What has God done for you...

[Anunnaki Assassin]

...that you could not do for yourself?

It's a pretty simple question that could spawn very detailed answers and point of views.

I grew up Episcopal, but a few years ago I really started to question my religion, and all others for that matter. (Mine being Christianity, because Episcopalians are just a man-made sect of)
And I started to notice a redundance in teachings, which was pretty much the standard golden rule taught by parents. Treat others as you would like to be treated. And so that's how I go through my life. I dont go to church, I dont believe in God. And yet I can still go through my day feeling good about myself and feeling that others feel good about me. So am I missing something, can God do something for me that I alone or with the support of my friends and family cannot do?

I'm sure the quick answer would be salvation, but what do I need to be saved from? I'm pretty sure I'm not in any harm or danger,unless people have malicious intents to do me harm.

Another one would be going to heaven. Well, there are far too many religions, and far too many different types of afterlife beliefs, that it could be concluded that anyone of those for which you believe it to be are true or false. Besides, prove it.

And while I'm not looking to blow anyones mind, really you could ask the question about yourself too, and perhaps find that you too, don't need a God, or a religion. Both of which, are ideas anyway.

[Lucky~9~Lives]

Anunnaki Assassin

What has God done for you...that you could not do for yourself?

Created the heavens and the earth; sacrificed His only son.

[Cyrus the Elder]

Anunnaki Assassin

...that you could not do for yourself?

My God? Gave me a free ******** doughnut. Size of my ******** head. I'd have to, like, sleep with someone to get that for myself.

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It's a pretty simple question that could spawn very detailed answers and point of views.

I just gave you one, for instance. blaugh

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I grew up Episcopal, but a few years ago I really started to question my religion, and all others for that matter. (Mine being Christianity, because Episcopalians are just a man-made sect of)
And I started to notice a redundance in teachings, which was pretty much the standard golden rule taught by parents. Treat others as you would like to be treated. And so that's how I go through my life.

Well, it's hardly redundant considering it doesn't appear in all religions. ninja

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I dont go to church, I dont believe in God. And yet I can still go through my day feeling good about myself and feeling that others feel good about me.

Yay you?

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So am I missing something, can God do something for me that I alone or with the support of my friends and family cannot do?

As previously stipulated, my God could give you free ******** doughnuts. Not that he'd take you though. ninja

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I'm sure the quick answer would be salvation, but what do I need to be saved from? I'm pretty sure I'm not in any harm or danger,unless people have malicious intents to do me harm.

Salvation isn't necessarily always from harm you know, at least not from physical harm.

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Another one would be going to heaven. Well, there are far too many religions, and far too many different types of afterlife beliefs, that it could be concluded that anyone of those for which you believe it to be are true or false. Besides, prove it.

Why would I need to prove something I didn't claim? ninja

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And while I'm not looking to blow anyones mind,

That's likely a good thing for several reasons. 3nodding

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really you could ask the question about yourself too, and perhaps find that you too, don't need a God, or a religion. Both of which, are ideas anyway.

Something being an idea doesn't really have a link to its actual existence, you know. ninja

[Cereal Cow Rapist]

He had me make love to a cow, not complaining because I am very satisfied with my outcome

[Omitsudina]

Lucky~9~Lives

Anunnaki Assassin

What has God done for you...that you could not do for yourself?

Created the heavens and the earth; sacrificed His only son.

I guess it doesn't matter that Scientists have proven the Big Bang Theory and it really wasn't a being in the sky that poofed it into existence out of nothing?

Dr. John C. Mather won the Nobel Prize for it.

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/starsgalaxies/nobel_prize_mather.html

[Aftis Sinfel]

Anunnaki Assassin

...that you could not do for yourself?

It's a pretty simple question that could spawn very detailed answers and point of views.

I grew up Episcopal, but a few years ago I really started to question my religion, and all others for that matter. (Mine being Christianity, because Episcopalians are just a man-made sect of)
And I started to notice a redundance in teachings, which was pretty much the standard golden rule taught by parents. Treat others as you would like to be treated. And so that's how I go through my life. I dont go to church, I dont believe in God. And yet I can still go through my day feeling good about myself and feeling that others feel good about me. So am I missing something, can God do something for me that I alone or with the support of my friends and family cannot do?

I'm sure the quick answer would be salvation, but what do I need to be saved from? I'm pretty sure I'm not in any harm or danger,unless people have malicious intents to do me harm.

Another one would be going to heaven. Well, there are far too many religions, and far too many different types of afterlife beliefs, that it could be concluded that anyone of those for which you believe it to be are true or false. Besides, prove it.

And while I'm not looking to blow anyones mind, really you could ask the question about yourself too, and perhaps find that you too, don't need a God, or a religion. Both of which, are ideas anyway.

*sighs* Why did you walk away? Just because you thought you could do it all yourself?

God gave me life, I wasn't supposed to be alive, but I am. I've come close to death three times and each time was saved and I know God put those people there to save me, it was no coincidence.

God changes man, because whatever arguement I can use to prove you wrong will do nothing to change you. But if I pray for you and others do too, then God will soften the heart you turned to stone and you will find Him again.

The Golden Rule came from the Bible. It's a guideline for how to live down here. But we must also have a relationship with God to be fully whole. There will always be an emptiness in man that we will try to fill with pleasures and the what-not but all for nothing. Only God can fill that void. (I'm sure you'll deny this, but I'm also sure you feel it)

Humans give up and fall down, they hav their limits. God can see you through to the end though. Where we give up once we know we have cancer or a disease and live with the thought that we can never be cured, God will heal and He will give you life again.

I do need God, for everything. I'm weak, sinful, and full of wrong desires, but God keeps me from harm. Temptation is there, and I have the choice to fall or not, but God gives me the strength to deny those temptations.

[Punk Fox TH]

Aftis Sinfel

*sighs* Why did you walk away? Just because you thought you could do it all yourself?

How about I tell you why I walked away? I realized that I don't believe in only ONE god, and in fact believe that there are multitude of entities that can be called gods. I also believe some of these are worthy of worship. Some of them I don't feel are worthy, but other people do. And I'm not going to fault them their choice in godform. I also won't blame anyone who chooses not to worship a godform.

Aftis Sinfel

God gave me life, I wasn't supposed to be alive, but I am. I've come close to death three times and each time was saved and I know God put those people there to save me, it was no coincidence.

Oddly, I halfway understand this thinking. I really don't believe in blind luck, as this universe functions to well on sound mathematical principles to be truly luck based. I've had experiences in which I was within inches of death, and I do attribute them to an entity or entities. But I didn't get told who and I won't say God ((I assume YHWH in this case.)) did it. Though YHWH might have.

Aftis Sinfel

God changes man, because whatever arguement I can use to prove you wrong will do nothing to change you. But if I pray for you and others do too, then God will soften the heart you turned to stone and you will find Him again.

I wish YHWH and His followers the best of luck in 'softening' my 'hard' heart.

Aftis Sinfel

The Golden Rule came from the Bible. It's a guideline for how to live down here. But we must also have a relationship with God to be fully whole. There will always be an emptiness in man that we will try to fill with pleasures and the what-not but all for nothing. Only God can fill that void. (I'm sure you'll deny this, but I'm also sure you feel it)

Actually, the golden rule popped up in various cultures world wide. It's a basic idea that has evolved into 'do to others what you would want them to do to you.'

As for the emptiness of man ((Which really belongs in a seperate paragraph as the Golden Rule says nothing about God or the emptiness of man.)) Prove it. I've felt more whole in a loving relationship than a relationship with God ever gave me.

Aftis Sinfel

Humans give up and fall down, they hav their limits. God can see you through to the end though. Where we give up once we know we have cancer or a disease and live with the thought that we can never be cured, God will heal and He will give you life again.

My own will can produce the same amazing health benefits that faith in god can produce. It's actually the faith that is most important, not the god. At least for secular health benefits. If you believe in the miracle part, well, nothing to say one way or the other as it can't be proven consistently, and it also can't be disproven.

Aftis Sinfel

I do need God, for everything. I'm weak, sinful, and full of wrong desires, but God keeps me from harm. Temptation is there, and I have the choice to fall or not, but God gives me the strength to deny those temptations.

Weak how? Sinful how? What wrong desires? Is there such a thing?

Look, I'm glad your FAITH in a god gives you strength to deny temptations to things YOU despise. But don't tell people that turning from YHWH is wrong because of YOUR opinion.

[Camera Stellata]

Omitsudina

Lucky~9~Lives

Anunnaki Assassin

What has God done for you...that you could not do for yourself?

Created the heavens and the earth; sacrificed His only son.

I guess it doesn't matter that Scientists have proven the Big Bang Theory and it really wasn't a being in the sky that poofed it into existence out of nothing?

Dr. John C. Mather won the Nobel Prize for it.

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/starsgalaxies/nobel_prize_mather.html

Correct - This does not matter, unless of course youre someone that takes the creation story literally.

[Lucky~9~Lives]

Omitsudina

Lucky~9~Lives

Anunnaki Assassin

What has God done for you...that you could not do for yourself?

Created the heavens and the earth; sacrificed His only son.

I guess it doesn't matter that Scientists have proven the Big Bang Theory and it really wasn't a being in the sky that poofed it into existence out of nothing?

I didn't claim God poofed anything.

[Omitsudina]

Lucky~9~Lives

Omitsudina

Lucky~9~Lives

Anunnaki Assassin

What has God done for you...that you could not do for yourself?

Created the heavens and the earth; sacrificed His only son.

I guess it doesn't matter that Scientists have proven the Big Bang Theory and it really wasn't a being in the sky that poofed it into existence out of nothing?

I didn't claim God poofed anything.

You said he created the earth..that was just my way of saying the same thing. I will correct myself if that's what it takes:

'It really wasn't a being in the sky that 'created' it into existence'

Better?

[Omitsudina]

dio777

Omitsudina

Lucky~9~Lives

Anunnaki Assassin

What has God done for you...that you could not do for yourself?

Created the heavens and the earth; sacrificed His only son.

I guess it doesn't matter that Scientists have proven the Big Bang Theory and it really wasn't a being in the sky that poofed it into existence out of nothing?

Dr. John C. Mather won the Nobel Prize for it.

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/starsgalaxies/nobel_prize_mather.html

Correct - This does not matter, unless of course youre somone that takes the creation story literally.

Well considering he said that God created the universe I'm assuming he does which is why I said it.

[Camera Stellata]

Omitsudina

dio777

Omitsudina

Lucky~9~Lives

Anunnaki Assassin

What has God done for you...that you could not do for yourself?

Created the heavens and the earth; sacrificed His only son.

I guess it doesn't matter that Scientists have proven the Big Bang Theory and it really wasn't a being in the sky that poofed it into existence out of nothing?

Dr. John C. Mather won the Nobel Prize for it.

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/starsgalaxies/nobel_prize_mather.html

Correct - This does not matter, unless of course youre somone that takes the creation story literally.

Well considering he said that God created the universe I'm assuming he does which is why I said it.

Im gonna go out on a limb here and assume Lucky isnt a Christian Creationist. So you dont think god could create the universe through the mechanism of the big bang?

[Punk Fox TH]

dio777

So you dont think god could create the universe through the mechanism of the big bang?

I'll say I believe that there is a creator God and even if it CAN break the rules of the natural world, it chooses not to. Which is why I only dispute the science when it starts 'disproving god' since it can't.

[Enchantingly Unexplained]

God gave me life.
God will give me death.
God gave me the entirety of existence.
Why? God only knows.

[Zoni]

You know, several years ago I was clinically dead for a short period of time. I can safely say that the Christian god was suspiciously absent from the afterlife I experienced. However, happily, other gods didn't feel so inclined to duck out.

Is there a God with a capital G? Probably. But the celebrity status has definitely gone to his head.