Three Kinds Of Morality, Which One Do You Support?

[The Willow Of Darkness]

TANRailgun

Lucky~9~Lives

TANRailgun

I believe we SHOULD have an "objective morality", however even an "objective morality" is subjective, as it places value on human life (or other life) and value is always subjective.

How is value always subjective?

What's value is objective?

Any of them, assuming the exist, as by definition if there is to be something valued, it must be the case that it is true that it is being valued.

In terms of morals, they are objective because when argues a moral position they are taking that feelings about what should happen that are subjectively present to their consciousness reflect a truth of what action should be taken: they are arguing that there is an objective truth of what should happen that is apparent in a subjective state.

This allows the value which determines what is moral(X should happen) to be present only in a subjective manner(to them), with many disagreeing, yet still be truth that applies to everyone, even when they don't feel it is in their own subjective state.

[oHoN]

The Willow Of Darkness

TANRailgun

Lucky~9~Lives

TANRailgun

I believe we SHOULD have an "objective morality", however even an "objective morality" is subjective, as it places value on human life (or other life) and value is always subjective.

How is value always subjective?

What's value is objective?

Any of them, assuming the exist, as by definition if there is to be something valued, it must be the case that it is true that it is being valued.

In terms of morals, they are objective because when argues a moral position they are taking that feelings about what should happen that are subjectively present to their consciousness reflect a truth of what action should be taken: they are arguing that there is an objective truth of what should happen that is apparent in a subjective state.

This allows the value which determines what is moral(X should happen) to be present only in a subjective manner(to them), with many disagreeing, yet still be truth that applies to everyone, even when they don't feel it is in their own subjective state.

Are you trying to argue that it is objectively true that there are subjective moral truths? Or that there are objective moral truths?

[The Willow Of Darkness]

oHoN

The Willow Of Darkness

TANRailgun

Lucky~9~Lives

TANRailgun

I believe we SHOULD have an "objective morality", however even an "objective morality" is subjective, as it places value on human life (or other life) and value is always subjective.

How is value always subjective?

What's value is objective?

Any of them, assuming the exist, as by definition if there is to be something valued, it must be the case that it is true that it is being valued.

In terms of morals, they are objective because when argues a moral position they are taking that feelings about what should happen that are subjectively present to their consciousness reflect a truth of what action should be taken: they are arguing that there is an objective truth of what should happen that is apparent in a subjective state.

This allows the value which determines what is moral(X should happen) to be present only in a subjective manner(to them), with many disagreeing, yet still be truth that applies to everyone, even when they don't feel it is in their own subjective state.

Are you trying to argue that it is objectively true that there are subjective moral truths? Or that there are objective moral truths?

That if there is to be moral truth, it is necessarily objective, but that such a truth can only be known through the subjective state of an individual(as any form of knowledge is only know to a given subjective consciousness).