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my friends tell me about their religions and cultures, about their places or worship, their holidays. do i get offended because i don't believe in them? no. it widens my knowledge about the world. people are different from all over the world. and there's nothing wrong with that. it's when you start letting it control your life that it becomes a problem. when you're telling people they're gonna go to hell if they don't agree with you, or when you're telling people they're stupid cuz they read the bible. it makes you all look bad.



If you remain silent while disagreeing with their views, then i would say you're worse than a person who shouts their disagreement with offensiveness and intolerance, as that person is being more honest in their volume than you in your silence.

If there is offense to be gleaned, then it should be gleaned from reasonable sources. Your religion involves killing infants, ergo i have a right to be offended and speak out against such beliefs. Speaking out against such beliefs makes me neither an a*****e or intolerant, contrary to how you are portraying the subject.

When you tell people they're going to go to hell if they don't believe as you do, that is a product of your religion and your contract with said religion. Such is the case with all Christians, who like it or not have chosen to adopt the notion of Hell and eternal suffering for nonbelievers.

If you believe in the bible (not just read it, everyone has read the bible at some point in time) then i can confidently say that you are at least stupid to some degree. This does not make me look bad, as belief in the Bible requires the brain to be dysfunctional in several cognitive sectors, rendering human intelligence within the person less than average.

That being said, i'd like you to provide an example of a sweeping generalization such as the one you provided within this forum from the part of an Atheist. Then i want you to compare that sweeping generalization with the ones made categorically and mandatory by various religions.

When you've gotten done comparing the generalizations made by Atheists with those made by various Religions, you can proceed to analyze the claims made by each and see what the value is in discussing these things or opposing them.

By this point, your topic will seem dated and irrelevant, i'm sure.

At the end of the day, if the bar for insult is "Sweeping generalizations" as you've already pointed out, i'm afraid religions have that as part of their creed in most if not all cases, whereas human beings and Atheists tend to do it as part of basic human mistakes. Atheists, for example, don't think in general that all Christians deserve an eternity in hell, and that the thought of such a thing is a human desire for revenge and not worth worshipping.

i don't have time for you. goodbye. i will go off and continue to not hate people for stupid things


You have defined hate as "Making sweeping generalizations of people." Please refer to my response to you on this subject if you ever have any questions on why your argument doesn't work in practice.

The rest of us will be solving problems through careful application of conflict and research, while not pretending that it's offensive.

listen. i'd like to help you, but my bf is puking mcchickens and coke all over the trailer, so imma have to wrap this up some other time.
suddenly mcdonalds isn't healthy lol. I thought you said it was? Isnt that a contradiction?

just because my bf is puking, doesn't mean it's because he ate somethign unhealthy. he done up and caught some virus from that dirty man who lives near us. he always be coming round over tryna get my sex Jean-Michel to go out getting drunk with him. that's why he's puking all over the floor.
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my friends tell me about their religions and cultures, about their places or worship, their holidays. do i get offended because i don't believe in them? no. it widens my knowledge about the world. people are different from all over the world. and there's nothing wrong with that. it's when you start letting it control your life that it becomes a problem. when you're telling people they're gonna go to hell if they don't agree with you, or when you're telling people they're stupid cuz they read the bible. it makes you all look bad.



If you remain silent while disagreeing with their views, then i would say you're worse than a person who shouts their disagreement with offensiveness and intolerance, as that person is being more honest in their volume than you in your silence.

If there is offense to be gleaned, then it should be gleaned from reasonable sources. Your religion involves killing infants, ergo i have a right to be offended and speak out against such beliefs. Speaking out against such beliefs makes me neither an a*****e or intolerant, contrary to how you are portraying the subject.

When you tell people they're going to go to hell if they don't believe as you do, that is a product of your religion and your contract with said religion. Such is the case with all Christians, who like it or not have chosen to adopt the notion of Hell and eternal suffering for nonbelievers.

If you believe in the bible (not just read it, everyone has read the bible at some point in time) then i can confidently say that you are at least stupid to some degree. This does not make me look bad, as belief in the Bible requires the brain to be dysfunctional in several cognitive sectors, rendering human intelligence within the person less than average.

That being said, i'd like you to provide an example of a sweeping generalization such as the one you provided within this forum from the part of an Atheist. Then i want you to compare that sweeping generalization with the ones made categorically and mandatory by various religions.

When you've gotten done comparing the generalizations made by Atheists with those made by various Religions, you can proceed to analyze the claims made by each and see what the value is in discussing these things or opposing them.

By this point, your topic will seem dated and irrelevant, i'm sure.

At the end of the day, if the bar for insult is "Sweeping generalizations" as you've already pointed out, i'm afraid religions have that as part of their creed in most if not all cases, whereas human beings and Atheists tend to do it as part of basic human mistakes. Atheists, for example, don't think in general that all Christians deserve an eternity in hell, and that the thought of such a thing is a human desire for revenge and not worth worshipping.

i don't have time for you. goodbye. i will go off and continue to not hate people for stupid things


You have defined hate as "Making sweeping generalizations of people." Please refer to my response to you on this subject if you ever have any questions on why your argument doesn't work in practice.

The rest of us will be solving problems through careful application of conflict and research, while not pretending that it's offensive.

listen. i'd like to help you, but my bf is puking mcchickens and coke all over the trailer, so imma have to wrap this up some other time.


That post was intended for you to read whenever you have time. Don't let our "Stupid", "Hateful", "Harmful" argument get in the way of your responsibilities, lest you elevate the importance of forum comments to those of Facebook, of which people are apparently hired and fired as a basis from.
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my friends tell me about their religions and cultures, about their places or worship, their holidays. do i get offended because i don't believe in them? no. it widens my knowledge about the world. people are different from all over the world. and there's nothing wrong with that. it's when you start letting it control your life that it becomes a problem. when you're telling people they're gonna go to hell if they don't agree with you, or when you're telling people they're stupid cuz they read the bible. it makes you all look bad.



If you remain silent while disagreeing with their views, then i would say you're worse than a person who shouts their disagreement with offensiveness and intolerance, as that person is being more honest in their volume than you in your silence.

If there is offense to be gleaned, then it should be gleaned from reasonable sources. Your religion involves killing infants, ergo i have a right to be offended and speak out against such beliefs. Speaking out against such beliefs makes me neither an a*****e or intolerant, contrary to how you are portraying the subject.

When you tell people they're going to go to hell if they don't believe as you do, that is a product of your religion and your contract with said religion. Such is the case with all Christians, who like it or not have chosen to adopt the notion of Hell and eternal suffering for nonbelievers.

If you believe in the bible (not just read it, everyone has read the bible at some point in time) then i can confidently say that you are at least stupid to some degree. This does not make me look bad, as belief in the Bible requires the brain to be dysfunctional in several cognitive sectors, rendering human intelligence within the person less than average.

That being said, i'd like you to provide an example of a sweeping generalization such as the one you provided within this forum from the part of an Atheist. Then i want you to compare that sweeping generalization with the ones made categorically and mandatory by various religions.

When you've gotten done comparing the generalizations made by Atheists with those made by various Religions, you can proceed to analyze the claims made by each and see what the value is in discussing these things or opposing them.

By this point, your topic will seem dated and irrelevant, i'm sure.

At the end of the day, if the bar for insult is "Sweeping generalizations" as you've already pointed out, i'm afraid religions have that as part of their creed in most if not all cases, whereas human beings and Atheists tend to do it as part of basic human mistakes. Atheists, for example, don't think in general that all Christians deserve an eternity in hell, and that the thought of such a thing is a human desire for revenge and not worth worshipping.

i don't have time for you. goodbye. i will go off and continue to not hate people for stupid things


You have defined hate as "Making sweeping generalizations of people." Please refer to my response to you on this subject if you ever have any questions on why your argument doesn't work in practice.

The rest of us will be solving problems through careful application of conflict and research, while not pretending that it's offensive.

listen. i'd like to help you, but my bf is puking mcchickens and coke all over the trailer, so imma have to wrap this up some other time.


That post was intended for you to read whenever you have time. Don't let our "Stupid", "Hateful", "Harmful" argument get in the way of your responsibilities, lest you elevate the importance of forum comments to those of Facebook, of which people are apparently hired and fired as a basis from.
okay. now you're speaking some weird a** english that i can't understand. onc emy bf stops puking i'll get him to look over this. he's the langauge brain of the family. he is fluent in english and french, so he will be able to figure this out.
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i don't have time for you. goodbye. i will go off and continue to not hate people for stupid things


You have defined hate as "Making sweeping generalizations of people." Please refer to my response to you on this subject if you ever have any questions on why your argument doesn't work in practice.

The rest of us will be solving problems through careful application of conflict and research, while not pretending that it's offensive.

listen. i'd like to help you, but my bf is puking mcchickens and coke all over the trailer, so imma have to wrap this up some other time.


That post was intended for you to read whenever you have time. Don't let our "Stupid", "Hateful", "Harmful" argument get in the way of your responsibilities, lest you elevate the importance of forum comments to those of Facebook, of which people are apparently hired and fired as a basis from.
okay. now you're speaking some weird a** english that i can't understand. onc emy bf stops puking i'll get him to look over this. he's the langauge brain of the family. he is fluent in english and french, so he will be able to figure this out.


I refuse to believe you're this ignorant.

You could always prove me wrong though.
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i don't have time for you. goodbye. i will go off and continue to not hate people for stupid things


You have defined hate as "Making sweeping generalizations of people." Please refer to my response to you on this subject if you ever have any questions on why your argument doesn't work in practice.

The rest of us will be solving problems through careful application of conflict and research, while not pretending that it's offensive.

listen. i'd like to help you, but my bf is puking mcchickens and coke all over the trailer, so imma have to wrap this up some other time.


That post was intended for you to read whenever you have time. Don't let our "Stupid", "Hateful", "Harmful" argument get in the way of your responsibilities, lest you elevate the importance of forum comments to those of Facebook, of which people are apparently hired and fired as a basis from.
okay. now you're speaking some weird a** english that i can't understand. onc emy bf stops puking i'll get him to look over this. he's the langauge brain of the family. he is fluent in english and french, so he will be able to figure this out.


I refuse to believe you're this ignorant.

You could always prove me wrong though.

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my friends tell me about their religions and cultures, about their places or worship, their holidays. do i get offended because i don't believe in them? no. it widens my knowledge about the world. people are different from all over the world. and there's nothing wrong with that. it's when you start letting it control your life that it becomes a problem. when you're telling people they're gonna go to hell if they don't agree with you, or when you're telling people they're stupid cuz they read the bible. it makes you all look bad.



If you remain silent while disagreeing with their views, then i would say you're worse than a person who shouts their disagreement with offensiveness and intolerance, as that person is being more honest in their volume than you in your silence.

If there is offense to be gleaned, then it should be gleaned from reasonable sources. Your religion involves killing infants, ergo i have a right to be offended and speak out against such beliefs. Speaking out against such beliefs makes me neither an a*****e or intolerant, contrary to how you are portraying the subject.

When you tell people they're going to go to hell if they don't believe as you do, that is a product of your religion and your contract with said religion. Such is the case with all Christians, who like it or not have chosen to adopt the notion of Hell and eternal suffering for nonbelievers.

If you believe in the bible (not just read it, everyone has read the bible at some point in time) then i can confidently say that you are at least stupid to some degree. This does not make me look bad, as belief in the Bible requires the brain to be dysfunctional in several cognitive sectors, rendering human intelligence within the person less than average.

That being said, i'd like you to provide an example of a sweeping generalization such as the one you provided within this forum from the part of an Atheist. Then i want you to compare that sweeping generalization with the ones made categorically and mandatory by various religions.

When you've gotten done comparing the generalizations made by Atheists with those made by various Religions, you can proceed to analyze the claims made by each and see what the value is in discussing these things or opposing them.

By this point, your topic will seem dated and irrelevant, i'm sure.

At the end of the day, if the bar for insult is "Sweeping generalizations" as you've already pointed out, i'm afraid religions have that as part of their creed in most if not all cases, whereas human beings and Atheists tend to do it as part of basic human mistakes. Atheists, for example, don't think in general that all Christians deserve an eternity in hell, and that the thought of such a thing is a human desire for revenge and not worth worshipping.

i don't have time for you. goodbye. i will go off and continue to not hate people for stupid things


You have defined hate as "Making sweeping generalizations of people." Please refer to my response to you on this subject if you ever have any questions on why your argument doesn't work in practice.

The rest of us will be solving problems through careful application of conflict and research, while not pretending that it's offensive.

listen. i'd like to help you, but my bf is puking mcchickens and coke all over the trailer, so imma have to wrap this up some other time.


That post was intended for you to read whenever you have time. Don't let our "Stupid", "Hateful", "Harmful" argument get in the way of your responsibilities, lest you elevate the importance of forum comments to those of Facebook, of which people are apparently hired and fired as a basis from.
She's not busy, she just replied to my memorable dreams and nightmares topic. So she is prolly just trolling, for some reason. lol. Most people would deal with their bf's puke mess then go back on the computer anyways, or let their boyfriend clean it themselves. So I just ignored her now. Her name fits her theme too, so she is obviously trolling actually.
Believing that the world was created a certain way, by a particular deity, with a particular moral structure, has a vast effect on how people interact. Distasteful manners are ones I wish to discourage.
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I mean, who cares? it doesn't matter who's right anymore. all you do is fight with each other. it doesn't matter what you believe in. all that matters is how you act in life. whether you are atheists, or muslim, or christian, or anything, you should all be nice to each other. you'll be a lot happier.


I can't speak for everyone here, but many of us actually care about whats true. We want to share our beliefs and speak to others about them so that we may better each other and our understanding of the world. It's not about bashing. I'm not sure anyone in the ED truly hates or dislikes anyone else. We just disagree with each other.

"true"? no one knows what's true. you'll never know until you die, and if the atheists are right, or the reincarnation people right, then it will never be known. yall should just stop worrying about it and get on with your lives. there are much more important things in this world to worry about than whose beliefs are correct.

You think no one can know what is true?
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i don't have time for you. goodbye. i will go off and continue to not hate people for stupid things


You have defined hate as "Making sweeping generalizations of people." Please refer to my response to you on this subject if you ever have any questions on why your argument doesn't work in practice.

The rest of us will be solving problems through careful application of conflict and research, while not pretending that it's offensive.

listen. i'd like to help you, but my bf is puking mcchickens and coke all over the trailer, so imma have to wrap this up some other time.


That post was intended for you to read whenever you have time. Don't let our "Stupid", "Hateful", "Harmful" argument get in the way of your responsibilities, lest you elevate the importance of forum comments to those of Facebook, of which people are apparently hired and fired as a basis from.
She's not busy, she just replied to my memorable dreams and nightmares topic. So she is prolly just trolling, for some reason. lol. Most people would deal with their bf's puke mess then go back on the computer anyways, or let their boyfriend clean it themselves. So I just ignored her now. Her name fits her theme too, so she is obviously trolling actually.


Lets hope so. I would rather deal with intentional, dishonest trolling than honest, close minded ignorance. :/
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i don't have time for you. goodbye. i will go off and continue to not hate people for stupid things


You have defined hate as "Making sweeping generalizations of people." Please refer to my response to you on this subject if you ever have any questions on why your argument doesn't work in practice.

The rest of us will be solving problems through careful application of conflict and research, while not pretending that it's offensive.

listen. i'd like to help you, but my bf is puking mcchickens and coke all over the trailer, so imma have to wrap this up some other time.


That post was intended for you to read whenever you have time. Don't let our "Stupid", "Hateful", "Harmful" argument get in the way of your responsibilities, lest you elevate the importance of forum comments to those of Facebook, of which people are apparently hired and fired as a basis from.
She's not busy, she just replied to my memorable dreams and nightmares topic. So she is prolly just trolling, for some reason. lol. Most people would deal with their bf's puke mess then go back on the computer anyways, or let their boyfriend clean it themselves. So I just ignored her now. Her name fits her theme too, so she is obviously trolling actually.


Lets hope so. I would rather deal with intentional, dishonest trolling than honest, close minded ignorance. :/
Is that why you ignored me from this thread, you think Im ignorant? Yes I am We Are Organisms. I get a little mad sometimes, but thats because the person was being stubbornly ignorant. That or a mod blocked me from here, and not the rest of this subforum for some odd reason, so I am sure you were the one who blocked me. Well I apologize for my rude behavior. Doesn't really mean I am wrong though.
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listen. i'd like to help you, but my bf is puking mcchickens and coke all over the trailer, so imma have to wrap this up some other time.


That post was intended for you to read whenever you have time. Don't let our "Stupid", "Hateful", "Harmful" argument get in the way of your responsibilities, lest you elevate the importance of forum comments to those of Facebook, of which people are apparently hired and fired as a basis from.
She's not busy, she just replied to my memorable dreams and nightmares topic. So she is prolly just trolling, for some reason. lol. Most people would deal with their bf's puke mess then go back on the computer anyways, or let their boyfriend clean it themselves. So I just ignored her now. Her name fits her theme too, so she is obviously trolling actually.


Lets hope so. I would rather deal with intentional, dishonest trolling than honest, close minded ignorance. :/
Is that why you ignored me from this thread, you think Im ignorant? Yes I am We Are Organisms. I get a little mad sometimes, but thats because the person was being stubbornly ignorant. That or a mod blocked me from here, and not the rest of this subforum for some odd reason, so I am sure you were the one who blocked me. Well I apologize for my rude behavior. Doesn't really mean I am wrong though.


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I didn't ignore you from anything?
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listen. i'd like to help you, but my bf is puking mcchickens and coke all over the trailer, so imma have to wrap this up some other time.


That post was intended for you to read whenever you have time. Don't let our "Stupid", "Hateful", "Harmful" argument get in the way of your responsibilities, lest you elevate the importance of forum comments to those of Facebook, of which people are apparently hired and fired as a basis from.
She's not busy, she just replied to my memorable dreams and nightmares topic. So she is prolly just trolling, for some reason. lol. Most people would deal with their bf's puke mess then go back on the computer anyways, or let their boyfriend clean it themselves. So I just ignored her now. Her name fits her theme too, so she is obviously trolling actually.


Lets hope so. I would rather deal with intentional, dishonest trolling than honest, close minded ignorance. :/
Is that why you ignored me from this thread, you think Im ignorant? Yes I am We Are Organisms. I get a little mad sometimes, but thats because the person was being stubbornly ignorant. That or a mod blocked me from here, and not the rest of this subforum for some odd reason, so I am sure you were the one who blocked me. Well I apologize for my rude behavior. Doesn't really mean I am wrong though.


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"Lets hope so."
This initial statement acts to present a shared concern.

"I would rather deal with intentional, dishonest trolling than honest, close minded ignorance."

This statement acts as a supplement to the previous one. It builds upon the "hope" that Trashic is in fact a troll because dealing with "intentional, dishonest trolling" would be better than having Trashic be a person of "honest, close minded ignorance". The general tone of the sentence, which acquires distinction mainly from the frown emoticon at the end of it " :/ " is meant to suggest that the latter of the two alternatives presented above would be tragic".

I was not calling you close minded, or ignorant.
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Why is it that people who complain about how we should all be nice, polite, and respectful are never nice, polite, or respectful?

As to your question, because it matters. If religion was just harmless pastime I wouldn't care, but it isn't. People live for it. People die for it. People pass laws restricting my freedom because of their religion. People regularly ostracize and attack me for not belonging to their religion.

You act as though we are discussing some harmless bit of personal preference. We are not. We are discussing a force which has had and continues to have a huge impact on humanity. If you would rather not discuss it, that's understandable. Might I suggest though that a forum devoted to discussing it is not the sort of place you should be.
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In a forum specifically dedicated to the topics of Morality and Religion, how can such opposing views not be expected to clash?
Anyone passionate about the truth and/or their views pertaining to it is going to want to share it, and opposition is inevitable. Have discussions and debates gotten carried away into something they shouldn't have? I wouldn't deny that, but there's nothing wrong with a good debate/discussion. Besides, it provides opportunities to learn and share knowledge and ideas.

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