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[TeaDidikai]

AisuruTsuki

i rejoined the guild and the convo is like 2 years old. o_O you really want me to try and find that?

On- don't bother if you're not interested. I just was curious.

[iRTsuki]

TeaDidikai

AisuruTsuki

i rejoined the guild and the convo is like 2 years old. o_O you really want me to try and find that?

On- don't bother if you're not interested. I just was curious.

trust me its not worth bringing back up. But from what i remember it was about a thread about wicca and good books to read and such. thats all i remember >_<

[tempestswordsman]

Do wiccans believe that the Lord and Lady are equal? Would it be uncommon for one to either believe the Lady is greater than the lord or that women are greater than men?

[TeaDidikai]

tempestswordsman

Do wiccans believe that the Lord and Lady are equal? Would it be uncommon for one to either believe the Lady is greater than the lord or that women are greater than men?

If by equal you are implying a balance, likely not- as we have heard lineaged Wiccans argue for polarity over balance.

To be honest- while the Lady is the mother of the Wica as she is the Mother of the Lord (according to Scorplett), the Decent of the Goddess shows the Lord also held a position of power.

[Henry Dorsett Case]

TeaDidikai

To be honest- while the Lady is the mother of the Wica as she is the Mother of the Lord (according to Scorplett), the Decent of the Goddess shows the Lord also held a position of power.

I'm fairly certain I read this either in an excerpt of Janet Farrar's latest book or on her website, so of course this isn't exactly what I'd call an authoritative source, but I'd come to understand that it was a matter of the Lord essentially laying his power at the Lady's feet for her to use, not in subservience but in a context of mutual benefit.

As I said, this may be wrong, it may be heterodox, and I invite those who would know better than I to correct or refine this as need be. Just throwing it out there as at least a statement on the "balance" of powers from someone who at least at one point was Wiccan.

[Kali_Katashi]

OH nicely writen i was very happy with this thread it was alot of what i already know but still intersting to refresh the mind, thanks again keep it up.

[scorplett]

tempestswordsman

Do wiccans believe that the Lord and Lady are equal? Would it be uncommon for one to either believe the Lady is greater than the lord or that women are greater than men?

The only answer I can give is one that won't make much sense outside of an internal Wiccan structure. That is to say that both the Goddess (Lady) and High Priestess as her representative, are first among equals.
I would suggest that the easiest way to describe it in non oathbound terms is that while for all intensive purposes they are equal in importance but for differing reasons and on occasions where the buck has to stop somewhere, it is with the Lady or her representative the HPS.
As far as worship goes, there are occasions when each will be more prominent than the other, or more central. This see-saw can also play out in the individual Priest or Priestesses lives and how the God and Goddess work through them. But it is not an easy relationship to explain as each is essential to the other and vice versa. Without one there is not the other or at very best, the one is no longer the same!

[Loona Wynd]

A question I asked in the "Is wicca a sex religion" topic never got answered, so I'll ask it again here. Can the fertility in Wicca refer to the ability to be creative and try/.experience new things as well as the source of life? Or is it just about connecting to the Lord and Lady who are the source of life?

[scorplett]

loona wynd

A question I asked in the "Is wicca a sex religion" topic never got answered, so I'll ask it again here. Can the fertility in Wicca refer to the ability to be creative and try/.experience new things as well as the source of life? Or is it just about connecting to the Lord and Lady who are the source of life?

I think Shaddow briefly answered that question. But I'll answer it here as you have phrased it very differently here.

This is a very astute question, but one that doesn't have a clear cut answer.
These things are part of the revelations that undergoing the mysteries bring about and the common gnosis therefrom.
However, it is very much centred on experience of communication and interaction with the Lord and Lady and by being with them, in them and of them that such gnosis comes about.
I would say it might be akin to seeing with their eyes, or walking in their shoes. In some ways it could be put similarly to the nature/fertility argument (fish are to sea as fertility is to nature) this concept perceived through the shared or joined experience of the nature of fertility as seen and witnessed through the Lord and Lady.
I guess what I am saying is that from the perspective of the individual it can. But that is not the whole of it and it is brought by way of the Lord and Lady and thereby essentially remaining part of them.

[TeaDidikai]

scorplett

I would say it might be akin to seeing with their eyes, or walking in their shoes.

Perhaps in an even more literal fashion- due to the nature of invocation over evocation?

[scorplett]

TeaDidikai

scorplett

I would say it might be akin to seeing with their eyes, or walking in their shoes.

Perhaps in an even more literal fashion- due to the nature of invocation over evocation?

You betchya! Sometimes painfully so!!!
Not meaning to dumb it down by the original analogy, but a lot of people don't truly understand the potent difference of true invocation as opposed to evocation!
For example, it is not unheard of for percieved physical changes to occur, physiological such as body shape and very often voice changes. The concious mind of the vessel can often be buried very deep to the point of little or no recollection of the events.
Perhaps the extent of invocatory experiences in Wicca is something for wider discussion? But then these sorts of experiences are not in any way unique to Wicca, merely the method and the Deity encountered.
So maybe, their feet in your shoes would be more appropriate?

[TeaDidikai]

scorplett

Not meaning to dumb it down by the original analogy, but a lot of people don't truly understand the potent difference of true invocation as opposed to evocation!

I completely agree. I also find it slightly sad when invocation becomes fodder for Mr. Darks as well. Not suggesting such is common within Wicca, I would find it hard to imagine someone prone to such behavior making the cut as a proper person... but who knows. ~shrugs~

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For example, it is not unheard of for percieved physical changes to occur, physiological such as body shape and very often voice changes. The concious mind of the vessel can often be buried very deep to the point of little or no recollection of the events.

I've heard of this and may have even experienced it once as a bystander. Interesting stuff, no?

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Perhaps the extent of invocatory experiences in Wicca is something for wider discussion? But then these sorts of experiences are not in any way unique to Wicca, merely the method and the Deity encountered.

I think invocation is something this thread has indeed neglected.

It lends another context to why a Proper Person is so important and why the Wiccan Mysteries cannot be learned from a book alone.

As a mortal, I don't like sharing my tooth brush with anyone but my hubby (and even then, that's unusual).

Can one fathom what it takes for a god to be comfortable within someone's body?

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So maybe, their feet in your shoes would be more appropriate?

I was thinking just that... wink

[Loona Wynd]

scorplett

loona wynd

A question I asked in the "Is wicca a sex religion" topic never got answered, so I'll ask it again here. Can the fertility in Wicca refer to the ability to be creative and try/.experience new things as well as the source of life? Or is it just about connecting to the Lord and Lady who are the source of life?

I think Shaddow briefly answered that question. But I'll answer it here as you have phrased it very differently here.

This is a very astute question, but one that doesn't have a clear cut answer.
These things are part of the revelations that undergoing the mysteries bring about and the common gnosis therefrom.
However, it is very much centred on experience of communication and interaction with the Lord and Lady and by being with them, in them and of them that such gnosis comes about.
I would say it might be akin to seeing with their eyes, or walking in their shoes. In some ways it could be put similarly to the nature/fertility argument (fish are to sea as fertility is to nature) this concept perceived through the shared or joined experience of the nature of fertility as seen and witnessed through the Lord and Lady.
I guess what I am saying is that from the perspective of the individual it can. But that is not the whole of it and it is brought by way of the Lord and Lady and thereby essentially remaining part of them.

Wow. You've given me something to think about and meditate on. The more I research, the more I know I'm not ready for Wicca.

[Kalyani Srijoi]

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Moonwillow Tigerlilly

N offense, but I think Wicca is ridiculous. I'm pagan, so don't think its discrimination.
It's less than one hundred years old, and made up by a man who just took different parts of many religions, including Christianity, until it suited him. Some of the philosophies are good, but I personally do not like it as a whole. Also a bunch of people are jumping on the Wicca Wagon to be a part of the group, and its not really a religion to them, but more of a token of fitting in, or trying to be different, whichever way you look at it.

*dies at your lack of knowladge* wicca was BEFORE christ, thats why its PAGEN.

england was a wiccan-based country, and when christianity came over here, they killed all of the wiccans (not really, but alot were killed), but the dates of the christian holidays were changed because so many people weren't buying it. like halloween was acctually the wiccan newyear, infact, everything was moved around the year.

so learn before you open your mouth.

oh, and it IS discrimination, because pagen isnt a religion, its word to discribe pre-christian or pre-jewish religions (notice the plural) you are not a wiccan, you follow A (notice the singular) pagen religion, there are thousands of them.