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I have not heard much about either group so I would love to know. If anyone wants to post some information about there beliefs I'd be more than happy to read and reply on my thoughts concerning the matter.

My brother is a freemason. They're just a bunch of guys that get together and do charity work and stuff - if they are involved in the "New World Order" it would be news to me.

Thank You! My Dad is a Mason and all they do is read the bible and organize charity funds, we had a blood drive today and Tuesday we took donations for Scottish Right Hospital. If that's the new world it won't be so bad lol.


Your Dad's chapter reads the Bible? That's odd, it's not a Christian organization - that's actually where I think a lot of the rumors come from (A secretive, non-Christian organization! They must be planning to take over the world!). Perhaps it's regional - are you in the bible belt?
Why wouldnt new world order be religious? Symbols have been frequent in religion, the symbols used would be as old as the organization itself or older, so all the symbolism in music videoes people claim to be nwo s**t probably isnt, but if it was itd show how much into symbols they are which tells you they would be into the western symbolism, which almost gurantees thhey are some form of western religious, most of which are christian, and christians are everywhere so itd be easier fo rthem to organize the world than anythign else, not like its real. Though if there is a group that controls the world its probably simply corporations working together to own us. And if thats true, then they arent going to genocide people in first world countries with diseases unless they can own the remaining population, because if they killed the people that helped make them money it wouldnt make s**t for sense. Who buys all their ******** electronics etc, without america half the bussinesses in the world probably would dry up or not exist.

So eveyrone needs to stop being retarded.


Well, considering the time during which these organizations were formed, Christianity wouldn't be a "New WOrld Order" it would be the one that already existed. But that wasn't my point and I never said the "new World Order" couldn't be Christian; my point was that the freemasons are not a Christian group and when they (a secretive non-Christian group) started to proliferate a few hundred years ago, I think it freaked people out and they started a bunch of rumors about it.

And I really can't understand the rest of your post - what are you trying to say?
So I get around. I've been in pretty much everything but a mosque. And yes, the "New World Order," is not so new lol. Not sure how it's supposed to apply as a new world order anyway. Freemasons in my experience are not that different from any other variant of the Christian/Jewish/Muslim community. They believe in God, and they maintain their practice. However, they also make an attempt to co-habitate well with others. I know, such a crime, right? Yes, they have rituals and ceremonies that may vary quite a bit from their religious norm, but these rituals in many cases sybolize their relationship with God, a learning experience, or how to better themselves and their thinking. They prodede through various degrees and cohabitate in the form of a brotherhood, or family if you will. It eludes me how these values and teachings are to be construed as evil. Although I have heard many accusations about secrecy and putting people to death for speaking of their secrets. Well, this is often a matter of context. Back when Free Masons were put to death for speaking in public of their ways, it was often told to keep yourselves in secrecy, lest you be put to death. This was a warning from one brother to another, as to keep him safe from harm. Somehow along the way, Christian biggots and the like read really, really far into this and go, "Oh, keepin' secrets and tellin' or you will die.... they must want to kill you bro!" I mean, I could be missing something, but so far - completely in context - every argument for why these people are evil that has been thrown at me has fallen into the pit of ingorance and misguided information. At best, the grounds that their unity is accepting of opposing beliefs, is one of the better arguments for their lack of appeal. But that's pretty much saying, they want peace, therefor they are terri-bad and must be put down. After all, any true believer of any sort will want anyone not like him to suffer, die, or burn in hell... whatever lol. These people are often pretty cool. But I will finish by saying not to judge any religion or walk of life until you have been a part of it. Walk with them. Talk with them. Stand with them in their worship and see why it is they believe what they believe. Then make your decision. If you develop your opinion of these people from ranting biggots in your local baptist church, etc. it's going to be a bad one regardless.
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1)The New World Order does not exist.
2)If it did Freemasonry would have nothing to do with it.

A middle aged social eating club is not take over the world platform material.
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I have not heard much about either group so I would love to know. If anyone wants to post some information about there beliefs I'd be more than happy to read and reply on my thoughts concerning the matter.

My brother is a freemason. They're just a bunch of guys that get together and do charity work and stuff - if they are involved in the "New World Order" it would be news to me.

Thank You! My Dad is a Mason and all they do is read the bible and organize charity funds, we had a blood drive today and Tuesday we took donations for Scottish Right Hospital. If that's the new world it won't be so bad lol.


Your Dad's chapter reads the Bible? That's odd, it's not a Christian organization - that's actually where I think a lot of the rumors come from (A secretive, non-Christian organization! They must be planning to take over the world!). Perhaps it's regional - are you in the bible belt?

To my knowledge, Masonry requires some form of theistic belief, and that set belief can be different from a chapter-by-chapter to an individual-by-individual basis depending on where you live.
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I have not heard much about either group so I would love to know. If anyone wants to post some information about there beliefs I'd be more than happy to read and reply on my thoughts concerning the matter.

My brother is a freemason. They're just a bunch of guys that get together and do charity work and stuff - if they are involved in the "New World Order" it would be news to me.

Thank You! My Dad is a Mason and all they do is read the bible and organize charity funds, we had a blood drive today and Tuesday we took donations for Scottish Right Hospital. If that's the new world it won't be so bad lol.


Your Dad's chapter reads the Bible? That's odd, it's not a Christian organization - that's actually where I think a lot of the rumors come from (A secretive, non-Christian organization! They must be planning to take over the world!). Perhaps it's regional - are you in the bible belt?

To my knowledge, Masonry requires some form of theistic belief, and that set belief can be different from a chapter-by-chapter to an individual-by-individual basis depending on where you live.


They are - or originally were - Deistic, if I am not mistaken. I Imagine they are a lot more flexible than they used to be, but they are certainly not a Christian organization - theist yes, Christian no.
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The Illuminati was a small club in Bavaria that disbanded in 1784.

And the Freemasons are a fraternal organization, the original sources of opposition was religions and politics which did not like the idea of a secret organization, so they spread black propaganda which was most prevalent during WW2 in Nazi Germany with the outlawing of the organization and sending it's members to death camps. Modern conspiracy theorists have picked up some of the propaganda from these groups and took it at face value.

I am sorry the world is plenty evil enough without having to explain it with a shadow government.

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