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- Posted: Thu, 22 May 2014 02:53:41 +0000
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With all due respect, if you're looking to promote your book in general, that sort of reaction isn't going to gain you a lot of positive responses around here, nor in dealing with potential readers in general. I get the being sensitive about your work business. I cringed and hid from the first comments on my query for about a week after they came in, and that's not even my story ... just the sales pitch. It's hard not to react strongly to negative comments, but that's when you really need to step away from the computer, take a breather, and then come back when you can respond calmly.
Regardless of whether or not you're looking to promote your story here, everything you do and say online is a part of your public image. In order to maintain a positive one, you need to assume that anything you say can be seen and read by a larger audience at all times. Or simply create an account that has no connection to your writing whatsoever and have a ball there. Either or.
Creating and maintaining a positive public image is a lot of work. And it doesn't take much to undo things that you've worked hard to set in place. Even if you don't care about a single potential reader, how you react to them is going to impact how other people look at what you say and do.
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That aside, I'm quite surprised that 30k was considered long enough to be a novel by Amazon's standards. My current story in revision is 54k and I've been fretting over that because it doesn't feel like it's nearly long enough to be considered a novel-length story.
o.o Also ... wowsa. My friend's second book is ranked #16 in new releases in Cyberpunk (Virtual Immortality. Division Zero is possibly too old to still rank. Can't find it under the top 30 new at any rate). I wouldn't have known (or bothered) to look that up before stumbling across this topic.
Regardless of whether or not you're looking to promote your story here, everything you do and say online is a part of your public image. In order to maintain a positive one, you need to assume that anything you say can be seen and read by a larger audience at all times. Or simply create an account that has no connection to your writing whatsoever and have a ball there. Either or.
Creating and maintaining a positive public image is a lot of work. And it doesn't take much to undo things that you've worked hard to set in place. Even if you don't care about a single potential reader, how you react to them is going to impact how other people look at what you say and do.
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That aside, I'm quite surprised that 30k was considered long enough to be a novel by Amazon's standards. My current story in revision is 54k and I've been fretting over that because it doesn't feel like it's nearly long enough to be considered a novel-length story.
o.o Also ... wowsa. My friend's second book is ranked #16 in new releases in Cyberpunk (Virtual Immortality. Division Zero is possibly too old to still rank. Can't find it under the top 30 new at any rate). I wouldn't have known (or bothered) to look that up before stumbling across this topic.
i have no problem with constructive criticism in the least bit. every review i've used to better my craft. what pissed me off was her attempt at belittling me and pretty much calling me a liar for mentioning that my book was #1. when i showed the proof and explained that everything she talked about was fixed (as far as grammar and editing ) i'm suddenly rude? when i explain to her that the company i'm with his new but has produced numerous best sellers since it's launch last year, i'm suddenly rude? if that's the case then i don't want someone like her reading anything that i work on. it wasn't amazon's policy it was my publishers words that 30k was the minimum. Young Lady was my debut novel and it did extremely well in the first few weeks of it's release. she had clearly stated that she wasn't going to buy the book anyways so for her to say " you lost a potential reader" simply for me correcting her? please stare
Clearing the air, and then I'm gone.
1. I said I found your claim at being #1 doubtful. And since the Doctor has not come by to pick me up in the TARDIS, I could not see the time you were at the #1 spot. I said when I did my research you were at #53 for African-American lit. That is your current ranking. No one looking you up now will see your #1. I am glad you hit #1 in your debut stage, #53 in a market like African-American Lit isn't a bad deal, it's rather impressive, but your claim made it sound like you were currently #1. At least concede to the fact that anyone looking at your book NOW will not see your #1 status, as it has come and gone.
2. I did also say that if your book came across my reader's list as a freebie, I'd give it consideration. I often get books of authors I've talked to, even it they don't interest me, if they come across on sale in my feed. Guess you missed that line. I had been entertaining the idea of checking out your book, or books by the other Peach Dollhouse authors until you decided to be rude.
3. You were rude. You took such an offense to what I said as if I were calling your work crap, when all I intended was to a) show that your work did exist (we have had people make false claims to books before) and b) show what was being said. I didn't say all your reviews were bad, I did point out there were people who liked your book. I think I even said it was early in the books stages. I made a suggestion to having your publishing company get out into conventions to promote themselves as a new company, and to clean up the website since it does not promote a professional image. I suggested you look closer at what the editor suggested as grammar was the number one complaint (and you were rude in your answer to me). I even wished you luck.
As terradi said, what you do on (and off) line promotes your image. You are not promoting a good image for yourself or your publishing company. You don't like that I said you lost a reader. Well, honey, I'm sure others have viewed these posts and were turned off without printing a word. And people talk. If you handled this well, the word going around would have been how mature you were and that I would strongly consider looking into your book and publishing company for future books to read. However, now I'm not interested. And that word does get around. The next time someone says something about your story you don't like, either ignore them or, better still, look at what they wrote and take any honest advise in there and apply it.
i think all of this got mixed up. i was not rude at all. i simply corrected you or clarified. what i did take offense to was probably my bad but to me it looked like you were calling me a liar when i made my claim of #1. i know someone looking at it now wouldn't see that. but again this post wasn't even about my book. i was simply asking if anybody else was publishing. that's what this topic was about. im open to all criticism and advice about my work simply because i want to better my craft. i don't represent my publishing company. i represent myself. now i don't know about anybody else making false claims about their books but that has nothing to do with me. this conversation got way off topic honestly. i don't even see how this was made to be about my book in the first place. people can talk all they want now. because honestly, i think any new author would have probably taken offense to some of the things you said. it wasn't immature for me to post the screenshots of my achievements when i felt like i was being called a liar. it wasn't immature for me to clarify things that were fixed when you mentioned the reviews talking about the editing and grammar. if you're not interested in the book any longer that's fine by me. if you don't want to read any of the books by Peach Dollhouse, that's fine by me. but i personally feel like you took what i said as rude when that wasn't my intentions to be rude in the first place.
