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I am in agreement with you. In just about every instance those who criticize Fox News have never even sat down and watched even a few seconds of it before. If they did they would see that they always features both conservative and liberal speakers. It only seems right-wing because all of the other news stations out there are so far to the left, where instead of a conservative and a liberal you get liberal and even more liberal. There is a reason Fox News is the most watched and trusted cable news station in America. Because it reflects the views of the average American. It shows the stories the "mainstream" media outlets will not cover, including major events. It provides a balance of both sides for greater perspectives. Stations like MSNBC though only reflect the fringe views of people living in New York City and San Francisco, the isolated bastions of liberalism within a country dominated by rural conservatism and suburban moderation. The people on MSNBC and other "mainstream" media outlets take an elitist view that their liberal beliefs are superior and that the rest of us not living in of those big cities are ignorant and backwards and need government, and their liberal orthodoxy to save us from ourselves.

I watch Fox News, and I can say that its about half-and-half. Most of the shows on FNC are pretty average, and have no agenda to them. Fox News does include liberals, but often enough on pundit shows such as Hannity, they are not treated fairly; the conservative host and second conservative guest simply gang up on the liberal one. And no, I'm not saying that's any beter than MSNBC, where the opposite is taking place, but it does need to be mentioned
I watched an entire episode of Hannity when he did a piece on the water crisis in California and he managed to present the issue in the most over simplified and right slanted I ever seen. He treat a voiceother side of coin as a "liberal loon", but in reality it was a man representing the devastated fishing industry. An industry that hurt itself by overfishing, just as the agriculture industry hurt it self with overfishing. Hannity blatantly ignored the issue that farmers where selling their water rights as well. The show episode was filmed in devastated cotton field, but the issue was food agriculture.

And the live crowd was awful, booing Democrat Jim Costa, a man working with his collegues (Nunes and some other guy, both Republican) on the grounds of that he was a democrat.

On another note, when Colmes was part of the show he was essentially a butt monkey for Hannity. (A moderate butt monkey labelled by Fox as "hard hitting liberal" )
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I am in agreement with you. In just about every instance those who criticize Fox News have never even sat down and watched even a few seconds of it before. If they did they would see that they always features both conservative and liberal speakers. It only seems right-wing because all of the other news stations out there are so far to the left, where instead of a conservative and a liberal you get liberal and even more liberal. There is a reason Fox News is the most watched and trusted cable news station in America. Because it reflects the views of the average American. It shows the stories the "mainstream" media outlets will not cover, including major events. It provides a balance of both sides for greater perspectives. Stations like MSNBC though only reflect the fringe views of people living in New York City and San Francisco, the isolated bastions of liberalism within a country dominated by rural conservatism and suburban moderation. The people on MSNBC and other "mainstream" media outlets take an elitist view that their liberal beliefs are superior and that the rest of us not living in of those big cities are ignorant and backwards and need government, and their liberal orthodoxy to save us from ourselves.

I watch Fox News, and I can say that its about half-and-half. Most of the shows on FNC are pretty average, and have no agenda to them. Fox News does include liberals, but often enough on pundit shows such as Hannity, they are not treated fairly; the conservative host and second conservative guest simply gang up on the liberal one. And no, I'm not saying that's any beter than MSNBC, where the opposite is taking place, but it does need to be mentioned
I watched an entire episode of Hannity when he did a piece on the water crisis in California and he managed to present the issue in the most over simplified and right slanted I ever seen. He treat a voiceother side of coin as a "liberal loon", but in reality it was a man representing the devastated fishing industry. An industry that hurt itself by overfishing, just as the agriculture industry hurt it self with overfishing. Hannity blatantly ignored the issue that farmers where selling their water rights as well. The show episode was filmed in devastated cotton field, but the issue was food agriculture.

And the live crowd was awful, booing Democrat Jim Costa, a man working with his collegues (Nunes and some other guy, both Republican) on the grounds of that he was a democrat.

On another note, when Colmes was part of the show he was essentially a butt monkey for Hannity. (A moderate butt monkey labelled by Fox as "hard hitting liberal" )


First point, I don't watch any of the talking heads. But to equate them to being 'news' is misleading at best. Talking heads aren't news. They're opinion pieces. The reason that FOX has them on is, quite bluntly, they are the most popular of the talking heads and they make a shitload of money off them.

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Wait, wait, hold on, when did they mention Lesbian Street Gangs and Mass Effect being pornographic?


Lesbian street gangs


Double the larfs for saying that "Pink Pistols" were a street gang, considering I'm a member. FUnny, I always thought we were a second amendment advocacy group...

As for Mass Effect


There's your trusted news channel, Ikari.
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It appears that people who watch Fox News are certainly the least informed. They are less informed than people who watch no news at all.

Quote:
Fox News viewers answered 1.08 questions correctly when asked about international stories, compared to a 1.23 score for MSNBC viewers, and a 1.33 score for CNN viewers. NPR listeners performed by far the best with a score of 1.97. The study actually found that Fox News and MSNBC viewers scored worse than those who consulted no news source at all over the last week.

The scores for Fox News viewers were worse on domestic story questions. Fox News viewers were able to answer 1.04 questions correctly, compared to a 1.22 score for those who watched no news at all, and a 1.26 score for MSNBC and CNN viewers. Once again, NPR listeners were the most informed with a score of 1.51.


Maybe more time should be spent on NPR and less on the TV shows.


After having listened to both NPR and Fox Radio News, I have found their coverage to be very similar. Perhaps that means radio is the way to listen to good news.

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I am in agreement with you. In just about every instance those who criticize Fox News have never even sat down and watched even a few seconds of it before. If they did they would see that they always features both conservative and liberal speakers. It only seems right-wing because all of the other news stations out there are so far to the left, where instead of a conservative and a liberal you get liberal and even more liberal. There is a reason Fox News is the most watched and trusted cable news station in America. Because it reflects the views of the average American. It shows the stories the "mainstream" media outlets will not cover, including major events. It provides a balance of both sides for greater perspectives. Stations like MSNBC though only reflect the fringe views of people living in New York City and San Francisco, the isolated bastions of liberalism within a country dominated by rural conservatism and suburban moderation. The people on MSNBC and other "mainstream" media outlets take an elitist view that their liberal beliefs are superior and that the rest of us not living in of those big cities are ignorant and backwards and need government, and their liberal orthodoxy to save us from ourselves.

I watch Fox News, and I can say that its about half-and-half. Most of the shows on FNC are pretty average, and have no agenda to them. Fox News does include liberals, but often enough on pundit shows such as Hannity, they are not treated fairly; the conservative host and second conservative guest simply gang up on the liberal one. And no, I'm not saying that's any beter than MSNBC, where the opposite is taking place, but it does need to be mentioned
I watched an entire episode of Hannity when he did a piece on the water crisis in California and he managed to present the issue in the most over simplified and right slanted I ever seen. He treat a voiceother side of coin as a "liberal loon", but in reality it was a man representing the devastated fishing industry. An industry that hurt itself by overfishing, just as the agriculture industry hurt it self with overfishing. Hannity blatantly ignored the issue that farmers where selling their water rights as well. The show episode was filmed in devastated cotton field, but the issue was food agriculture.

And the live crowd was awful, booing Democrat Jim Costa, a man working with his collegues (Nunes and some other guy, both Republican) on the grounds of that he was a democrat.

On another note, when Colmes was part of the show he was essentially a butt monkey for Hannity. (A moderate butt monkey labelled by Fox as "hard hitting liberal" )


First point, I don't watch any of the talking heads. But to equate them to being 'news' is misleading at best. Talking heads aren't news. They're opinion pieces. The reason that FOX has them on is, quite bluntly, they are the most popular of the talking heads and they make a shitload of money off them.
I do agree with this, as the same is true for MSNBC primetime line up. I just was giving my experience with the Hannity show in particular.

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Wait, wait, hold on, when did they mention Lesbian Street Gangs and Mass Effect being pornographic?


Lesbian street gangs


Double the larfs for saying that "Pink Pistols" were a street gang, considering I'm a member. FUnny, I always thought we were a second amendment advocacy group...

As for Mass Effect


There's your trusted news channel, Ikari.


Is it sad that I learned about how bad fox truly is from HOW they jumped on the anti-video game debate, long long before I've learned of a man named Obama, and the sudden socialism scares?
News is relative.

Let's see.

CNN: Presidential inauguration, people kissing BOs a** "please mr obama save us!", primate morality, godless mom, Eastern European politician with gun to his head, home owner uses gun to confront thief

(MS)NBC obama 2nd term, boy dies of thirst, france and mali, animals seized from home, climate change laws, politician seen in Waco documentary backs gun control, dog gets million likes on facebook

CNBC: new york stock exchange being sold, obama sworn in, flu season and paid sick leave debate, porn industry, detroit autoshow concept cars, jackie chan s**t talks America

Fox: Gun laws will pass, gun appreciation day, Obama sworn in, waiter defends disabled boy, hostages in algeria, batmobile sells for 4 million, most beautiful churches, mconaughey gets fat, 70mpg truck

Well, you can make of that what you will, but it's mainstream media. It's mostly crap, and the channels with the best slide shows win.
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Prince Ikari
I am in agreement with you. In just about every instance those who criticize Fox News have never even sat down and watched even a few seconds of it before. If they did they would see that they always features both conservative and liberal speakers. It only seems right-wing because all of the other news stations out there are so far to the left, where instead of a conservative and a liberal you get liberal and even more liberal. There is a reason Fox News is the most watched and trusted cable news station in America. Because it reflects the views of the average American. It shows the stories the "mainstream" media outlets will not cover, including major events. It provides a balance of both sides for greater perspectives. Stations like MSNBC though only reflect the fringe views of people living in New York City and San Francisco, the isolated bastions of liberalism within a country dominated by rural conservatism and suburban moderation. The people on MSNBC and other "mainstream" media outlets take an elitist view that their liberal beliefs are superior and that the rest of us not living in of those big cities are ignorant and backwards and need government, and their liberal orthodoxy to save us from ourselves.

I watch Fox News, and I can say that its about half-and-half. Most of the shows on FNC are pretty average, and have no agenda to them. Fox News does include liberals, but often enough on pundit shows such as Hannity, they are not treated fairly; the conservative host and second conservative guest simply gang up on the liberal one. And no, I'm not saying that's any beter than MSNBC, where the opposite is taking place, but it does need to be mentioned
I watched an entire episode of Hannity when he did a piece on the water crisis in California and he managed to present the issue in the most over simplified and right slanted I ever seen. He treat a voiceother side of coin as a "liberal loon", but in reality it was a man representing the devastated fishing industry. An industry that hurt itself by overfishing, just as the agriculture industry hurt it self with overfishing. Hannity blatantly ignored the issue that farmers where selling their water rights as well. The show episode was filmed in devastated cotton field, but the issue was food agriculture.

And the live crowd was awful, booing Democrat Jim Costa, a man working with his collegues (Nunes and some other guy, both Republican) on the grounds of that he was a democrat.

On another note, when Colmes was part of the show he was essentially a butt monkey for Hannity. (A moderate butt monkey labelled by Fox as "hard hitting liberal" )


First point, I don't watch any of the talking heads. But to equate them to being 'news' is misleading at best. Talking heads aren't news. They're opinion pieces. The reason that FOX has them on is, quite bluntly, they are the most popular of the talking heads and they make a shitload of money off them.




Preach my friend preach!

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First point, I don't watch any of the talking heads. But to equate them to being 'news' is misleading at best. Talking heads aren't news. They're opinion pieces. The reason that FOX has them on is, quite bluntly, they are the most popular of the talking heads and they make a shitload of money off them.
Their news shows ain't news either, bud.
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First point, I don't watch any of the talking heads. But to equate them to being 'news' is misleading at best. Talking heads aren't news. They're opinion pieces. The reason that FOX has them on is, quite bluntly, they are the most popular of the talking heads and they make a shitload of money off them.
Their news shows ain't news either, bud.


There news shows aren't any worse than those presented by the left, which is why I usually don't watch news but read the articles from opposing views, knowing the truth is somewhere in the middle.

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While most of FOX's on-air personalities are a pain and you can lose braincells just by reading their names, I have to say, I do rather enjoy John Stossel from time to time.
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While most of FOX's on-air personalities are a pain and you can lose braincells just by reading their names, I have to say, I do rather enjoy John Stossel from time to time.


Ah, so you're a masochist then.

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Let's put it this way: If Fox News 'catches hell' for anything, then I guess that means a lot of people disagree with them.

And really, the reaffirmation that there are still people out there who dislike Fox News brightens my day.

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        Catches so much hell for being right-wing.
        When 90% of media in general is left-wing.
        Gee.

Ahhh, Fox News, proof that being partisan is OK as long as every other media source is perceived as partisan. Fair 'n balanced my a**.

You can have Rupert, he's already working his hardest to sink our National Broadband Network through his chain of thoroughly flailing newspaper businesses.

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