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How would it aid Obama's re-election campaign for Zimmerman to go to prison?
African American's tend to not have the highest voter turn-out, so the obvious thing right off the bat is that this sort of thing inflames emotions and get a better voter turnout. That wasn't exactly the point I was trying to make, but yes, this propaganda campaign against George Zimmerman will probably help Obama get more votes and distract from Obama's disastrous economic policies.

Anyway, Obama will benefit most if Zimmerman is found not guilty, but it should even have to come to that. He shouldn't have been arrested to begin with.






The fact of the matter is that George Zimmerman should not have been arrested.

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“The best evidence we have is the testimony of George Zimmerman, and he says the decedent was the primary aggressor in the whole event,” – Sanford Detective Serino told the Sentinel March 16.

“Everything I have is adding up to what he says.””


Indeed, even to this day there is not one cintilla of evidence ever presented after March 5th from any of the investigative teams including: the Sanford Police Department, Seminole County sheriffs office, Sanford District Attorney’s office and investigation unit, Special Prosecutor Angela Corey and her 65 person investigative team, the Federal Department of Justice or the FBI, that adds one factual evidentiary item toward changing the position held by the investigators office March 16th.

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Three weeks ago, on Monday April 2nd, during an exclusive interview with the Sentinel, Police Chief Lee disclosed certain details of the investigation and during that session, attended by Detective Serino and others, Serino said his investigation turned up no reliable evidence that cast doubt on Zimmerman’s account – that he had acted in self-defense.


Understand how important this is. Not one factual investigative piece of evidence has been added to the prosecution case since March 5th. Not one. Yet Zimmerman is in jail today, and was not on March 6th.

The reason is “Media Evidence.”

Media Evidence is a strategic use of information presented by the legal team, in this case Parks and Crump, and used to specifically and intentionally sway public opinion. If you can build the public opinion strong enough, it can change the action of the politically dependent class of prosecutors in your favor.

When factual evidence does not support your demand for an arrest. A specific intentional strategy is to create media evidence. Media evidence need not be real, it merely needs to appear to be real. The goal is to change opinion, and subsequently force an action the opposing party would otherwise not have taken.

Such is the action of arresting George Zimmerman.

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The media evidence was created by Trayvon Family Attorney Benjamin Parks. He delivered the framing for the evidence during his strategic press conference on Tuesday March 20th. Following the private 911 recorded screenings in Sanford Mayor Jeff Triplett’s office on March 16th.

The strategy was formulated, and the media evidence with accompanying narrative was constructed during the time period after that meeting in the Mayors office, and prior to the Press Conference where Crump would sell it. (Created March 16, 17, 18, 19, and delivered to media March 20th.)

The media evidence which formulated their forward strategy consisted of:

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Release of all the 911 call tapes from both George Zimmerman and the witnesses (including the scream tape). From the mayor to the Trayvon Family Attorneys.
Creation of Sybrina Fulton claiming the screams on the call were from Trayvon. Which directly contradicted Tracy Martin’s saying they were NOT Trayvon on Tuesday 2/28 at Sanford Police Dept with Detective Serino.
Discovery/Creation of Trayvon’s on-line T-Mobile phone records Sunday 3/18 by Tracy Martin.
Discovery/Creation of Trayvon’s girlfriend DeeDee and a series of phone calls leading up to his shooting evidenced within the phone records.
Discovery/Creation that DeeDee and Trayvon were on the phone for 6 hours and 40 minutes on 2/26 the date he was shot. (400 minutes)
Discovery/Creation of DeeDee actually hearing the confrontation between Trayvon and Zimmerman on the phone.
Discovery/Creation of DeeDee actually being in the hospital so distraught with grief she could not attend funeral services on 3/2 and 3/3.
Discovery/Creation of Chad Green (Brandy’s 14-year-old son) being home with Trayvon waiting for his bag of Skittles from 7-11.
Discovery/Creation of Tracy Martin and Brandy Green returning home at 10:30pm on the night Trayvon was shot.
Creation that George Zimmerman was a 247 lb man of massive scale.
They later created media evidence that Zimmerman was not injured with the help of ABC News; And that George Zimmerman was not medically treated at the scene and the 2nd ambulance was cancelled by dispatch.
Press Conference Transcript HERE
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Nah, she just plagiarises blog postings, and other things of this nature. Needless to say, I've found this whole argument very amusing.
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Benjamin Crump screwed up!!!! The Deedee call is a complete fabrication, it never happened!

They released a pdf showing a call at 7:04 PM just like Crump claimed, but if you read carefully you'll find this:

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All calls are PACIFIC TIME ZONE! That means that Trayvon got the call at 4:04 pm, not 7:04 pm, so it is physically impossible for Deedee to have heard anything.

http://media.nbcbayarea.com/documents/call+log.pdf

Check out the PDF for yourself.

Wait, 7:04 pacific is 10:04 florida, lol, brain fart, so it was after trayvon was dead, but the fact is she didn't call when she said she did.
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Wow, ain't that some bullshit.

You know, people have this image of Ronald Reagan in their heads that is incredibly counter-factual. Man tripled the National Debt, yanno. Spent it on the most preposterously frivolous things, too, like arming both sides of the Iran-Iraq War, supporting the Mujahideen and the Contras, and building a nuclear arsenal to threaten the Russkies with. (Because brinksmanship always ends so well for everybody.)

He'd have been better off "redistributing wealth," since that's money that actually came from somewhere and was spent toward a productive use. How'd our credit-financed investment in Saddam Hussein's ********' Ba'ath regime turn out? I mean, aside from the atrocities, the Gulf War, the failed Shi'ite uprising, and the later invasion to remove him.
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All calls are PACIFIC TIME ZONE! That means that Trayvon got the call at 4:04 pm, not 7:04 pm, so it is physically impossible for Deedee to have heard anything.
Yeah, my usage thing on the T-Mobile site says the same thing. Nonetheless, all the times are EST. The T-Mobile website is really shitty.
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All calls are PACIFIC TIME ZONE! That means that Trayvon got the call at 4:04 pm, not 7:04 pm, so it is physically impossible for Deedee to have heard anything.
Yeah, my usage thing on the T-Mobile site says the same thing. Nonetheless, all the times are EST. The T-Mobile website is really shitty.
I don't have T-mobile, but I find it hard to believe that a company as big as them would make an oversight like that. I suppose it's not completely impossible, but I can't just take your word for it when you might not even be a T-mobile customer. People on the internet can bullshit and there is no way to tell if they are telling the truth, no offense meant. I will look into it independently.
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I don't have T-mobile, but I find it hard to believe that a company as big as them would make an oversight like that. I suppose it's not completely impossible, but I can't just take your word for it when you might not even be a T-mobile customer. People on the internet can bullshit and there is no way to tell if they are telling the truth, no offense meant.
Whenever somebody trusts a company to be accurate in all their statements, I always wonder if those people have ever worked in customer service.

Anyway, I suppose I could screenshot my customer account page, and then take a picture of the call log on my phone, and so on, but then I checked and realized I'm all out of ******** to give. I'm not running a ******** charity, here. You these ******** grow on trees or something? It's like Grapes of Wrath here, except instead of jobs, there's a dearth of ********.

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I will look into it independently.
By which I assume you'll wait for a conservative blogger to realize they might not be brilliant independent investigators.

I'll check back after my appointment with Godot.
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Never mind that the Ba'ath party actually is socialist, without having to play around with definitions.
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The reply I made to Ban on the previous page was intended for you as well. I guess I didn't remember to quote you too.
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I don't have T-mobile, but I find it hard to believe that a company as big as them would make an oversight like that. I suppose it's not completely impossible, but I can't just take your word for it when you might not even be a T-mobile customer. People on the internet can bullshit and there is no way to tell if they are telling the truth, no offense meant.
Whenever somebody trusts a company to be accurate in all their statements, I always wonder if those people have ever worked in customer service.

Anyway, I suppose I could screenshot my customer account page, and then take a picture of the call log on my phone, and so on, but then I checked and realized I'm all out of ******** to give. I'm not running a ******** charity, here. You these ******** grow on trees or something? It's like Grapes of Wrath here, except instead of jobs, there's a dearth of ********.

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I will look into it independently.
By which I assume you'll wait for a conservative blogger to realize they might not be brilliant independent investigators.

I'll check back after my appointment with Godot.


And I'm trying to contact people from elsewhere in the country since I am in Pacific timezone, who use T-mobile in order to get them to answer the question without having prior bias. I did contact T-Mobile too (1-877-778-2106) and inform them of the situation. The two customer service representatives I spoke to said that they did not believe there was an error, and that if it says 7:04 pm pacific time, then it was 10:04 pm eastern time, but they were't 100% certain. The second CSR did say that they would contact their manager and if anything relevant was discovered they might post it on the T-Mobile website,

Anyway, I am not stopping there, still trying to contact people.
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And I'm trying to contact people from elsewhere in the country since I am in Pacific timezone, who use T-mobile in order to get them to answer the question without having prior bias. I did contact T-Mobile too (1-877-778-2106) and inform them of the situation. The two customer service representatives I spoke to said that they did not believe there was an error, and that if it says 7:04 pm pacific time, then it was 10:04 pm eastern time, but they were't 100% certain. The second CSR did say that they would contact their manager and if anything relevant was discovered they might post it on the T-Mobile website,
******** hell, I used to have that job. Here's a hint. They don't ******** care. They're not paid enough to care. They're graded on their call times, so when somebody who doesn't have an account calls up with a non-problem like that, they will basically tell you whatever gets you off the phone quicker.
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And I'm trying to contact people from elsewhere in the country since I am in Pacific timezone, who use T-mobile in order to get them to answer the question without having prior bias. I did contact T-Mobile too (1-877-778-2106) and inform them of the situation. The two customer service representatives I spoke to said that they did not believe there was an error, and that if it says 7:04 pm pacific time, then it was 10:04 pm eastern time, but they were't 100% certain. The second CSR did say that they would contact their manager and if anything relevant was discovered they might post it on the T-Mobile website,
******** hell, I used to have that job. Here's a hint. They don't ******** care. They're not paid enough to care. They're graded on their call times, so when somebody who doesn't have an account calls up with a non-problem like that, they will basically tell you whatever gets you off the phone quicker.
I also contacted ABC and suggested that they investigate it, plus, like I said, I wasn't taking what those CSR's said as fact I am still trying to find answers from other sources, so you can't say I'm doing anything wrong, lol. I'm trying to get to the bottom of this and get the true facts. Keep in mind that even if she did call at 7:04 Florida time, that doesn't mean that she heard what she claimed she heard because it's parts of her statement as Benjamin Crump relayed it do not line up with the rest of the evidence concerning that night, but if she did call at 10:04 that would indicate a fraud being perpetrated against the American people, and we need to get to the bottom of that too.
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Hehe, customer service.
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I also contacted ABC and suggested that they investigate it, plus, like I said, I wasn't taking what those CSR's said as fact I am still trying to find answers from other sources, so you can't say I'm doing anything wrong, lol.
I can say that I regret bothering trying to correct the misconception you obtained from a conservative blog, because now you're just spreading the misery of being incorrect onto a bunch of people who don't give a s**t about your search for trufax

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I'm trying to get to the bottom of this and get the true facts.
This is the ******** problem with blogs. Everybody thinks they're Sherlock ******** Holmes now.

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Keep in mind that even if she did call at 7:04 Florida time, that doesn't mean that she heard what she claimed she heard because it's parts of her statement as Benjamin Crump relayed it do not line up with the rest of the evidence concerning that night, but if she did call at 10:04 that would indicate a fraud being perpetrated against the American people, and we need to get to the bottom of that too.
DO NOT CARE.

Look. I'll try and give one more ********, here, BUT YOU OWE ME DAMMIT.

Here's a crappy screenshot of my account. [1] (Numbers are blacked out, but my name is visible. It's Dashiell, bee tee dubs). Here's the inexpert pasting over of the next screen, which I suppose I could have fixed, but that would require more ********. [2] Here's the next inexpert pasting over with my Gaia account showing and a hidden message.[3]

So, goddammit, stop bothering people. "Fraud perpetrated against the American people," what the ********?

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