions, he does whatever is politically good at the time. Which makes him a good candidate.

Ron Paul....
Has some positions which will attract but then other positions which will scare people away.
Be they both Republican or Democrat.
Wraith of Azrael
Anon E. Mouse
pockybot
Anon E. Mouse
Meh; ain't gonna happen.


I wish it would happen. I'd be laughing my butt off. As much as I don't support Ron Paul, I just hate the entire bought and paid for political process and cant stand neither Obama, Romney or any of them


If it happened, if Ron won the nomination through exploiting a loophole in the system, without winning anything; it would be the equivalent of handing the presidency to Barack Obama on a silver platter with a complimentary b*****b.


Mmm...

I wouldnt think so.

Ron Pauls FP is something which tends to attract people if they are liberal or Republican.

Thats the thing, a candidate has to appear good both to liberals and conservatives.

If its someone like Santorum, it will be a walk in the park.

Gingritch, possibly but also abit of a walk in the park.

Romney...he has no actual positions, he does whatever is politically good at the time. Which makes him a good candidate.

Ron Paul....
Has some positions which will attract but then other positions which will scare people away.
Be they both Republican or Democrat.



Yeah, no. Ron Paul's positions don''t attract Republicans, and that's his entire problem. Hasn't won anything yet, didn't win anything last time he ran. Actually pulling off this plan would only serve to further disenfranchise him with his base. A Republican candidate needs Republican voters to win.
Wraith of Azrael
pockybot
Anon E. Mouse
Meh; ain't gonna happen.


I wish it would happen. I'd be laughing my butt off. As much as I don't support Ron Paul, I just hate the entire bought and paid for political process and cant stand neither Obama, Romney or any of them


Meh, election rigging one way or the other is still pretty slimy regardless.


Worked for Bush twice smile

Anyways, the entire presidential election is a joke. Did anyone really think wall street puppet man Obama *wasnt* going to win in 2008?
pockybot
Wraith of Azrael
pockybot
Anon E. Mouse
Meh; ain't gonna happen.


I wish it would happen. I'd be laughing my butt off. As much as I don't support Ron Paul, I just hate the entire bought and paid for political process and cant stand neither Obama, Romney or any of them


Meh, election rigging one way or the other is still pretty slimy regardless.


Worked for Bush twice smile

Anyways, the entire presidential election is a joke. Did anyone really think wall street puppet man Obama *wasnt* going to win in 2008?


I hear that alot that Bush rigged the election but...he really didnt, unless they were delegates.

The controversy that some ballots were chucked out in I believe California or something.

Problem ofcourse is that it would only matter if it was delegate votes. If it was popular votes then it simply wouldnt matter as popular vote does not determine who the President shall be.

Kerry was also a joke.

As for Obama and McCain...

It was argued that electronic voting machines would be rigged for McCain or that if Obma won he would have been assassinated.

That being said, the way the media swooned over Obama made it an essential guarantee that he was going to be elected.

The entire American system...

is a joke.

The most popular people get the votes and partys which make up 10 or 5 percent of the population...arent represented.

Theres no point in voting, for those people.

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