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Are your views fomented by a need for dissent? Mine are. Go to post 30 General Discussion Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:56 pm
Blind Guardian the 2nd
Empress Theodora
You must be under 30, but over 12. As people age they tend to revert back to their parents religion/method of child rearing/political views/etc after a period of rebellion.

You're actually typical.


Can I get a source on that, please?


The Gender Knot, Michael Messner.

It's print, sorry duder. I'm sure you can find something on the internet but my parents were very active and I'm not yet 30.
Are your views fomented by a need for dissent? Mine are. Go to post 30 General Discussion Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:37 pm
You must be under 30, but over 12. As people age they tend to revert back to their parents religion/method of child rearing/political views/etc after a period of rebellion.

You're actually typical.
Death Penalty Go to post 85 Extended Discussion Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:47 am
Gypsy Will
xPurpleMilkx

Death Penalty:
should it be allowed?
is the purpose of the death penalty retribution for crimes or a deterrence from future crimes?
death penalty vs. life in prison, your thoughts?

Edit:
Facts:
-> 38 states use lethal injection
-> 10 states use the electric chair
-> 4 states use the gas chamber
-> 3 states use hanging
-> 3 states use a firing squad.
I used to think it was wrong. But who cares? People should die anyway. Allow the DP until nuclear war?....

Or just end the system altogether?


My hypothesis that all posters who are dressed completely in black are terrible draws yet more evidence.
I am a converted atheist. Go to post 35 Chatterbox Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:21 am
marshmallowcreampie
Empress Theodora
Oh my god no one cares.


How do you know that? Have you personally spoken to every single person to ask them whether or not they care?


Yes. You would not believe how little any of them care.
How would you... view Russia In a World War 3 Parody?... Go to post 26 Extended Discussion Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:14 am
First, all praise be to Mother Russia.

Second, China would never fight the US because a) it doesn't need to and b) who else is gonna buy all their crap?
I modified my altair cosplay what do u think? Go to post 7 Chatterbox Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:53 am
4/20 cosplay mythohistoric figures everyday
I am a converted atheist. Go to post 35 Chatterbox Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:51 am
Oh my god no one cares.
A debate between atheism and other religions Go to post 66 Chatterbox Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:51 am
I got bored one day
Empress Theodora
I got bored one day
Empress Theodora
Closet_Pervy


Eureka! I finally get it. eek Empress, are you saying that those who profess atheism --- possibly most esepcially the so-called "new atheism" ---- are hyper-realistic and insist they are ultra-rational when in fact they are in denial of their irrationality? Or that in fact they are aware they are irrational much of the time but overtly lie about this for the purpose of posturing themselves "superior" to believers?


I don't know that I'd put it that way, but yeah, using "its not rational!" as a deciding factor in whether not you do things isn't valid because nobody is rational, and there are plenty of beliefs that people stick to regardless of their rationality even if they're not religious. In this very thread, whatshisface said "That'd require lying, and a lot of people aren't entirely comfortable with that." Because they prefer their belief over being strictly rational, which is totally valid. Its not even a religious vs non-religious thing.

Also I just realized I used like 7 double negatives in that quote. Whatever, English is irrational anyway.


Non sequitur. :[


I don't think we're talking about the same thing.
I know we aren't.
Quote:
I'm saying that pure rationality is impossible, and because of that, not really relevant to a religious vs nonreligious discussion, because people will be irrational regardless.
Which has nothing to do with whether or not something is or is not rational. The fact that I might like this over that and it makes no sense does not mean that murder becomes rational. The statements themselves are really overdrawn and absolutely idiotic for everything it's worth.

It's truly not only non sequitur but it makes no ******** sense.

Quote:
I don't really know what you're saying, could you please elaborate?
Since when does repetition do anything on Gaia?


It really doesn't matter if believing in god is rational or not.
A debate between atheism and other religions Go to post 66 Chatterbox Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:37 am
I got bored one day
Empress Theodora
Closet_Pervy
Empress Theodora
Basically what I'm saying is that no one, religious or not, really cares whether or not everything they do is rational or not.

Except lying atheists.


Eureka! I finally get it. eek Empress, are you saying that those who profess atheism --- possibly most esepcially the so-called "new atheism" ---- are hyper-realistic and insist they are ultra-rational when in fact they are in denial of their irrationality? Or that in fact they are aware they are irrational much of the time but overtly lie about this for the purpose of posturing themselves "superior" to believers?


I don't know that I'd put it that way, but yeah, using "its not rational!" as a deciding factor in whether not you do things isn't valid because nobody is rational, and there are plenty of beliefs that people stick to regardless of their rationality even if they're not religious. In this very thread, whatshisface said "That'd require lying, and a lot of people aren't entirely comfortable with that." Because they prefer their belief over being strictly rational, which is totally valid. Its not even a religious vs non-religious thing.

Also I just realized I used like 7 double negatives in that quote. Whatever, English is irrational anyway.


Non sequitur. :[


I don't think we're talking about the same thing. I'm saying that pure rationality is impossible, and because of that, not really relevant to a religious vs nonreligious discussion, because people will be irrational regardless. I don't really know what you're saying, could you please elaborate?
A debate between atheism and other religions Go to post 66 Chatterbox Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:19 am
Closet_Pervy
Empress Theodora
Basically what I'm saying is that no one, religious or not, really cares whether or not everything they do is rational or not.

Except lying atheists.


Eureka! I finally get it. eek Empress, are you saying that those who profess atheism --- possibly most esepcially the so-called "new atheism" ---- are hyper-realistic and insist they are ultra-rational when in fact they are in denial of their irrationality? Or that in fact they are aware they are irrational much of the time but overtly lie about this for the purpose of posturing themselves "superior" to believers?


I don't know that I'd put it that way, but yeah, using "its not rational!" as a deciding factor in whether not you do things isn't valid because nobody is rational, and there are plenty of beliefs that people stick to regardless of their rationality even if they're not religious. In this very thread, whatshisface said "That'd require lying, and a lot of people aren't entirely comfortable with that." Because they prefer their belief over being strictly rational, which is totally valid. Its not even a religious vs non-religious thing.

Also I just realized I used like 7 double negatives in that quote. Whatever, English is irrational anyway.
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