"War on Scientology" [NEW Articles and vids]

[Zeo Proctor]

Uh-oh.

[WatcherPrime]

Remember those who have died because of this 'faith', those who have been allow to decend into madness because of an outright hatred of modern medication, those that suffered and endured at the hands of 'friends'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8Uzlh7KSVU

It is not those who believe in this group that Anon is after. It is those who profit from charging obsence amounts of money, enough to bankrupt people and families, for 'enlightenment'.

We are Anonymous.

We are Legion.

We do not Forgive.

We do not Forget.

Expect Us.

[Henry Dorsett Case]

WatcherPrime

It is not those who believe in this group that Anon is after. It is those who profit from charging obsence amounts of money, enough to bankrupt people and families, for 'enlightenment'.

You mean the group that harassed the US government into granting it tax-exempt status, that hasn't been touched for deaths or child abuse, and that carried out a raid against an FBI facility? Good luck with that, kids. Oh, right, you're "anonymous". Half of Anonymous couldn't even read yet when anon.penet.fi was raided at the behest of Scientology and forced to give up a user's identification. Or when the Fishman court papers were sealed in the US to protect the OT III documents.

But of course a bunch of barely-coordinated press gangs of loud-mouthed brats who ride the coattails of the New Big Thing are going to change all of that, and the CoS will be brought to its knees. Larger groups that you have tried. Want to fix things? Involve the government. Or else someone's going to do something stupid and you can watch your precious "Anonymous" status go bye-bye when you're the ones being investigated. Partyvans aren't only for *****, you know.

Gaia is not your personal stomping ground. GB2/b/.

[Vryko Lakas]

Zeo Proctor

Uh-oh.

Something has perhaps piqued your interest?

[Henry Dorsett Case]

~Toni-Sama~

Wanna know something cool? If the Feds wanted to stop us, they could have already done so.

Right. Because the Feds never take more than a few days to catch someone.

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Wanna know what we do with those C&D letters from the lawyers? We wipe our asses with 'em.

That sounds like an admission of acting in bad faith. Ooh, have fun with that one if and when you ever have to appear in court. You're not in the right just because the CoS is "evil". Remember that.

Also remember that people have been fighting this fight longer than you've been alive, and it's still not over. Anonymous is not the Messiah that will end this all. Get over your collective selves.

[~Toni-Sama~]

Henry Dorsett Case

~Toni-Sama~

Wanna know something cool? If the Feds wanted to stop us, they could have already done so.

Right. Because the Feds never take more than a few days to catch someone.

And you think cybercrime hasn't been coming up over the past few days? Believe me, it's a hot-button issue. Scientology hasn't been mentioned once. The Feds don't care.

Besides, this started eleven days ago. Ample time to stop Anon. The cavalry isn't coming this time.

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Wanna know what we do with those C&D letters from the lawyers? We wipe our asses with 'em.

That sounds like an admission of acting in bad faith. Ooh, have fun with that one if and when you ever have to appear in court. You're not in the right just because the CoS is "evil". Remember that.

Also remember that people have been fighting this fight longer than you've been alive, and it's still not over. Anonymous is not the Messiah that will end this all. Get over your collective selves.

But the evil lawyers are as bad as the Scienos. They're all ******** criminals. I respect their lawyers as much as I respect their death threats and their harassment. The RTC is a criminal organization backed by money and a loose interpretations of laws.

And yes, if Scientology is evil, then Anonymous justified in removing them. They over-stepped their bounds, and need to be taken down. Heck, the US Government should've done this years ago, after Mary Sue was indicted and Hubbard went into hiding. They know what we know - Scientology is a scam perpetrated by the greediest bastards on the planet. They've killed and lied to protect their own asses, so let 'em hang.

Ask Lisa McPherson (36) about Scientology. Ask Jeremy Perkins about the wonders of the "religion". How about Heribert Pfaff (31)? Josephus Havenith (45)? The unidentified body found at FLAG in 1989?

Noah Lottic (24 years old)?
James Hester?
Stacy Meyer (20)?
Susan Meister (23)?

And there are more. Lots more. Like Ian Halperin.

There is nothing you can say that will change my opinion about this criminal organization. You might not see it, but I refuse to let myself be blinded by "political correctness". If I'm too frightened by these criminals to speak up, then I'm a coward. If I am afraid to speak up because of "freedom of religion", then I'm a fool. If I decry the only people willing to end this plague upon humanity, then I'm both.

I'm sorry that some of you don't see it. You choose not to, for the reason "it's a religion". Nothing could be further from the truth. This is a murderous cult, a criminal organization of the highest order.

And if Anonymous isn't going to end this, who will? No one else has kept the fight up in this manner. No one else wants to take on the problem. They're all too frightened of the repercussions of the ******** Scienos.

To anonymous, the organization of Scientology is "Fair Game". Their lawyers are "Fair Game". Their supporters are likewise "Fair Game". If they take no prisoners, neither shall anonymous.

[Celeblin Galadeneryn]

******** hell.

You want to know who sounds like a Scientologist? ~Toni-Sama~.

Seriously, you come in here, insist you're right, ad hom anyone who remotely opposes you, then precede to act like a half coherent d**k.

Sounds pretty Scientologist to me.

PROTIP:Take a ******** look around.

Have you realised yet that most of us here agree with you? That Scientology is ******** up right proper? No? Too busy spouting that body politic?

Yeah, thought so. Let it go.

Did you even look at what Case was saying?

He's saying you're all assholes. You're all assholes and he doesn't really think that you're doing anything for the good of humanity, so much as it amuses you. Which is ******** true, because if raiding scientology wasn't funny, you'd still be wanking to Lolcats.

He's also pointing out the CoS isn't exactly virgin when it comes to raids, or /b/ tactics in general. Mostly because it ******** uses them. Raids? Been there. Giving someone's personal information to the rest of it's members? Done that.

But like it was said, Gaia is not your personal soap box. You say you can raid the CoS all you want and get away with it? Then why are you wasting your time here? Don't you have distribution of service you have to deny?

[TeaDidikai]

One thing I find rather disappointing is that if a Christian was speaking of Christians the way Tom was in the video, many people would applaud their dedication to their faith.

[Henry Dorsett Case]

Did Vryko or I ever defend Scientology? Ever? Can you point to where we've defended the group? Both of us are simply saying that Anon is acting like prattling, drugged-out idiots by doing DDoS attacks and "raids". But you've locked yourself into this mindset that if I'm not for the /b/tard vandalism and idiocy, I must be for Scientology. You've just become intimate with the bifurcation fallacy - was it good for you too?

Could you stop calling me Scifag? First off, because every time you do, you get reported for flaming; second, because it's completely inaccurate. I'm not a Scientologist. I used to send every single person I knew to Operation Clambake. I used to distribute Xenu flyers. I'm just an adult who knows that resorting to the tactics of the violent WTO protesters does not help your cause.

And oh yes, I'm sure you know every single damn thing that the FBI's looking into right this very moment. Your hubris is astounding, kid. I have former FBI, ATF, and DEA in my family, and I don't know half of what they did. There are these little things called Security Classifications; you might have heard of them. They allow the government to do things that not every citizen knows about immediately. Furthermore, they're a little more diligent than your local police force at gathering evidence and dealing with accusations of crime. There's a reason they've been parodied as arresting drug lords on their deathbeds; they might care, but they're waiting for someone to make a move that lets them press more than simple cyber-trespass charges. The FBI cybercrime division would love to have another Kevin Mitnick to point at. You don't know everything. Stop pretending you do.

@Tea: When was the last time a Christian church had a known policy that people who were not Christian could be lied to, robbed, sued out of existence, libeled, slandered, or killed? What Century was the Inquisition, and how many Christians today think it was batshit? Fair Game still exists, though they're not supposed to call it that anymore. They still Dead Agent anyone who speaks openly against the religion. They're not analogous to your garden variety Christian - they're the Phelps-level "evangelical" types.

[~Toni-Sama~]

Celeb: Been workin' on it since the 18th, darlin'. SciDBomb and the Low-Orbit Ion Cannon? mrgreen

Case: Amazing. You people still think the FBI investigates cyber crime? Not even close. If you're gonna try to bullshit me, at least make it believeable. Tell me the NSA investigates cyber crime, and I'll bite. Heck, even the Secret Service (who used to investigate it). But the FBI?

Fail. And there are feds in the anonymous group. Raiding? Who knows. They're in amongst anonymous, though. Anonymous is Legion,etc.

And if you don't think we're effective...
Here's the web traffic graph for the past month.

Keep talking. Between Raidchan/Partyvan radio and the butthurt BAAAAWWWWWfags I find here, I'm well entertained. Please, keep bringing it. Give me an excuse to keep talking. I keep laughing.

Which brings me to my next point: Group Participation. Why not join Anonymous in bringing down the church? If you wanna do it, this is your chance. Give us ideas. Make it work. Contribute to something worthwhile and be remembered for doing something awesome.

And if you're not going to assist us, then you're just taking up space. You b***h about our methods even though we're clearly getting results. ********, no one cares about you. Anonymous is making this work regardless of you, and certainly doesn't care what you think. I advise you to stay out of Anonymous' way while Scientology is dealt with. When that's over, Gaia won't be too far down the list. Lulz will be had; you can be pissy about us then.

[Baby Eating Darth Vader]

People here seem to be forgetting that what CoS is dealing with is actually Anonymous. For every Anon that falls Anonymous will find 10 to take his place. Anonymous is not a group of loud-mouthed brats. Anonymous is a creature that can reinforce and upgrade itself when necessary. It's like the "Google as God" scenario.

[WatcherPrime]

Anonymous takes all kinds. Because you speak of it, you are it. By prolonging this debate, you are helping the cause.

In fact, I would like to invite you to research "Free Zone" Scientology. This is Scientology, as the CoS teaches, but without the serial abuses.

Not all are hackers, most are thinkers. The larger question to the critics is simple: What have you done aside from decry the theorical methods of Anonymous? In fact, has it not crossed your mind that the DDoS attacks might just be a large influx of unique hits, their wonderlust peaked by what Cruise is saying?

Regardless, the 'enlightened', as them tout themseleves couldn't keep a simple website up regardless of what truly went on.

[Shaviv]

What Anon doesn't understand, in its arrogance, is that stupidity cannot be destroyed. It cannot be hounded out of existence. If it could, then the Republican party would have collapsed long ago, the Democratic party would have been crippled and this country would be mostly ruled by the Common ******** Sense party.

You're trying to kill a runny custard with a steak knife. Guess what - every time you cut a piece off, it just flows back. Every time you press down here, it moves away and pops up there. You're going to have your fun, sure, and then you'll be finished, and the Scientologists will be right back. It's like whoever firebombed the WBC. You know about that? Someone arsoned their church but had followed best-practices for covering his tracks, so the perp was never found, and the WBC came back louder than ever, convinced that not only were the armies of fags and niggers and Christ-killing Jews out to get them, so was the US government.

That's precedent for your war on the CoS. You're not going to do any good, and you're just going to make yourself look like emofags. Your basic cause - fighting the cult mentality - is good, but your method is frankly quite stupid; the only way to fight cults is with education. Attacking them drives them underground where they fester.