If you beat black and white, you proved most clauses are BS

[Uncle Urdnot]

Nimbasa Gym, The trainers have double teaming emolgas, and you can't get around those trainers. To have beaten B&W legitimately you would've had to have fought double team pokemon and won.
And 2nd gym Watchdog spams hypnosis. Problem sleep clause?
So they're either fair, or smogon hacked the game.
Mad?

[__penguin__]

They've always been fair. But they're cheap ways to win that require little strategy, so most people prefer to play without them.

[Undead Hatter]

I remember first gym was full of unfair spam, 2nd gym that watchhog kept spamming that one move that she gives out after beating her. 3rd gym spam, etc... D:

[Silverchick]

Those emolgas pissed me off so damn bad

[Plaid Cushion]

Stop hating on smogon. You don't have to use the clauses if you don't want to. :/

And hacking is altering the game with a third party device. Restricting the use of moves or items as a battle clause is not hacking, its setting up a rule.

[Chaotic Rhythm]

Also grinding is a b***h. Besides I had Victini in my party so DT didn't matter much especially when I used smack down on those little ********.

[Pawlas Cathena]

I just poisoned the Emolga and watched them suffer. XD And I brought in a Sawk to troll Lenora.

[Plaid Cushion]

Roxore

I remember first gym was full of unfair spam, 2nd gym that watchhog kept spamming that one move that she gives out after beating her. 3rd gym spam, etc... D:

The potion spam was worse, but then it always is. Get the leader down to red, they heal. Rinse and repeat 4 times before each of their pokemon finally faint, while your poor team lies in ruins.

[Undead Hatter]

Plaid Cushion

Roxore

I remember first gym was full of unfair spam, 2nd gym that watchhog kept spamming that one move that she gives out after beating her. 3rd gym spam, etc... D:

The potion spam was worse, but then it always is. Get the leader down to red, they heal. Rinse and repeat 4 times before each of their pokemon finally faint, while your poor team lies in ruins.

I had to keep lvling up my PKMN until I was over her by 10 lvls D: still had trouble but that was on the first day playing beat the game under 3 days. smile

[Plaid Cushion]

Roxore

I had to keep lvling up my PKMN until I was over her by 10 lvls D: still had trouble but that was on the first day playing beat the game under 3 days. smile

I'm on my 5th day, now? Just sitting at the league collecting items from victory road and trying to level my pokemon a bit. I spent some time audino farming early on, which helped heaps.

[Undead Hatter]

Plaid Cushion

Roxore

I had to keep lvling up my PKMN until I was over her by 10 lvls D: still had trouble but that was on the first day playing beat the game under 3 days. smile

I'm on my 5th day, now? Just sitting at the league collecting items from victory road and trying to level my pokemon a bit. I spent some time audino farming early on, which helped heaps.

I warn you if you are going on your first ending (Lvls 40-50) make sure your PKMN are near there 70s because once you beat them once you have to get ready to battle trainers with PKMN in lvls 60-80 D:

[top homosexual]

Super 9-Volt

I just poisoned the Emolga and watched them suffer. XD And I brought in a Sawk to troll Lenora.

For me Sandile Crunched the shi* out of Emolgas. Oh and my Dewott's rage grew so powerful at the Second gym that he OHKO'D all of Lenora's Pokes with Shell Blade

[Plaid Cushion]

Roxore

Plaid Cushion

Roxore

I had to keep lvling up my PKMN until I was over her by 10 lvls D: still had trouble but that was on the first day playing beat the game under 3 days. smile

I'm on my 5th day, now? Just sitting at the league collecting items from victory road and trying to level my pokemon a bit. I spent some time audino farming early on, which helped heaps.

I warn you if you are going on your first ending (Lvls 40-50) make sure your PKMN are near there 70s because once you beat them once you have to get ready to battle trainers with PKMN in lvls 60-80 D:

They're only mid 40s now D:

I suppose I can try league running or audino farming again.

[Devil_Tony_33]

OverIy Epux

Nimbasa Gym, The trainers have double teaming emolgas, and you can't get around those trainers. To have beaten B&W legitimately you would've had to have fought double team pokemon and won.
And 2nd gym Watchdog spams hypnosis. Problem sleep clause?
So they're either fair, or smogon hacked the game.
Mad?

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Lol Zebstrika at Nimbasa Gym always snap out of confusion after 2nd turn of confusion..
hmm




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[Uncle Urdnot]

Plaid Cushion

Stop hating on smogon. You don't have to use the clauses if you don't want to. :/

And hacking is altering the game with a third party device. Restricting the use of moves or items as a battle clause is not hacking, its setting up a rule.

Stop posting in threads you don't agree with then c;
And if they beat the Evasion/Sleep spam, then it's abviously not too cheap to beat.
If they beat the game without doing that, they hacked it, because those pokemon matches are unavoidable.