New York gets newest gun-control law in the country

Is New York's new gun control law a good idea?

Yes.	20.0%	[ 6 ]
Yes to some parts, no to others.	16.7%	[ 5 ]
No. It'll be completely ineffective.	20.0%	[ 6 ]
Bad legislation is bad.	30.0%	[ 9 ]
Teh gubment gunna take our gunz!	13.3%	[ 4 ]
Total Votes:			[ 30 ]

[God Emperor Akhenaton]

Totally Oblivious

Noogie

Totally Oblivious

Just erect a memorial to the people who were massacred, thanking them for their sacrifice for our freedoms. It's just the price you have pay for having such freedoms, and we should expect such. Every American should be willing to give their lives to protect the Constitution and all it means and if you aren't willing to do so, renounce your citizenship and go someplace else.

rofl

What's so funny? It appears to be the only solution you'll get any real support for. Patriotic Americans are always willing to sacrifice themselves (or more likely their fellow countrymen) for such ideals and freedoms. Look at how many of these people lined up to serve fighting for their county and its freedoms overseas. Such fervent patriots cannot be ignored. They earned the right through their actions.

That's cute. Did tyou say the same thing when the patriot act was signed or is it only fascism when a Democrat does it?

[HMS Thunder Child]

God Emperor Akhenaton

METALFumasu

CaeIeste

I guess having screening to get guns is bad then? Mental screening for such things is a must in my opinion.

T'is not the gun nor the seller's fault the gun was used for wrong doing. It's the person behind the gun; the person holding the gun; the person deciding what to do with the gun who is at blame.

So in other words, scapegoat the population with mental disorders and prevent them from access to guns?

Out of curiosity, how do you determine who has a right to get a gun based on a mental screening? Are there certain mental disorders that disqualify a person from being allowed to own a gun?

Depression would be a good start.

[Confused]

Why?

[God Emperor Akhenaton]

HMS Thunder Child

God Emperor Akhenaton

METALFumasu

CaeIeste

I guess having screening to get guns is bad then? Mental screening for such things is a must in my opinion.

T'is not the gun nor the seller's fault the gun was used for wrong doing. It's the person behind the gun; the person holding the gun; the person deciding what to do with the gun who is at blame.

So in other words, scapegoat the population with mental disorders and prevent them from access to guns?

Out of curiosity, how do you determine who has a right to get a gun based on a mental screening? Are there certain mental disorders that disqualify a person from being allowed to own a gun?

Depression would be a good start.

[Confused]

Why?

And any credibility you once had is gone.

[HMS Thunder Child]

God Emperor Akhenaton

HMS Thunder Child

God Emperor Akhenaton

METALFumasu

CaeIeste

I guess having screening to get guns is bad then? Mental screening for such things is a must in my opinion.

T'is not the gun nor the seller's fault the gun was used for wrong doing. It's the person behind the gun; the person holding the gun; the person deciding what to do with the gun who is at blame.

So in other words, scapegoat the population with mental disorders and prevent them from access to guns?

Out of curiosity, how do you determine who has a right to get a gun based on a mental screening? Are there certain mental disorders that disqualify a person from being allowed to own a gun?

Depression would be a good start.

[Confused]

Why?

And any credibility you once had is gone.

[Confused]

Again, why?

[Totally Oblivious]

God Emperor Akhenaton

Totally Oblivious

Noogie

Totally Oblivious

Just erect a memorial to the people who were massacred, thanking them for their sacrifice for our freedoms. It's just the price you have pay for having such freedoms, and we should expect such. Every American should be willing to give their lives to protect the Constitution and all it means and if you aren't willing to do so, renounce your citizenship and go someplace else.

rofl

What's so funny? It appears to be the only solution you'll get any real support for. Patriotic Americans are always willing to sacrifice themselves (or more likely their fellow countrymen) for such ideals and freedoms. Look at how many of these people lined up to serve fighting for their county and its freedoms overseas. Such fervent patriots cannot be ignored. They earned the right through their actions.

That's cute. Did tyou say the same thing when the patriot act was signed or is it only fascism when a Democrat does it?

The Patriot Act is there to protect us from terrorist foreigners. That's different of course. They don't have Constitutional rights, nor do they believe in them or are willing to die for them, unlike Patriotic Americans. All real Americans are willing to sacrifice themselves (or more likely fellow Americans) to protect the sanctity of the Constitution.

You really should be proud of those children and their teachers. They are great patriots.

[God Emperor Akhenaton]

Totally Oblivious

God Emperor Akhenaton

Totally Oblivious

Noogie

Totally Oblivious

Just erect a memorial to the people who were massacred, thanking them for their sacrifice for our freedoms. It's just the price you have pay for having such freedoms, and we should expect such. Every American should be willing to give their lives to protect the Constitution and all it means and if you aren't willing to do so, renounce your citizenship and go someplace else.

rofl

What's so funny? It appears to be the only solution you'll get any real support for. Patriotic Americans are always willing to sacrifice themselves (or more likely their fellow countrymen) for such ideals and freedoms. Look at how many of these people lined up to serve fighting for their county and its freedoms overseas. Such fervent patriots cannot be ignored. They earned the right through their actions.

That's cute. Did tyou say the same thing when the patriot act was signed or is it only fascism when a Democrat does it?

The Patriot Act is there to protect us from terrorist foreigners. That's different of course. They don't have Constitutional rights, nor do they believe in them or are willing to die for them, unlike Patriotic Americans. All real Americans are willing to sacrifice themselves (or more likely fellow Americans) to protect the sanctity of the Constitution.

You really should be proud of those children and their teachers. They are great patriots.

And that includes the Americans who were tortured for it? What about the Japanese Americans who were born in the US and had their rights taken away when they needed it the most?

[HMS Thunder Child]

azulmagia

Wait a minute, let me get this right. After every gun massacre, including the latest one, the right wingers cry, "Don't go after guns, go after crazy people." Then they do so and there's a shitstorm.

******** 'em. confused

[Confused]

I believe the "shitstorm" is in regards to the banning of semi-automatic rifles, except for those grandfathered in.

[Earnest]

Were it not knee jerk, the legislation would presumably have targeted semi-automatic handguns, not rifles.

[Totally Oblivious]

God Emperor Akhenaton

And that includes the Americans who were tortured for it? What about the Japanese Americans who were born in the US and had their rights taken away when they needed it the most?

Some people have to sacrifice for their country. That's what it's all about, right? Americans were tortured for their beliefs in all wars from Iraq, Afghanistan. Vietnam, Korea, WWII... Shoot, all of them! It's just part of war.

I didn't know the Patriot Act covered Japanese Americans. You learn something new everyday. And it seemed there were Japanese Americans that were willing to die for the Constitution and America during WWII, despite the mistake that was made. That really make them Patriots. They put their country before their country's actions.

[God Emperor Akhenaton]

Totally Oblivious

God Emperor Akhenaton

And that includes the Americans who were tortured for it? What about the Japanese Americans who were born in the US and had their rights taken away when they needed it the most?

Some people have to sacrifice for their country. That's what it's all about, right? Americans were tortured for their beliefs in all wars from Iraq, Afghanistan. Vietnam, Korea, WWII... Shoot, all of them! It's just part of war.

I didn't know the Patriot Act covered Japanese Americans. You learn something new everyday. And it seemed there were Japanese Americans that were willing to die for the Constitution and America during WWII, despite the mistake that was made. That really make them Patriots. They put their country before their country's actions.

Then you are a hypocrite. Have a nice day.

[God Emperor Akhenaton]

HMS Thunder Child

God Emperor Akhenaton

HMS Thunder Child

God Emperor Akhenaton

METALFumasu

CaeIeste

I guess having screening to get guns is bad then? Mental screening for such things is a must in my opinion.

T'is not the gun nor the seller's fault the gun was used for wrong doing. It's the person behind the gun; the person holding the gun; the person deciding what to do with the gun who is at blame.

So in other words, scapegoat the population with mental disorders and prevent them from access to guns?

Out of curiosity, how do you determine who has a right to get a gun based on a mental screening? Are there certain mental disorders that disqualify a person from being allowed to own a gun?

Depression would be a good start.

[Confused]

Why?

And any credibility you once had is gone.

[Confused]

Again, why?

Because if someone has depression, then they are at an increased risk of suicide. And not all suicides involve one death.

[Totally Oblivious]

God Emperor Akhenaton

Totally Oblivious

God Emperor Akhenaton

And that includes the Americans who were tortured for it? What about the Japanese Americans who were born in the US and had their rights taken away when they needed it the most?

Some people have to sacrifice for their country. That's what it's all about, right? Americans were tortured for their beliefs in all wars from Iraq, Afghanistan. Vietnam, Korea, WWII... Shoot, all of them! It's just part of war.

I didn't know the Patriot Act covered Japanese Americans. You learn something new everyday. And it seemed there were Japanese Americans that were willing to die for the Constitution and America during WWII, despite the mistake that was made. That really make them Patriots. They put their country before their country's actions.

Then you are a hypocrite. Have a nice day.

Why am I a hypocrite?

[God Emperor Akhenaton]

Totally Oblivious

God Emperor Akhenaton

Totally Oblivious

God Emperor Akhenaton

And that includes the Americans who were tortured for it? What about the Japanese Americans who were born in the US and had their rights taken away when they needed it the most?

Some people have to sacrifice for their country. That's what it's all about, right? Americans were tortured for their beliefs in all wars from Iraq, Afghanistan. Vietnam, Korea, WWII... Shoot, all of them! It's just part of war.

I didn't know the Patriot Act covered Japanese Americans. You learn something new everyday. And it seemed there were Japanese Americans that were willing to die for the Constitution and America during WWII, despite the mistake that was made. That really make them Patriots. They put their country before their country's actions.

Then you are a hypocrite. Have a nice day.

Why am I a hypocrite?

You say that rights should not be infringed, but when a US citizen gets interned without a lawyer, trial by jury or any trial, then you say it's a sacrifice for the country. You are a hypocrite.

[HMS Thunder Child]

God Emperor Akhenaton

HMS Thunder Child

God Emperor Akhenaton

HMS Thunder Child

God Emperor Akhenaton

Depression would be a good start.

[Confused]

Why?

And any credibility you once had is gone.

[Confused]

Again, why?

Because if someone has depression, then they are at an increased risk of suicide. And not all suicides involve one death.

[Annoyed]

Were that the case, people in relationships would need to be barred as well, considering that domestic murders involving firearms are frequent enough to be statistics. I could continue to provide examples, or you could concede that what you propose is simply not grounds enough for a blanket ban.

All I am seeing here is a willingness to fund a witch hunt for convenience's sake.

[Totally Oblivious]

God Emperor Akhenaton

Totally Oblivious

God Emperor Akhenaton

Totally Oblivious

God Emperor Akhenaton

And that includes the Americans who were tortured for it? What about the Japanese Americans who were born in the US and had their rights taken away when they needed it the most?

Some people have to sacrifice for their country. That's what it's all about, right? Americans were tortured for their beliefs in all wars from Iraq, Afghanistan. Vietnam, Korea, WWII... Shoot, all of them! It's just part of war.

I didn't know the Patriot Act covered Japanese Americans. You learn something new everyday. And it seemed there were Japanese Americans that were willing to die for the Constitution and America during WWII, despite the mistake that was made. That really make them Patriots. They put their country before their country's actions.

Then you are a hypocrite. Have a nice day.

Why am I a hypocrite?

You say that rights should not be infringed, but when a US citizen gets interned without a lawyer, trial by jury or any trial, then you say it's a sacrifice for the country. You are a hypocrite.

Did I say that? What happened to the Japanese Americans was wrong, but I don't think the Patriot Act was what did that. The fact that Japanese Americans still fought for their country made them Patriots who believed despite what happened to them.

[God Emperor Akhenaton]

HMS Thunder Child

God Emperor Akhenaton

HMS Thunder Child

God Emperor Akhenaton

HMS Thunder Child

God Emperor Akhenaton

Depression would be a good start.

[Confused]

Why?

And any credibility you once had is gone.

[Confused]

Again, why?

Because if someone has depression, then they are at an increased risk of suicide. And not all suicides involve one death.

[Annoyed]

Were that the case, people in relationships would need to be barred as well, considering that domestic murders involving firearms are frequent enough to be statistics. I could continue to provide examples, or you could concede that what you propose is simply not grounds enough for a blanket ban.

All I am seeing here is a willingness to fund a witch hunt for convenience's sake.

A relationship doesn't increase the likelyhood of homicide. Depression however does. The mentally unstable have no business in owning a gun.