-------------Goth Rock--------------

Faith or Pornography?

Faith.	18.7%	[ 82 ]
Pornography.	27.6%	[ 121 ]
It depends on my mood.	22.3%	[ 98 ]
I'm not sure what you are referring to?	31.4%	[ 138 ]
Total Votes:			[ 439 ]

[GilAskan]

********* Vial

GilAskan

Akai Kenshi

Super-Lawyer-Man-Man

Yeah, I've sort of noticed Spiritual Cramp as different from most other Goth-Rock/Deathrock songs because of the high amounts of rhythm guitar. It's a bit weird but I think I like it more than a lot of other Christian Death songs because of it, even if it still isn't my favorite.

Oh, I love it, but I like a lot of hard rock too.

Unrelated: Is Gaiman on record saying that Robert Smith, Bowie, and Peter Murphy were inspirations for Dream's human form? The Wikipedia article seems to think that they were.

Having read the entire series myself, I'm pretty damn positive that Morpheus' is based on Gaiman himself. In fact, in volume two of the Sandman, Gaiman uses a doctored photograph of himself to represent Morpheus in Rose's dream sequence.

But you can still also tell the influnces that other people have on the character, primarily people in Goth-Rock history.

True, very true. Morpheus' face looks very much modelled after Bowie or Murphy, and his hair much like that of the classic 80's goth tease.

Same can be said of Death, who (visually) has clear influence from Siouxsie Sioux, Nico, and Dinah Cancer.

[GilAskan]

_PsychoPathic-Tend3ncies_

NO offense, really, but you are getting kinda off-topic. I just don't want the thread to be chatterboxed. :F

Sorry.

But erm... what is Sandman? rofl

"Sandman" was an influential comic series running nearly a decade through the 90's. The comic followed Morpheus (the personfication of dreams) as he attempted to rebuild his kingdom after being captured for seventy years by occultists in the 1920's. The comic also commonly followed Dream's disfunctional family (Himself, Destiny, Death, Desire, Despair, Destruction, and Delirium), as well as many human (some even real people) touched by Dream's good will.

The comic was extremely well reviewed for its constantly shifting (and absolutely gorgeus) art style, brilliant writing, philosophical insight, and cultural examination. It was one of the major "art comics" of the 90's which established the medium as a legitimate form of storytelling.

The comic is of common discussion by goths for multiple reasons. Largely, the comic was a large supporter and defender of the goth community. It featured multiple goth characters, various forms of goth fashion, and multiple direct and indirect references to goth bands. The comic also, quite notably, depicted goths in many different lights, rather than as a single archetype.



I can empathize with your fears of being chatterboxed, but the discussion did come out of a goth-rock tangent.

The character of Morpheus (dream) is visually based on Gaiman (the author), Peter Murphy (Bauhaus), David Bowie, and Robert Smith (the Cure). Other characters based on goth-rock icons include (but are not limited to) Death (primarily based on Siouxsie Sioux) and the Corinthian (allegedly based on Andrew Eldritch of the Sisters of Mercy).

[coveredinbees]

sandman sounds fantastic! i would've loved to read it.

[Doktor Avalanche]

... does that make Andy a gay serial killer? gonk

[Ether-Eating Eskimo]

I'm sorry then, Gil. sweatdrop

And, yeah, I really would like to buy it too. Lately I've really been liking comics. I just hate superheros, so it can be difficult finding good ones for me. :F

I think I might want to make comics some day.

Or animations with goth rock. XD

I love goth. <3

Whenever I listen to it, I get a chill down my back. =] And I shake uncontrollably. <[^o^<]

[Shugzilla]

I wouldnt put Joy Division in there... but i dont exactly know much about the genre i just like most of the bands =D

but Old goth rock is so differant to the new "goth" rock... i wanna hear more of the old stuff

I know theres a big list at the front... but would someone be kind enough to gimme like a few best of the best bands x)

thankyous to anyone who does smile

[Ether-Eating Eskimo]

Well, erm...

Joy Division basically = early stuff

But I really don't want to get to far into this. Last time, a Joy Division fight is part of why we got chatterboxed...

[Soulbutter]

Shugzilla

I wouldnt put Joy Division in there... but i dont exactly know much about the genre i just like most of the bands =D

but Old goth rock is so differant to the new "goth" rock... i wanna hear more of the old stuff

I know theres a big list at the front... but would someone be kind enough to gimme like a few best of the best bands x)

thankyous to anyone who does smile

Really? No Joy Division? To me they basically are one of the founding bands of not only Goth, but many, many other genres.

[Soulbutter]

maggie iratus

Sinister Kung Fu

A Kiss Goodbye

I've never heard Gothabilly, I don't htink. Any bands I should check out?

the Young Werewolves
Ghoultown
Sex With Lurch
The Hammerdowns

Hmm. I'm gonna check some of those out, too. ninja

Ooo Maggie, you should try Red Temple Spirits heart

[Bloody Knight12]

I like Him....

[Sinister Kung Fu]

Bloody Knight12

I like Him....

However, HIM is not the slightest bit goth.
Try these bands, if you want some goth from Finland
Musta Paraati - http://www.myspace.com/mustaparaati
Suraika - http://www.myspace.com/suruaika

[Akai Kenshi]

Shugzilla

I wouldnt put Joy Division in there... but i dont exactly know much about the genre i just like most of the bands =D

but Old goth rock is so differant to the new "goth" rock... i wanna hear more of the old stuff

I know theres a big list at the front... but would someone be kind enough to gimme like a few best of the best bands x)

thankyous to anyone who does smile

You'd best start out with Bauhaus, methinks.

[Dead Milkmen]

Akai Kenshi

Shugzilla

I wouldnt put Joy Division in there... but i dont exactly know much about the genre i just like most of the bands =D

but Old goth rock is so differant to the new "goth" rock... i wanna hear more of the old stuff

I know theres a big list at the front... but would someone be kind enough to gimme like a few best of the best bands x)

thankyous to anyone who does smile

You'd best start out with Bauhaus, methinks.

Siouxsie & the Banshees or The Damned, too.

[Lucretia My Reflection]

_PsychoPathic-Tend3ncies_

I'm sorry then, Gil. sweatdrop

And, yeah, I really would like to buy it too. Lately I've really been liking comics. I just hate superheros, so it can be difficult finding good ones for me. :F

I think I might want to make comics some day.

Or animations with goth rock. XD

I love goth. <3

Whenever I listen to it, I get a chill down my back. =] And I shake uncontrollably. <[^o^<]

Well Sandman, in my opinion is by far the best comic around. It takes the essence of the Gothic subculture and smashes it into comics which makes it absolutely brilliant. Sandman is definitely something that most Goth lovers should read. :squee:

[Lucretia My Reflection]

Teromdoas

Akai Kenshi

Shugzilla

I wouldnt put Joy Division in there... but i dont exactly know much about the genre i just like most of the bands =D

but Old goth rock is so differant to the new "goth" rock... i wanna hear more of the old stuff

I know theres a big list at the front... but would someone be kind enough to gimme like a few best of the best bands x)

thankyous to anyone who does smile

You'd best start out with Bauhaus, methinks.

Siouxsie & the Banshees or The Damned, too.

And try out some good ol' Christian Death and Sisters of Mercy, too.