Partisan Hacks don't support Syria

[The Sky Does Not Bow]

Wraith of Azrael

The Sky Does Not Bow

pockybot

The Sky Does Not Bow

pockybot

The thinking is it has to be a proxy war.

Probably not.

"Arab nations get ready to arm Syria rebels; bloodshed worsens "
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46378492/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/#.TzrdVfldBzo

You just highlighted a few reasons why Western military intervention would be crazy

A proxy war between whom?

If I had to take a guess...

It would be Iran, Russia, and probably the Western Powers backing the Rebels.

I would post the 150,000 or so Iranian troop claim but judging from the sources that are spouting that...it might not be that reliable.

Western powers aren't backing the rebels, though. And it's already no secret Iran and Russia provide material support to Syria.

[Wraith of Azrael]

The Sky Does Not Bow

Wraith of Azrael

The Sky Does Not Bow

pockybot

The Sky Does Not Bow

pockybot

The thinking is it has to be a proxy war.

Probably not.

"Arab nations get ready to arm Syria rebels; bloodshed worsens "
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46378492/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/#.TzrdVfldBzo

You just highlighted a few reasons why Western military intervention would be crazy

A proxy war between whom?

If I had to take a guess...

It would be Iran, Russia, and probably the Western Powers backing the Rebels.

I would post the 150,000 or so Iranian troop claim but judging from the sources that are spouting that...it might not be that reliable.

Western powers aren't backing the rebels, though. And it's already no secret Iran and Russia provide material support to Syria.

The idea is that if they did intervene it would turn into a proxy war because of Iranian and Russian material support.

One of the reasons it would not be an all out invasion is because of the possibility of the 15,000 (I checked, I accidently added a zero) Iranian troops being sent to Syria. Should such troops end up fighting against troops provided by the Western powers there would be alot of controversy, which is why it's recommended to avoid such a possible scenario as much as possible.

[The Sky Does Not Bow]

Wraith of Azrael

The Sky Does Not Bow

Wraith of Azrael

The Sky Does Not Bow

pockybot

"Arab nations get ready to arm Syria rebels; bloodshed worsens "
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46378492/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/#.TzrdVfldBzo

You just highlighted a few reasons why Western military intervention would be crazy

A proxy war between whom?

If I had to take a guess...

It would be Iran, Russia, and probably the Western Powers backing the Rebels.

I would post the 150,000 or so Iranian troop claim but judging from the sources that are spouting that...it might not be that reliable.

Western powers aren't backing the rebels, though. And it's already no secret Iran and Russia provide material support to Syria.

The idea is that if they did intervene it would turn into a proxy war because of Iranian and Russian material support.

One of the reasons it would not be an all out invasion is because of the possibility of the 15,000 (I checked, I accidently added a zero) Iranian troops being sent to Syria. Should such troops end up fighting against troops provided by the Western powers there would be alot of controversy, which is why it's recommended to avoid such a possible scenario as much as possible.

Syria already has 220,000 troops and a fairly modern armoury.

[shoeless joe]

The Sky Does Not Bow

Wraith of Azrael

The Sky Does Not Bow

pockybot

The Sky Does Not Bow

pockybot

The thinking is it has to be a proxy war.

Probably not.

"Arab nations get ready to arm Syria rebels; bloodshed worsens "
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46378492/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/#.TzrdVfldBzo

You just highlighted a few reasons why Western military intervention would be crazy

A proxy war between whom?

If I had to take a guess...

It would be Iran, Russia, and probably the Western Powers backing the Rebels.

I would post the 150,000 or so Iranian troop claim but judging from the sources that are spouting that...it might not be that reliable.

Western powers aren't backing the rebels, though. And it's already no secret Iran and Russia provide material support to Syria.

Saudi Arabia and their Arab cronies, which are of course backed by western powers.

[pockybot]

shoeless joe

The Sky Does Not Bow

Wraith of Azrael

The Sky Does Not Bow

pockybot

"Arab nations get ready to arm Syria rebels; bloodshed worsens "
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46378492/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/#.TzrdVfldBzo

You just highlighted a few reasons why Western military intervention would be crazy

A proxy war between whom?

If I had to take a guess...

It would be Iran, Russia, and probably the Western Powers backing the Rebels.

I would post the 150,000 or so Iranian troop claim but judging from the sources that are spouting that...it might not be that reliable.

Western powers aren't backing the rebels, though. And it's already no secret Iran and Russia provide material support to Syria.

Saudi Arabia and their Arab cronies, which are of course backed by western powers.

The Arabs, US, Israel and most of Europe are part of the "Western Bloc"...while I guess, Venezeula, Iran, Syria, North Korea, etc are part of the "super villain club"...then there is China and Russia, who plays both sides. But wait, doesnt Iran need all its troops for the highly advertised upcoming war with US and Israel? smile

[LSD TV]

pockybot

shoeless joe

The Sky Does Not Bow

Wraith of Azrael

The Sky Does Not Bow

pockybot

"Arab nations get ready to arm Syria rebels; bloodshed worsens "
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46378492/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/#.TzrdVfldBzo

You just highlighted a few reasons why Western military intervention would be crazy

A proxy war between whom?

If I had to take a guess...

It would be Iran, Russia, and probably the Western Powers backing the Rebels.

I would post the 150,000 or so Iranian troop claim but judging from the sources that are spouting that...it might not be that reliable.

Western powers aren't backing the rebels, though. And it's already no secret Iran and Russia provide material support to Syria.

Saudi Arabia and their Arab cronies, which are of course backed by western powers.

The Arabs, US, Israel and most of Europe are part of the "Western Bloc"...while I guess, Venezeula, Iran, Syria, North Korea, etc are part of the "super villain club"...then there is China and Russia, who plays both sides. But wait, doesnt Iran need all its troops for the highly advertised upcoming war with US and Israel? smile

Whose team are you on?

[A Really Bad Idea]

pockybot

I always wondered, how does Iran get militias and other stuff to Lebanon and Syria?
Saudi Arabia hates them, so they can't go that route. Most people on here probably don't realize Saudi Arabia and Yemen have been fighting a war in Northern Yemen against Iranian backed Shiite rebels, with both Saudi and Yemense war planes and troops.

Then again, duh...it hits me. Iraq has literally become a de fact Iranian satellite state thanks to the US invasion. Easy access right through to Syria.

Pretty much this. It also has to be noted that Turkey has siezed Iranian arms passing through their country. They weren't impressed with Iran over that. And of course; it's easy to pass through Syria when Assad has good reason to support Ahmadinejad.

(Perhaps a bit late to reply to but no one picked it up).

[pockybot]

A Really Bad Idea

pockybot

I always wondered, how does Iran get militias and other stuff to Lebanon and Syria?
Saudi Arabia hates them, so they can't go that route. Most people on here probably don't realize Saudi Arabia and Yemen have been fighting a war in Northern Yemen against Iranian backed Shiite rebels, with both Saudi and Yemense war planes and troops.

Then again, duh...it hits me. Iraq has literally become a de fact Iranian satellite state thanks to the US invasion. Easy access right through to Syria.

Pretty much this. It also has to be noted that Turkey has siezed Iranian arms passing through their country. They weren't impressed with Iran over that. And of course; it's easy to pass through Syria when Assad has good reason to support Ahmadinejad.

(Perhaps a bit late to reply to but no one picked it up).

Only the ruling class of Syria seems to be Shiite, hence the friendship with Iran.

I don't know about Iran. They're proxy terrorists suck on that underwear bomber/shoebomber level. The only major terror attack in modern history theyve been credited for(1996 Khobar towers) against the west turned out to actually be the work of al Qaeda. They change registry and flags on ships and containers on a weekly basis, but still make it obvious of the Iranian country of origin.

Maybe the worry isn't so much Iran would launch a nuke, but that they're so clumsily retarded they'd accidentally launch it like mo larry and curly.

[pockybot]

The way things are going(going from the latest video piece here), more and more Syrian troops are defecting to the rebels as the country has begun to erupt into a full blown civil war
http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/17/10435915-officials-us-drones-monitoring-clashes-in-syria

Even if every city is destroyed, it may be best for rebels to fight their fight than have western forces drawn in.

[A Really Bad Idea]

pockybot

The way things are going(going from the latest video piece here), more and more Syrian troops are defecting to the rebels as the country has begun to erupt into a full blown civil war
http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/17/10435915-officials-us-drones-monitoring-clashes-in-syria

Even if every city is destroyed, it may be best for rebels to fight their fight than have western forces drawn in.

Nah. We need to ensure the local resources are secure as possible rebels get their shot at liberty. To be fair, legit things do happen in this vein.
Cynicism aside, it would actually be good to see the conflict resolve internally (although it's worrisomely doubtful Russia and Iran will let that be) if only in the rather vain hope that the rapid denouncements of Russia/China will be an easy way of securing an ally in the region.

[Jerkovic]

Oh my god.
Alright, first of all, there aren't that many deaths in Syria, and you only have that high of a number in your head because of a propaganda that's aiming to overthrow Bashar, in fact, people don't even know if it's Bashar/Bashar's army that's even doing the kill, rather a terrorist groups or mercenaries. Al-Qaeda's presence in Syria is also irrefutable.

The propaganda exists for many reasons, secular, region-power, punishment, or whatever. The only reason this exists and is being reported by American/Jewish/Saudi/Qatari journals because these countries want to end Bashar's regime because he doesn't follow United States and what they want. Syria is/was considered a threat to Israel, especially after they aided Lebanon when Israel attacked. Saudi Arabia, and Qatar are basically very westernized and are sucking United States' balls dry, other reasons for them to support the anti-Bashar regime is because of secular reasons and region-power, as Syria is a close ally of Iran, and Saudi Arabia doesn't like Iran not one bit, because of the Shi'tte, speaking of Shi'tte, did you know Saudi Arabia are killing Bahrain pro-democracy protestors solely on the fact that they're Shi'a and want to be free of political oppression?

Furthermore, it's not new to anyone who has been following middle east for years to know that Syria and Iran are anti-westernization, anti-Israel, and Pro-Palestine, which is affecting Israel and United States, even Chomsky said in 2006, that United States are pressuring both Iran and Syria for disobeying them, or not following them.

The uprising in Syria is WAY more complicated than it looks, and it's definitely different from what was/is in Libya or Iraq.
And for those who think this is not history repeating itself, I advise them to study more about Middle East and more about the 2002 attempt to overthrow Venezuelan Hugo Chavez by the Americans.

Lastly, the actual report of the Arab League
More related links:
http://www.voltairenet.org/Presidency-of-Arab-League-seeks-to
http://www.voltairenet.org/What-Is-Really-Going-On-In-Syria

It's all basically a Western-fabrication propaganda to call for a Libyan-Style of aggression.

Claimed "deaths" actors
Claimed Dead Syrians Say They're Alive!
Terrorism & Manipulation | Full Documentary (IF you have time)

As I said, it's really more complicated that what it looks like.
Also I'd like to add that I've contacts in Syria, there are more Pro-Bashar than Anti-Bashar, but of course you would never hear that from Westernized media, and Syrians are calling for military presence to defend its citizens from terrorists groups

[LSD TV]

Oh I forgot, I was in favor of intervening in Syria and not Libya from the beginning. Sometimes I think the world is run by morons.