Nuclear program in Iran - what do you think should be done?

[Steven Hawkings]

4m3thyst

Disa Uniflora

4m3thyst

agrab0ekim

they have every right to have nukes, and i dont think that we should interfere

Well, they did sign the non-proliferation. And after all their hate towards Israel and the US, people are afraid to let them have that much power.

Iran will never be a threat to the United States regardless of what they do or do not do.

No, but they can target Israel. And no one in the Middle East with the exception of (maybe) Egypt will bat an eyelid.

Ohh please. Israel and its elbow room policy gets old. The only real threat to Iran would be Iran itself.

And most of you are doing a good job at degrading them, please what is on the list that these group of savages must learn from us?

[Lord Cameron]

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Lord Cameron

I like telling black people to their face that they should thank slavery.

So you're ignorant and a horrific human being. Cool.

Hey, they'd still be confined to Africa confronting even worse segregation if it wasn't for slavery.

[Kaori242]

Steven Hawkings

Ohh please. Israel and its elbow room policy gets old. The only real threat to Iran would be Iran itself.

And most of you are doing a good job at degrading them, please what is on the list that these group of savages must learn from us?

Well, I guess it'd be nice if they didn't rig their elections... neutral But to be honest, I agree that we aren't exactly the prime examples of a righteous nation.

[Vercingetorix VII]

Lord Cameron

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Lord Cameron

I like telling black people to their face that they should thank slavery.

So you're ignorant and a horrific human being. Cool.

Hey, they'd still be confined to Africa confronting even worse segregation if it wasn't for slavery.

Africa would be a lot better condition if it wasn't the victim of centuries of warfare to fuel the guns-for-slaves trade.

This is like a descendant of Huns that sacked Rome and dragged off a bunch of slaves commenting on how lucky those slaves are not to live in their sacked and dessicated city.

[agrab0ekim]

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agrab0ekim

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iran should not be allowed to have a nuclear anything until they become more friendly

i mean, their government is pretty ******** up, they should be shunned by the world and driven back into the dark ages until they shape up. they want to hang gay folks and treat women like its the 1500's, they dont need nuclear power

so, to get them to advance their culture from the 1500s to the 2000s we will decrease their technology from the 2000s to the 1500s
great plan

if they live like they are in the 1500s, why the ******** would i want them anywhere near the same level the US or any of its allies are?

are we forgetting their "democratically" elected leader hates israel, and is a holocaust fan

who cares what their leader wants, that is not relevant
our previous leader...

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Vercingetorix VII

It's been more than six decades since the Holocaust. Should the Jews just get over it?

fail comparison

firstly the jews never did anything wrong. secondly they arent bitching about it, they just have museums and what not up, but they arent a ******** country and im pretty sure most arent wanting the destruction of germany right now

you suck

Israel is in fact an entire Jewish country, which uses the Holocaust to justify it's own atrocities and accuses anyone who criticizes it of being a crypto-Nazi.

So not such a fail comparison at all, if you actually knew what you were talking about.

Also, are you saying the Iranians did "do something wrong" that they should be invaded and exploited by the West?

Silvia Crow

Buddy, I've heard blacks b***h more about slavery than I've hear Jews b***h about the holocaust.

As far as I know, there's no nation of blacks that uses slavery, or the much more recent Jim Crow, which lasted until well into the 60's, as an excuse to subjugate another race of beings.

Lord Cameron

I like telling black people to their face that they should thank slavery.

So you're ignorant and a horrific human being. Cool.

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Israel is in fact an entire Jewish country, which uses the Holocaust to justify it's own atrocities and accuses anyone who criticizes it of being a crypto-Nazi.

anti-Semitic much? what atrocities? you mean against the palestinians. dont they blow up buses with kids on them? you cant generalize a group, but you can with a nation like Iran because THEIR ******** LEADER IS COMPLETELY INSANE AND HOSTILE

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So not such a fail comparison at all, if you actually knew what you were talking about.

if you knew what you were talking about, youd realize the jews didnt set up israel, britian and its allies did

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Also, are you saying the Iranians did "do something wrong" that they should be invaded and exploited by the West?

i dont think they should be invaded until they become a legitimate threat, which might be soon

i just dont want them to have any kind of say or influence on the US or its allies, if them having nuclear power (which puts them on a higher order than other countries) elevates them in any way, i am against it until they remove their ******** leader and government and form a more ******** that, more CIVILIZED society

******** west and east, its about not being savages (i understand the people from iran are smart and very capable, but they need to break off the shackles of islam-fascism before i alter my statements or attitude about iran as a nation)

and yes they did do alot of ******** up s**t, mostly to their own people. and what do you mean exploited by the west? god damn you sound like one of those rich suburban white guys who loves to post on che-lives from his parents basement

******** you

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So you're ignorant and a horrific human being. Cool.

well if you actually think about, without slavery they wouldnt be in america.....which means they would still be in africa, and africa sucks

of course america might not be the powerhouse that is it today, but then again one could argue that the US wasnt a really successful nation until after the civil war, and so on

your a close minded douchebag

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Steven Hawkings

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Silvia Crow

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so its been 3 ******** decades and they cant get their act together

case in point

It's been more than six decades since the Holocaust. Should the Jews just get over it?

Buddy, I've heard blacks b***h more about slavery than I've hear Jews b***h about the holocaust.

ya, but most dont do that

the ones who do are choads

Not my point. Should we start were we messed with the country or keep going were still do today? Our country would love to otherthrow the current leader and put a pro-America goverment giving us oil, in return for no tax or few returns from them. We did that till the 1970's, and we blocked them off from any market. When the Brits got kicked out of Iran the CIA overthrow the leader, who would charge oil taxes for rebuilding the country, and and as a result we took that from them, and installed their king, again.

How does sixty years of messing with Iran even compare? This is ongoing.

what are you talking about? so because we messed with their political system years ago (30 something years ago) its an excuse for them to be openly hostile to the US, its allies, and irans own people?

ya, still not buying it, i dont care what their excuse is, if your an a*****e, your an a*****e. you might have a good reason, but because your still an a** gives me a whole list of reasons not to trust you, to shun you, and drive you back

hows that for an analogy?

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agrab0ekim

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agrab0ekim

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iran should not be allowed to have a nuclear anything until they become more friendly

i mean, their government is pretty ******** up, they should be shunned by the world and driven back into the dark ages until they shape up. they want to hang gay folks and treat women like its the 1500's, they dont need nuclear power

so, to get them to advance their culture from the 1500s to the 2000s we will decrease their technology from the 2000s to the 1500s
great plan

if they live like they are in the 1500s, why the ******** would i want them anywhere near the same level the US or any of its allies are?

are we forgetting their "democratically" elected leader hates israel, and is a holocaust fan

who cares what their leader wants, that is not relevant
our previous leader...

of course it is, if their leader and government reflect that, something should be done

and what about our previous leader? bush was an ok president (his first term) and his second term he fizzled the ******** out. i dont like him, but i dont think he should be compared to folks like Ahmadinejad

[RAINN Voulunteer]

Off Topic: Anyone hear about the Iraqi women who was runned over and killed in the name of honor by her father? When I hear these kinds of stories, it makes me so mad that it's a justifcation for me for why we should be in their country to tell them right from wrong. But when my head clears from the anger I relize that instead of dictating, we should lead by example and hope that by leading, the youth of the middle east can start a discussion in which change can actually happen. May I remind you that in the mid-east there are more young people in the region than there are old. I think it's like 60-70 percent. We should find a way in which there will be more liberal minds in the mid-east than there are conservative minds. Getting out of their politics (unless it's absolutly nessesary to get involoved.), helping their countries develop which in turn, will create a much more bigger middle class, and creating a dialouge between our governments and people.


On topic: Many experts now agree that Iran is now on a destination to becoming a military dictatorship. If the progress finishes, Iran will be a much more greater threat, and there will be a much greater chance of Iran going to war or nuking Israel.

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Raptor Mechanic

Off Topic: Anyone hear about the Iraqi women who was runned over and killed in the name of honor by her father? When I hear these kinds of stories, it makes me so mad that it's a justifcation for me for why we should be in their country to tell them right from wrong. But when my head clears from the anger I relize that instead of dictating, we should lead by example and hope that by leading, the youth of the middle east can start a discussion in which change can actually happen. May I remind you that in the mid-east there are more young people in the region than there are old. I think it's like 60-70 percent. We should find a way in which there will be more liberal minds in the mid-east than there are conservative minds. Getting out of their politics (unless it's absolutly nessesary to get involoved.), helping their countries develop which in turn, will create a much more bigger middle class, and creating a dialouge between our governments and people.


On topic: Many experts now agree that Iran is now on a destination to becoming a military dictatorship. If the progress finishes, Iran will be a much more greater threat, and there will be a much greater chance of Iran going to war or nuking Israel.

the honor killings are ******** up and common place, not just in the middle east, but france and britain are even having a hard time with it

[Lord Cameron]

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Lord Cameron

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Lord Cameron

I like telling black people to their face that they should thank slavery.

So you're ignorant and a horrific human being. Cool.

Hey, they'd still be confined to Africa confronting even worse segregation if it wasn't for slavery.

Africa would be a lot better condition if it wasn't the victim of centuries of warfare to fuel the guns-for-slaves trade.

This is like a descendant of Huns that sacked Rome and dragged off a bunch of slaves commenting on how lucky those slaves are not to live in their sacked and dessicated city.

but they made great poets

[RAINN Voulunteer]

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Raptor Mechanic

Off Topic: Anyone hear about the Iraqi women who was runned over and killed in the name of honor by her father? When I hear these kinds of stories, it makes me so mad that it's a justifcation for me for why we should be in their country to tell them right from wrong. But when my head clears from the anger I relize that instead of dictating, we should lead by example and hope that by leading, the youth of the middle east can start a discussion in which change can actually happen. May I remind you that in the mid-east there are more young people in the region than there are old. I think it's like 60-70 percent. We should find a way in which there will be more liberal minds in the mid-east than there are conservative minds. Getting out of their politics (unless it's absolutly nessesary to get involoved.), helping their countries develop which in turn, will create a much more bigger middle class, and creating a dialouge between our governments and people.


On topic: Many experts now agree that Iran is now on a destination to becoming a military dictatorship. If the progress finishes, Iran will be a much more greater threat, and there will be a much greater chance of Iran going to war or nuking Israel.

the honor killings are ******** up and common place, not just in the middle east, but france and britain are even having a hard time with it

Genocide, genocide, genocide!

[Amongst_many]

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anti-Semitic much? what atrocities? you mean against the palestinians. dont they blow up buses with kids on them? you cant generalize a group, but you can with a nation like Iran because THEIR ******** LEADER IS COMPLETELY INSANE AND HOSTILE

Wow, just wow, read up a bit on what's going on there cause you honestly don't have the slightest clue on what Israel is doing to them.

Amongst_many

Spokesman for UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) Chris Gunness, said: "It looks like phosphorus, it smells like phosphorus and it burns like phosphorus.

"White phosphorus cannot be put out with water.

"You can’t put it out with traditional methods such as fire extinguishers.

"You need sand but we do not have any sand in the compound."

The Geneva Convention bans the use of white phosphorus, which burns at extremely high temperatures, as a weapon of war in civilian areas. However there is no blanket ban under international law on its use as a smokescreen or for illumination.

Many Palestinians in Gaza have reportedly sustained serious injuries from the substance which is classified as a 'chemical weapon' by US intelligence.

The building was clearly marked with UN flags and officials were blaming Israel for the attack.

http://www.amnesty.org.au/news/comments/20118/P20/

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=14222

http://www.commondreams.org/files/article_images/whitephosporus_un.jpg

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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1112493.html

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Rick Sanchez (CNN) does the research and finds that Israel violated the terms of the ceasefire first by killing 6 Gazans on November 4. Shouldn't media outlets check the facts before running with a story?

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It's Israel's latest weapon: Without notice, an Israeli jet fighter flies low over the densely populated Gaza Strip, breaking the sound barrier.


Dr. Eyad Sarraj, a psychiatrist in Gaza, says it is the children who are harmed the most.


"For children under the age of 6, large noise means danger, a danger to life," he said. "This is definitely a form of collective punishment, which under international law is prohibited and considered a war crime."

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Gaza-based gynecologist Dr. Izzeldin Abuelaish, 54, a widower and father of five, represents hope and a brighter future to many in Israel. Fluent in Hebrew, Abuelaish is a quasi-celebrity on Israeli television, due to his guest appearances to discuss health issues. However, it was on Jan. 16, 2009 that his personal tragedy--captured in a phone call broadcast live by a quick-thinking Israeli journalist-brought both sides, Israelis and Palestinians, closer together.

On that day an Israeli tank missile struck Dr. Abuelaish's home in the Jabalya Refugee Camp, as he was preparing to go on live Israeli television with a phone-in medical segment about women's health. Killed in the attack were his daughters Aya, 14, Mayar, 15, and Bissan, 21, and his niece, Noor, 17.

In a telephone interview, he recalled the day so many of his family members were killed.

"We [the Jabalya Refugee Camp] were under attack," he explained, "and there was no electricity in the house. I asked my daughters to save the cell phone batteries for my television segment on women's health."

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if you knew what you were talking about, youd realize the jews didnt set up israel, britian and its allies did

Yes, but Israel is the one that's pushing for a further marginalization of the palestine and control all of their resources and shoot them up in the cage they created for them.

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i dont think they should be invaded until they become a legitimate threat, which might be soon

i just dont want them to have any kind of say or influence on the US or its allies, if them having nuclear power (which puts them on a higher order than other countries) elevates them in any way, i am against it until they remove their ******** leader and government and form a more ******** that, more CIVILIZED society

******** west and east, its about not being savages (i understand the people from iran are smart and very capable, but they need to break off the shackles of islam-fascism before i alter my statements or attitude about iran as a nation)

and yes they did do alot of ******** up s**t, mostly to their own people. and what do you mean exploited by the west? god damn you sound like one of those rich suburban white guys who loves to post on che-lives from his parents basement

******** you

So what are you going to do huh? You think the US has to bring down their leader? Maybe even choose a better one for them that'll bow down to all their whims regardless if it's bad for the population? What about making a trade embargo that'll cause hundreds of thousands of death and lower the life quality thus making ignorance more widespread? Are you going to blame them for that too?

You know what Iran did on 9/11? They sympathized with the US, they went on the streets and marched around in their honor, the US then put then on the Axis of evil. What about Iran Air Flight 655? I bet you know all about that.

Why don't you learn a thing or two about the middle east and how the US just shits all over them before opening your mouth and throwing a ignorant as hell rant about their situation. Which brings us to:

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ya, still not buying it, i dont care what their excuse is, if your an a*****e, your an a*****e. you might have a good reason, but because your still an a** gives me a whole list of reasons not to trust you, to shun you, and drive you back

hows that for an analogy?

Then that fits the US perfectly since they can't pass an opportunity to be assholes, assholes to Asia, assholes to Africa, Assholes to Latin America, assholes to the middle east and assholes to Europe.

[DanskiWolf]

Amongst_many

Israel is in fact an entire Jewish country, which uses the Holocaust to justify it's own atrocities and accuses anyone who criticizes it of being a crypto-Nazi.

Mmm, so much argumentum ad nauseum rolled into one post.

Yes, remember, kids, the Gaza war wasn't about Hamas rockets, it was because of the Holocaust. Or at least that's what the extreme leftoids and their Islamist chums keep telling me.

[GeeWilakers]

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iran should not be allowed to have a nuclear anything until they become more friendly

i mean, their government is pretty ******** up, they should be shunned by the world and driven back into the dark ages until they shape up. they want to hang gay folks and treat women like its the 1500's, they dont need nuclear power

Does that mean until you update your conservative values past the 1800's you are only aloud to have muskets and candles biggrin