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Do you think it was wrong of Gaia to copy and alter an independent artist's creative property for commercial purposes?

Yes 0.74899162271176 74.9% [ 2414 ]
No 0.25100837728824 25.1% [ 809 ]
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IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT


Zero Omega
Hey everyone,

I wanted to take a moment and thank everyone for their feedback and concerns about this. We at Gaia certainly don't want to give the impression that we do not honor the work of other artists who work hard to provide content for everyone to enjoy. We take situations like this very seriously and are more than happy to review our content and ensure that these issues are resolved in a way that is fair to all parties involved.

That being said, we have forwarded this concern over to the appropriate people to have it looked into.

Thanks everyone!


The concerns of this petition have been officially recognized and action is being taken to address them! The thread will remain open for discussion and signatures, and I will catch up with the signature list tomorrow, so that everyone who has taken the time to lend their support can be accounted for.

It was politely requested that the OP be restructured for ease of comprehension, as well as to include frequent points of concern raised throughout the thread. I have the original OP saved in the event that someone would like to read it.

About This Petition


What happened?

An item was released in April through the Cash Shop containing derivative designs of the iconic symbols for the four main characters in the webcomic Homestuck. This was done without the creator's consent, and no attempt to contact the creator, Andrew Hussie, was made previous to their release. Andrew has publicly stated that he would not like his IP to be used without permission.

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What about the zodiac mood bubbles?

These were available through the same RIG as the kid's icons. They're related to the comic (as those in the comic use the same particular colors), and were released at the same time for that reason, but zodiac symbols are public domain and are free to use by anyone. It simply made the intended reference more obvious.

And the Candy Horns?

Most of the variations on this new item, creatable through formulas you can find, not buy, are either generic or recolored versions of previously available horn styles. Four styles, however, were lifted from designs present in the comic. The Hooked, Jagged, Arrow, and Dual horns are new item models and not recolors. While no money is involved with these items, Gaia chose to borrow designs rather than create their own. Once again, the creator was not contacted.

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The ToT Tote horns from October 2008 are not the horns in question. The origin of the Homestuck horns is a throwback to the candycorn vampire gag in Problem Sleuth, which began in March 2008. Their existence is unrelated.

Did Andrew ever try to contact Gaia?

Andrew's communications representative made attempts on multiple occasions to multiple e-mails with no response. Whether the information they had was bad, or the e-mails were overlooked has yet to be determined. At the time, the staff did not have the time or manpower to dedicate towards further attempts.

Have they tried again more recently?

New contact information has been acquired and fresh attempts will be made during business hours this week.

But some of the Gaia staffmembers are Homestuck fans!

That being the case, it blows my mind that approaching Andrew about possible Homestuck themed Gaia items wasn't their first order of business.

Green worms, purple martians, candycorn horns... these ideas aren't unique, what's the big deal!?

No, they aren't unique ideas, but ideas and concepts can't be copyrighted. An artist's particular interpretation of an idea, however, can. It has been accurately pointed out that the atomic symbol is sufficiently generic to evade ownership, but the unique way in which Andrew has designed the original green ghost, purple eldritch horror, and vinyl record are protected under US copyright law. The changes made by Gaia staff are not significant enough to be considered unique renderings, therefore they are in violation of Andrew's copyright.

It's a difficult concept to wrap your head around, so consider the following: Suppose you were to take Starbucks' logo, change the color from dark green to light green, and re-draw it with the same composition and proportions, but maybe change the hair from wavy to straight. Then, you took that logo and started to use it for your own company, on both promotional materials and products. Do you think Starbucks would be right to request a cease and desist or take legal action?

Many Gaia members in opposition of this petition have also commented that they don't even recognize the Homestuck symbols, and since they didn't even know about Homestuck, it must not be unique enough to be protected. What if, in this hypothetical situation, the customers of this other company weren't familiar with the Starbucks logo. Does the fact that they don't recognize what it's from absolve it from being a copyright infringement?

But they're parodies! That's protected under Fair Use!

Fair Use is not a catch-all shield absolving derivative work from copyright violation. It is a clause built into US copyright law designed to permit LIMITED use of copyrighted material under certain criteria as a provision for free speech.

The clause favors use under the pretense of criticism or commentary (comical or otherwise), news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research, and takes into consideration the intent of the derivative work, the purpose (commercial or nonprofit), and its effect on the potential market or value of the original, copyrighted work.

These items do not make any sort of statement about the source of the images, nor do they measure up in terms of intent. Whether they are for sale or can be acquired through other means, items in Gaia serve a commercial purpose. Creating desirable items to encourage users to participate in their service is marketing, and in cases where Gaia Cash is involved, revenue building as well.

Andrew uses famous likenesses and logos in his comic, which makes money through ads. That must mean he's violating copyright law too!

Advertisers are not paying for his comic, they are paying for space on his website. It has been argued that advertisers wouldn't want the web space if not for the content of the comic, but the comic isn't about these copyrighted materials, nor are they being used for other commercial purposes. He is not using them to advertise his comic, nor on merchandise, nor in any other way that accumulates revenue or promotes his work.

His exaggerated portrayal of Nic Cage as an acting paragon is a satirical caricature, and Betty Crocker's ludicrous scope of non-baking products is satire as well (socioeconomic criticism of a massive corporation). It is worth noting that proper licenses were purchased for the production and sale of covers of existing songs in their albums. If the comic itself becomes a physical, purchasable product, similar steps will be taken to ensure its distribution is legal.

Gaia does this all the time to all kinds of media. What makes Homestuck so special? Why aren't you campaigning to have ALL copyrighted material removed?

Because I don't represent those entities, so I cannot speak for them. It is up to Gaia to contact companies before copyrighted content is used, and it is up to the individual companies whose content is used to pursue the issue if they disagree with said content's use. I am a representative of Homestuck, other intellectual properties are not my responsibility, nor my right to pursue.

If you feel strongly about this issue, feel free to make your own petition to champion (or oppose) it.

Do you really want the items removed?

Yes. I have waffled a bit on this stance, since the logistics of such a move would be harrowing to say the least, but permission was not given for there use, therefore they should never have been released. Even if the items themselves are not physically removed, altering their physical appearance to feature original designs would serve the same purpose and avoid the issue of fairness and appropriate compensation to the item holders.

If Gaia opens direct communication with Andrew and another solution is reached, such as properly crediting the items or compensation, that is ultimately a matter to be decided between the two parties.

If this is ultimately a private decision, why the public petition?

Public opinion is important, and I don't think it is contradictory to desire it. If businesses didn't make decisions based on the needs and opinions of their target demographics, we'd have a lot of failed businesses on our hands. This petition has spurred a massive outpouring of feedback from both the support and the opposition. While the majority of Homestuck fans support it, and the majority of Gaians oppose it, there have been many non-fans who have added their signatures, as well as a small percentage of fans who have refused.

The decision is up to Gaia and Andrew, but a public consensus benefits both sides in the decision making process.


Thank you for reading! Please sign!


If you are opposed to the ideas presented by this petition, unwilling to let go of the items you have, and are satisfied with the status quo, you are absolutely entitled to your personal views and are free to not sign (even if you are a fan, or support the sentiment).

But, if you're a fan of Homestuck and appreciate the hard work he puts into his comic, please consider showing your respect for his wishes by signing the petition.

Sincerely,

Lexxy, Homestuck Art Team


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I have not been active on gaia in a while, but this is a very important issue.
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