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At least a "b***h" has an actual character unlike some of the wasted potential and bodies in this series. Oh! And I love how you didn't bother to offer a counter that is actually worth its salt. Of course, I should have expected such a pathetic response from a nitwit like yourself.


i see, you cant counter it,
well i see i have prevail, because when you berate orphans for being orphans, and manipulate orphans for your own personal gain, then lie to them and invalidate their cause, and becoming so much of a bad character that the creator of the manga dislikes you , as well as being a completely undeveloped badly written generic 1 dimensional heartless peace of pink haired sh***, isnt arguable.

i just think you got the hots for a manga character and cant see the forest for the tree's , because if you say sakura is developed in any sense of the word (hah puberty joke) you need to read more, may i suggest watching ghost in the shell , maybe you will know what a real female



Kishimoto has a Sakura keychain near where he writes his Manga, he has also defended her in interveiws, where in the world are you getting this idea that Kishimoto HATES his own character? LOL...He LOVES all his characters...they are his creations afterall...Kishimoto always saying good things about her, in all 3 of the databooks he shows how he veiws her actions. *which overall are very good btw, how odd if he hates her....ermmm I wonder who's not telling the truth here...? lol..*

when has Sakura berated Naruto for being a orphan...? are you for real talking about chapter 3 like it still counts as being debatable at THIS point in the Manga? rolleyes I just...I can't even...*dies* emotion_zombie


1 obviously you havent kept up , because he has said he wrote the later sakura chapters in introsepection of the character.

next berating orphans was never forgiven, and she still does it, and lies, cheats, manipulates, and pusses out.



no she doesn't..LOL.. and you act like I don't read the Manga... emotion_awesome
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I've been seeing a lot of posts, websites and a whole lot other things about people hating Sakura.
I honestly don't see why you guys hate her.
Yes maybe because she was useless at first just because she was head-over-heels with Sasuke (and maybe still), she doesn't really have a special Ninjutsu like the other ninjas, how she talks or acts but seriously.
She's saving lives everyday and she might likely be the head doctor of all hospitals and Medical Ninjutsu in the village. She saved Kankuro, Hinata, Naruto (may not be life threatening but still) and a whole lot others.

Give me a VERY DAMN good reason why you hate her.
It better be good.

ahem she constantly berates an orphan, for being an orphan like he has control of him not having any parents and then constantly comparing him to her crush knowing that he has feeligs for hher

and then she proceeds to maninupate that orphan to get the other orphan back for her so she can have ninja sex with the other orphan complete disregarding naruto's feelings at all

and then when she finds out naruto's history and powers, she pulls the kagome card and starts acting like now she can control what he does with them, it doesent work out but she tried, and then finding out that hokage 4 and and the most badass never used character naruto's mom went died strait up gangsta after giving birth defending there baby village 9 tail foxx ect. still treats naruto like s**t and strait up lies to his face saying she likes him so she can try and kill sasuke, complete invalidating all the time naruto has spent lookng for jin, i mean sauske. then she fakes hugs after the while pain thing , but at that point he still didnt like her so good for h im.


the only good come away for this, is that everyone in the comic, even naruto right now thinks she is a b***h with a capitol b***h, and she is basically sidelined out of the plot at this point

if that isnt a good enough reason i dont what is




.....for petes's sake she is a TSUNDERE...not a b***h, can you tell the difference? she is cold and harsh at the beginning, but changes as the series goes, on, does a "b***h" comfort someone when they are sad? nope.

yet here you are, calling her one... no man, just no.. stare Ps, Kagome is a Tsundere too (duh) she isn't truly mean...( but I don't know much about that series other then Kagome is the tsundere in it... sweatdrop )

Sakura has never tried to sleep with anyone, but then your just saying that to be funny clearly... rolleyes


meh, all of these reasons are easy to counter, but I'm too lazy to bother to counter them all...LOL.. just reminding people that Sakura is the Tsundere kinda takes care of most of the unfair things you said anyway... neutral


why are you so harsh on Sakura anyway? neutral


PS,..... I kinda suck at debating... xd but I will try my hardest to talk with you without calling you names or something like that...I WILL keep my temper in check this time...no really...I mean it this time...*shifty eyes* ninja


lets start from the top
trundere isnt a reall thing , in life thats called a b***h

next, when you BERATE AN ORPAN, FOR BEING AN ORPHAN, THERE IS NO COUNTER THERE IS NO EXCUSE, YOU ARE A HORRIBLE PERSON

not go in to the fact that she manipulated said orphan to get her crush back not even factoring , hmm maybe naruto will feel like compete sh**

then , fricking lying to his face to go kil sauske invalidating that whole manipulation thing she had done because she was to weak to get sauske by her damn self.

for a person says my points are arguable you never argued them, its because you cant.

tsundere is a fancy word for b***h, and in real being a b***h, epically of that calibur would get your a** whipped, her character is so sh***ty that kishimote gradually wrote her out of the manga because though introspection he found out that he was writting , not a cute angry character, but rather a heartless monster. the likes only comparable to whrinry from fma



lol no I can debate this, but really, just saying Tsundere really does take care of more then half of your points...and by the way, you didn't MAKE points, you just made up a nice story, which would be fine of this was a fanfiction, but no... it's not.*example being your messed version of why Sakura tried to kill Sasuke*...that isn't what happened and any real fan knows it.and Tsundere is real..I can't believe your a anime fan and you don't know this...it's a Trope. It's been around since the 80's, and no, b***h and Tsundere are no where near the same thing. I think your confusing Tsundere with YANDERE....now THAT'S a b***h. stare I got a feeling you have never heard of either trope...being that you think Tsundere are the "bitchy" ones...lol...

well, here are some sites for ya, consider these my counters.

first a site that explains Tsundere...

Tsundere Trope

Then the one that explains Yandere....

Yandere Trope



these two are nothing alike,but shockingly, many so called anime fans seem to not understand them...

....please don't reply back till AFTER you read them..k? sweatdrop


you DO realize.... you just insulted yourselves..... because i said she is a b***h, that was point, you were the one who brought those Japanese tropes up....
so.....thanks?



do you realize that Tsundere and Yandere are NOT the same thing? LOL.. lol clearly you don't becasue you think I just insulting myslef, Sakura is a TSUNDERE dearie, not a Yandere, learn the difference. rolleyes
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I can't say I know who Shion is


Shion Sonozaki is from Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni, or When They Cry. Shion Sonozaki is the younger identical twin of Mion Sonozaki and she showed up in the second repeat of time within Hinamizawa village, the area where this series takes place. You see her go full yandere in the Meakashi-hen arc (episode 16-21 in season one.) The series set up question arcs and then show what really happened in later arcs.

(SPOILERS IN WHITE BETWEEN THE ASTERISKS)

*After losing her fingernails and other stuff involving her and this boy named Satoshi (who belonged to the pariah of Hinamizawa due to a decision involving a construction of a dam within the village) named Satoshi, she killed her grandmother, the village elder, another character named Rika, laughed like a maniac after another character named Rika refused to let Shion kill her and opted to stab herself repeatedly with a knife, killed Satoshi's little sister, Satoko. Shion's reason was that Satoko was a spoiled brat who didn't care about the pain she puts her brother through. Originally, she just planned to torture Satoko. But, Satoko pissed off Shion about how she's not going to cry and show weakness. She tazed her own sister and had her plummet into a ravine. She then stabbed another lad named Keiiichi in the stomach, and then fell to her death at the end of the arc.*

There's also Kaede Fuyou from the Shuffle anime.

And speaking of bitches, there's the blonde in my sig. Katja is a major sexual sadistic b***h...and she loves every part of that. Oh! Katja-sama!


I have seen shuffle, that one had way too much fanservice tho... sweatdrop ermmm...that series you mentioned sounds a bit too dark for me...I like Tsundere much more, they are funny and sweet on the inside, Yandere's are just so...insane, the only one I really like is Yuno, she is just...badass. emotion_dealwithit emotion_dowant
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-She saved Kankuro
-She found the antidote to a very complex poison
-She killed Sasori
-She beat one of Pain's summons
-She healed countless shinobi
-She informed the whole shinobi alliance of zetsu and his powers
-She Tsunade's student

etc. etc. She is just un-hateable.

SO

your saying, just because of what she has done so far
she's not hate-able?
have you not look other options?

I'm not saying you have to hate her, but read again what you wrote.
were not actually talking here of what she did


Well my point is,
many dislike her becuase they think she's 'useless' or uninteresting, and etc.
Really though, she has done lots! Also, as others have said, "her fighting style is uninteresting,"
doesn't apply in my opinion considring she's one of the only two people to have that fighting style.
Etc. etc. I won't go into her romance for Sasuke though. I disagree with that.

sorry about the late reply
I understand what your saying, I agree too
I'm not saying anything about romance either but. have you ever though about her attitude?
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.....for petes's sake she is a TSUNDERE...not a b***h, can you tell the difference? she is cold and harsh at the beginning, but changes as the series goes, on, does a "b***h" comfort someone when they are sad? nope.

yet here you are, calling her one... no man, just no.. stare Ps, Kagome is a Tsundere too (duh) she isn't truly mean...( but I don't know much about that series other then Kagome is the tsundere in it... sweatdrop )

Sakura has never tried to sleep with anyone, but then your just saying that to be funny clearly... rolleyes


meh, all of these reasons are easy to counter, but I'm too lazy to bother to counter them all...LOL.. just reminding people that Sakura is the Tsundere kinda takes care of most of the unfair things you said anyway... neutral


why are you so harsh on Sakura anyway? neutral


PS,..... I kinda suck at debating... xd but I will try my hardest to talk with you without calling you names or something like that...I WILL keep my temper in check this time...no really...I mean it this time...*shifty eyes* ninja


lets start from the top
trundere isnt a reall thing , in life thats called a b***h

next, when you BERATE AN ORPAN, FOR BEING AN ORPHAN, THERE IS NO COUNTER THERE IS NO EXCUSE, YOU ARE A HORRIBLE PERSON

not go in to the fact that she manipulated said orphan to get her crush back not even factoring , hmm maybe naruto will feel like compete sh**

then , fricking lying to his face to go kil sauske invalidating that whole manipulation thing she had done because she was to weak to get sauske by her damn self.

for a person says my points are arguable you never argued them, its because you cant.

tsundere is a fancy word for b***h, and in real being a b***h, epically of that calibur would get your a** whipped, her character is so sh***ty that kishimote gradually wrote her out of the manga because though introspection he found out that he was writting , not a cute angry character, but rather a heartless monster. the likes only comparable to whrinry from fma



lol no I can debate this, but really, just saying Tsundere really does take care of more then half of your points...and by the way, you didn't MAKE points, you just made up a nice story, which would be fine of this was a fanfiction, but no... it's not.*example being your messed version of why Sakura tried to kill Sasuke*...that isn't what happened and any real fan knows it.and Tsundere is real..I can't believe your a anime fan and you don't know this...it's a Trope. It's been around since the 80's, and no, b***h and Tsundere are no where near the same thing. I think your confusing Tsundere with YANDERE....now THAT'S a b***h. stare I got a feeling you have never heard of either trope...being that you think Tsundere are the "bitchy" ones...lol...

well, here are some sites for ya, consider these my counters.

first a site that explains Tsundere...

Tsundere Trope

Then the one that explains Yandere....

Yandere Trope



these two are nothing alike,but shockingly, many so called anime fans seem to not understand them...

....please don't reply back till AFTER you read them..k? sweatdrop


you DO realize.... you just insulted yourselves..... because i said she is a b***h, that was point, you were the one who brought those Japanese tropes up....
so.....thanks?



do you realize that Tsundere and Yandere are NOT the same thing? LOL.. lol clearly you don't becasue you think I just insulting myslef, Sakura is a TSUNDERE dearie, not a Yandere, learn the difference. rolleyes


I never called her eityer I called her a b***h, your not good at this whole "argument " deal are you
Hey, dumbass. Why don't you cite some examples? Chapter and page? Because if you regurgiate the same "b***h, b***h, b***h." and shallow points with nothing to back it up, you'll continue to fail to impress me or convince me that you're using your brain and not just kneejerking the same comments over and over again.
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-She saved Kankuro
-She found the antidote to a very complex poison
-She killed Sasori
-She beat one of Pain's summons
-She healed countless shinobi
-She informed the whole shinobi alliance of zetsu and his powers
-She Tsunade's student

etc. etc. She is just un-hateable.

SO

your saying, just because of what she has done so far
she's not hate-able?
have you not look other options?

I'm not saying you have to hate her, but read again what you wrote.
were not actually talking here of what she did


Well my point is,
many dislike her becuase they think she's 'useless' or uninteresting, and etc.
Really though, she has done lots! Also, as others have said, "her fighting style is uninteresting,"
doesn't apply in my opinion considring she's one of the only two people to have that fighting style.
Etc. etc. I won't go into her romance for Sasuke though. I disagree with that.

sorry about the late reply
I understand what your saying, I agree too
I'm not saying anything about romance either but. have you ever though about her attitude?


I love her attitude!! It's not as annoying as people make it. It's like my sister ranting on me when I embaress her. Her attitude is serious as well as thoughtful. She's not angry all the time.
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1 obviously you havent kept up , because he has said he wrote the later sakura chapters in introsepection of the character.

next berating orphans was never forgiven, and she still does it, and lies, cheats, manipulates, and pusses out.
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I suppose I'm a bit late into the conversation. I apologize, I was too busy partying the last few days. Back on the topic.
Sweetie, grow the ******** up.
You're the one who has not kept up. What exactly have you been reading? Your own little fantasy?
A b***h is someone who is selfish. What part of Sakura is selfish? She lied to take burden off of Naruto's shoulders and to which it did. Moreover, her job as a medic is apparently useless, because saving lives is not necessary. Sakura has never cheated before, she was smart enough to answer the questions in the Chumin Exams without the help of others. Pulling s**t out of your arse will not make you seem an smarter than you really are.
By the way, hun, none of the characters in GOAS are real woman.
She is a real woman:
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It was the start of the series. It was the begnning of character developement. There was no intention behind anything, it was just a start to something better. How was that chance wasted? Tsunade took her under her wing, and she has become one of the top medical nin in Konoha and who knows where else? Not to mention, from a fragile fangirl she has gained superhuman strength from training with one of the legendary sannins. As for the confession part, canon evidence has been given that the confession was a lie, but fan speculation makes everything jumped up. She did not use his love for her own agenda. There were more intentions behind the confessions than you actually think. Her intent was to lift Naruto's burden (chasing Sasuke because she begged him to) and to save Sasuke from the shithole he put himself in. It's a twisted way of caring for someone, I guess. Deceiving one of your closest friends for a rash attempt at trying to kill your love interest/crush/whatever the hell he is to her.

so if she was trying to help him, why in the world naruto tells her he doesn't believe in liars.
oh wait are you going to tell me she was trying to help him in another way?
what way? lying? behind his back doing a squad?
even shikamaru tries to say something. or neji I don't remember
since the beginning all this issue about rescuing sasuke, it was because he made a promise with her. ooh yeah that's right he does care about sasuke too.

it was quite disappointing when sasuke meets again with naruto and when they're talking naruto says if he has to die to bring sasuke back he will
and sakura?
she just stood quiet.



Let me explain why she used the confession in the first place.

Sakura 'confessed' her 'love' for Naruto. Why? Like I stated before, it was to lift his burden of trying to catch Sasuke. There was a reason behind her actions. To lift a friend's burdens, and to save someone else from a life filled with misery. Although I'm not saying that it makes lying to him right, but damn, in this case, do you honestly think you can still hate on her because she lied? Alright, she lied to the main character of the series and did something rash and kinda stupid. But think of the thought and passion she put into it. I'm not sure about the stood quiet part, so I won't comment on it. And by not sure I mean what chapter and or episode. .-.

Again, it's your opinion, but I find it pretty damn annoying when people disregard her and make her seem like a petty b***h by saying that she 'lied' and everything she did was for nothing. Facts are still facts, character developement, whether crappy or good is still character developement, and it's still an ongoing series. Honestly, if people had better points and arguments on why they hate her then I wouldn't mind, but to say that she stood by quietly through the entire ordeal and calling her useless is a tad bit far and pretty damn dumb (not saying you specifically are calling her useless or anything). Sorry if I misinterpreted anything you said, I couldn't really understand a few parts of your post. :3
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.....for petes's sake she is a TSUNDERE...not a b***h, can you tell the difference? she is cold and harsh at the beginning, but changes as the series goes, on, does a "b***h" comfort someone when they are sad? nope.

yet here you are, calling her one... no man, just no.. stare Ps, Kagome is a Tsundere too (duh) she isn't truly mean...( but I don't know much about that series other then Kagome is the tsundere in it... sweatdrop )

Sakura has never tried to sleep with anyone, but then your just saying that to be funny clearly... rolleyes


meh, all of these reasons are easy to counter, but I'm too lazy to bother to counter them all...LOL.. just reminding people that Sakura is the Tsundere kinda takes care of most of the unfair things you said anyway... neutral


why are you so harsh on Sakura anyway? neutral


PS,..... I kinda suck at debating... xd but I will try my hardest to talk with you without calling you names or something like that...I WILL keep my temper in check this time...no really...I mean it this time...*shifty eyes* ninja


lets start from the top
trundere isnt a reall thing , in life thats called a b***h

next, when you BERATE AN ORPAN, FOR BEING AN ORPHAN, THERE IS NO COUNTER THERE IS NO EXCUSE, YOU ARE A HORRIBLE PERSON

not go in to the fact that she manipulated said orphan to get her crush back not even factoring , hmm maybe naruto will feel like compete sh**

then , fricking lying to his face to go kil sauske invalidating that whole manipulation thing she had done because she was to weak to get sauske by her damn self.

for a person says my points are arguable you never argued them, its because you cant.

tsundere is a fancy word for b***h, and in real being a b***h, epically of that calibur would get your a** whipped, her character is so sh***ty that kishimote gradually wrote her out of the manga because though introspection he found out that he was writting , not a cute angry character, but rather a heartless monster. the likes only comparable to whrinry from fma



lol no I can debate this, but really, just saying Tsundere really does take care of more then half of your points...and by the way, you didn't MAKE points, you just made up a nice story, which would be fine of this was a fanfiction, but no... it's not.*example being your messed version of why Sakura tried to kill Sasuke*...that isn't what happened and any real fan knows it.and Tsundere is real..I can't believe your a anime fan and you don't know this...it's a Trope. It's been around since the 80's, and no, b***h and Tsundere are no where near the same thing. I think your confusing Tsundere with YANDERE....now THAT'S a b***h. stare I got a feeling you have never heard of either trope...being that you think Tsundere are the "bitchy" ones...lol...

well, here are some sites for ya, consider these my counters.

first a site that explains Tsundere...

Tsundere Trope

Then the one that explains Yandere....

Yandere Trope



these two are nothing alike,but shockingly, many so called anime fans seem to not understand them...

....please don't reply back till AFTER you read them..k? sweatdrop


you DO realize.... you just insulted yourselves..... because i said she is a b***h, that was point, you were the one who brought those Japanese tropes up....
so.....thanks?



do you realize that Tsundere and Yandere are NOT the same thing? LOL.. lol clearly you don't becasue you think I just insulting myslef, Sakura is a TSUNDERE dearie, not a Yandere, learn the difference. rolleyes


I never called her eityer I called her a b***h, your not good at this whole "argument " deal are you



....lol, you first claim I admited to calling her a b***h, if you recall I said the only bitches are Yandere's, then your called a premature victory that was short lived by claiming I admited it...no i'm not the one losing the argument here. lol
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lol no I can debate this, but really, just saying Tsundere really does take care of more then half of your points...and by the way, you didn't MAKE points, you just made up a nice story, which would be fine of this was a fanfiction, but no... it's not.*example being your messed version of why Sakura tried to kill Sasuke*...that isn't what happened and any real fan knows it.and Tsundere is real..I can't believe your a anime fan and you don't know this...it's a Trope. It's been around since the 80's, and no, b***h and Tsundere are no where near the same thing. I think your confusing Tsundere with YANDERE....now THAT'S a b***h. stare I got a feeling you have never heard of either trope...being that you think Tsundere are the "bitchy" ones...lol...

well, here are some sites for ya, consider these my counters.

first a site that explains Tsundere...

Tsundere Trope

Then the one that explains Yandere....

Yandere Trope



these two are nothing alike,but shockingly, many so called anime fans seem to not understand them...

....please don't reply back till AFTER you read them..k? sweatdrop


you DO realize.... you just insulted yourselves..... because i said she is a b***h, that was point, you were the one who brought those Japanese tropes up....
so.....thanks?



do you realize that Tsundere and Yandere are NOT the same thing? LOL.. lol clearly you don't becasue you think I just insulting myslef, Sakura is a TSUNDERE dearie, not a Yandere, learn the difference. rolleyes


I never called her eityer I called her a b***h, your not good at this whole "argument " deal are you



....lol, you first claim I admited to calling her a b***h, if you recall I said the only bitches are Yandere's, then your called a premature victory that was short lived by claiming I admited it...no i'm not the one losing the argument here. lol

...your putting words in my mouth or cant read
im out
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lol no I can debate this, but really, just saying Tsundere really does take care of more then half of your points...and by the way, you didn't MAKE points, you just made up a nice story, which would be fine of this was a fanfiction, but no... it's not.*example being your messed version of why Sakura tried to kill Sasuke*...that isn't what happened and any real fan knows it.and Tsundere is real..I can't believe your a anime fan and you don't know this...it's a Trope. It's been around since the 80's, and no, b***h and Tsundere are no where near the same thing. I think your confusing Tsundere with YANDERE....now THAT'S a b***h. stare I got a feeling you have never heard of either trope...being that you think Tsundere are the "bitchy" ones...lol...

well, here are some sites for ya, consider these my counters.

first a site that explains Tsundere...

Tsundere Trope

Then the one that explains Yandere....

Yandere Trope



these two are nothing alike,but shockingly, many so called anime fans seem to not understand them...

....please don't reply back till AFTER you read them..k? sweatdrop


you DO realize.... you just insulted yourselves..... because i said she is a b***h, that was point, you were the one who brought those Japanese tropes up....
so.....thanks?



do you realize that Tsundere and Yandere are NOT the same thing? LOL.. lol clearly you don't becasue you think I just insulting myslef, Sakura is a TSUNDERE dearie, not a Yandere, learn the difference. rolleyes


I never called her eityer I called her a b***h, your not good at this whole "argument " deal are you



....lol, you first claim I admited to calling her a b***h, if you recall I said the only bitches are Yandere's, then your called a premature victory that was short lived by claiming I admited it...no i'm not the one losing the argument here. lol

...your putting words in my mouth or cant read
im out
peace




.....erm...ok then... peace.. sweatdrop
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I don't hate her, but she is the most annoying character in the series. I don't hate her though.

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