Strange hypothetical question for religious pro-lifers

[Demireius]

This question may seem pretty nonsensical to most of you...
I'll just get right to it (again, it may sound really stupid...but I need religious opinion on this, a tiny part of the book i'm writing involves it).

If demons were/are real (any kind, really. Incubus, pit fiend, or whatever the heck you wanna imagine) and they came to the surface world...And it was somehow widely known that yes, this was a demon...And it did happen....And it raped many women resulting in pregnancies (half-demon babies! But still with some human DNA in there of course. Your general half-my-dna-half-yours deal), would religious folk who were normally staunch pro-lifers RECCOMMEND (or even demand) abortion for the women carrying a half-demon baby?

Would you ALLOW for it with no harsh feelings in that kind of case if she wished to do so?

Or would you say "It's a life, you shouldn't abort it. It's half human, you could probably raise it to be a good person so give it a chance. Maybe it can help someone."?

Oh, and something for pro-choicers too, religious or not! Would you press a friend who had been raped by a demon to get an abortion if she was unsure whether she wanted to?


Weird question, eh? There's not really that much point to it beyond my curiosity and wanting opinions so I can write more about it. Discussion is welcome by any religion or lack thereof, and any social-political spectrum.


(disclaimer; I don't really believe in this stuff, it's just interesting for me.)
Oh geez i'm gonna be eaten alive for talking about demon abortion. sweatdrop

[Lucky~9~Lives]

Demireius

Oh, and something for pro-choicers too, religious or not! Would you press a friend who had been raped by a demon to get an abortion if she was unsure whether she wanted to?

Probably.

[Demireius]

Lucky~9~Lives

Demireius

Oh, and something for pro-choicers too, religious or not! Would you press a friend who had been raped by a demon to get an abortion if she was unsure whether she wanted to?

Probably.

What would you tell her/How would you tell her? And how hard would you press for it to be done?

[Lucky~9~Lives]

Demireius

Lucky~9~Lives

Demireius

Oh, and something for pro-choicers too, religious or not! Would you press a friend who had been raped by a demon to get an abortion if she was unsure whether she wanted to?

Probably.

What would you tell her/How would you tell her?

"Nothing good comes from demons"; nonchalantly, with a hint of whining.

Demireius

And how hard would you press for it to be done?

Not very.

[catspook]

Demireius

Oh, and something for pro-choicers too, religious or not! Would you press a friend who had been raped by a demon to get an abortion if she was unsure whether she wanted to?

No - it's her choice. I'd help her gather as much relevant information as possible (e.g. if there was evidence of how the demon babies would be after birth), but it would be her choice, not mine.

[Haha Coffee]

That is a weird question, but I can't really answer.
In Islam we don't believe that Jinn are able to procreate with Humans at all.

[Demireius]

The Irish Economy

That is a weird question, but I can't really answer.
In Islam we don't believe that Jinn are able to procreate with Humans at all.

To be honest, I think that's probably right. Non-humans would likely have a very hard time procreating with humans simply due to the differences in genetics! (I mean, it's not like a human can procreate with a dog or cat, for example).

Then again, lions and tigers can mate. It was originally believed the offspring of that mix would be sterile, but that ended up not being the case!!

So it's possible, but not very likely. I'd think you'd need a demon VERY close in genetics to a human to really have a chance at that, or one aided by magic, to even have a chance at that kind of thing happening.

[catspook]

Demireius

The Irish Economy

That is a weird question, but I can't really answer.
In Islam we don't believe that Jinn are able to procreate with Humans at all.

To be honest, I think that's probably right. Non-humans would likely have a very hard time procreating with humans simply due to the differences in genetics! (I mean, it's not like a human can procreate with a dog or cat, for example).

Then again, lions and tigers can mate. It was originally believed the offspring of that mix would be sterile, but that ended up not being the case!!

So it's possible, but not very likely. I'd think you'd need a demon VERY close in genetics to a human to really have a chance at that, or one aided by magic, to even have a chance at that kind of thing happening.

Wait, ligers aren't sterile? eek

That means lions and tigers are the same species!

[Demireius]

catspook

Demireius

Oh, and something for pro-choicers too, religious or not! Would you press a friend who had been raped by a demon to get an abortion if she was unsure whether she wanted to?

No - it's her choice. I'd help her gather as much relevant information as possible (e.g. if there was evidence of how the demon babies would be after birth), but it would be her choice, not mine.

-nods- partial demons are Cambions, and from their mythos they are usually very beautiful/handsome and adept with magic and social influence, and could be good or evil.
But of course, that's just myth! We're assuming this would be the first truly documented case of it happening! smile

Thanks for posting

[Demireius]

catspook

Demireius

The Irish Economy

That is a weird question, but I can't really answer.
In Islam we don't believe that Jinn are able to procreate with Humans at all.

To be honest, I think that's probably right. Non-humans would likely have a very hard time procreating with humans simply due to the differences in genetics! (I mean, it's not like a human can procreate with a dog or cat, for example).

Then again, lions and tigers can mate. It was originally believed the offspring of that mix would be sterile, but that ended up not being the case!!

So it's possible, but not very likely. I'd think you'd need a demon VERY close in genetics to a human to really have a chance at that, or one aided by magic, to even have a chance at that kind of thing happening.

Wait, ligers aren't sterile? eek

That means lions and tigers are the same species!

"According to Wild Cats of the World (1975) by C. A. W. Guggisberg, ligers and tiglons were long thought to be sterile: In 1943, a fifteen-year-old hybrid between a lion and an 'Island' tiger was successfully mated with a lion at the Munich Hellabrunn Zoo. The female cub, though of delicate health, was raised to adulthood."

And they're not the same species, but they ARE the same genus. (panthera leo x panthera tigris).

So I guess a demon would probably have to be in the same genus as a human at least if it were to occur, eh? Plausible, really, if they existed in a humanoid form. Probably. xD

[catspook]

Demireius

catspook

Demireius

The Irish Economy

That is a weird question, but I can't really answer.
In Islam we don't believe that Jinn are able to procreate with Humans at all.

To be honest, I think that's probably right. Non-humans would likely have a very hard time procreating with humans simply due to the differences in genetics! (I mean, it's not like a human can procreate with a dog or cat, for example).

Then again, lions and tigers can mate. It was originally believed the offspring of that mix would be sterile, but that ended up not being the case!!

So it's possible, but not very likely. I'd think you'd need a demon VERY close in genetics to a human to really have a chance at that, or one aided by magic, to even have a chance at that kind of thing happening.

Wait, ligers aren't sterile? eek

That means lions and tigers are the same species!

"According to Wild Cats of the World (1975) by C. A. W. Guggisberg, ligers and tiglons were long thought to be sterile: In 1943, a fifteen-year-old hybrid between a lion and an 'Island' tiger was successfully mated with a lion at the Munich Hellabrunn Zoo. The female cub, though of delicate health, was raised to adulthood."

And they're not the same species, but they ARE the same genus. (panthera leo x panthera tigris).

So I guess a demon would probably have to be in the same genus as a human at least if it were to occur, eh? Plausible, really, if they existed in a humanoid form. Probably. xD

Looking a little deeper, it appears that only the females are fertile. If the males had turned out to be fertile too, they would be the same species because the scientific definition of a species is a group of organisms that can interbreed.

So if the demons were the same species as humans both males and females would be fertile, if they were the same genus, the females might be fertile or they might not.

[Demireius]

catspook

Demireius

catspook

Demireius

The Irish Economy

That is a weird question, but I can't really answer.
In Islam we don't believe that Jinn are able to procreate with Humans at all.

To be honest, I think that's probably right. Non-humans would likely have a very hard time procreating with humans simply due to the differences in genetics! (I mean, it's not like a human can procreate with a dog or cat, for example).

Then again, lions and tigers can mate. It was originally believed the offspring of that mix would be sterile, but that ended up not being the case!!

So it's possible, but not very likely. I'd think you'd need a demon VERY close in genetics to a human to really have a chance at that, or one aided by magic, to even have a chance at that kind of thing happening.

Wait, ligers aren't sterile? eek

That means lions and tigers are the same species!

"According to Wild Cats of the World (1975) by C. A. W. Guggisberg, ligers and tiglons were long thought to be sterile: In 1943, a fifteen-year-old hybrid between a lion and an 'Island' tiger was successfully mated with a lion at the Munich Hellabrunn Zoo. The female cub, though of delicate health, was raised to adulthood."

And they're not the same species, but they ARE the same genus. (panthera leo x panthera tigris).

So I guess a demon would probably have to be in the same genus as a human at least if it were to occur, eh? Plausible, really, if they existed in a humanoid form. Probably. xD

Looking a little deeper, it appears that only the females are fertile. If the males had turned out to be fertile too, they would be the same species because the scientific definition of a species is a group of organisms that can interbreed.

So if the demons were the same species as humans both males and females would be fertile, if they were the same genus, the females might be fertile or they might not.

I see. Quite interesting! biggrin

[catspook]

Demireius

catspook

Demireius

catspook

Demireius

The Irish Economy

That is a weird question, but I can't really answer.
In Islam we don't believe that Jinn are able to procreate with Humans at all.

To be honest, I think that's probably right. Non-humans would likely have a very hard time procreating with humans simply due to the differences in genetics! (I mean, it's not like a human can procreate with a dog or cat, for example).

Then again, lions and tigers can mate. It was originally believed the offspring of that mix would be sterile, but that ended up not being the case!!

So it's possible, but not very likely. I'd think you'd need a demon VERY close in genetics to a human to really have a chance at that, or one aided by magic, to even have a chance at that kind of thing happening.

Wait, ligers aren't sterile? eek

That means lions and tigers are the same species!

"According to Wild Cats of the World (1975) by C. A. W. Guggisberg, ligers and tiglons were long thought to be sterile: In 1943, a fifteen-year-old hybrid between a lion and an 'Island' tiger was successfully mated with a lion at the Munich Hellabrunn Zoo. The female cub, though of delicate health, was raised to adulthood."

And they're not the same species, but they ARE the same genus. (panthera leo x panthera tigris).

So I guess a demon would probably have to be in the same genus as a human at least if it were to occur, eh? Plausible, really, if they existed in a humanoid form. Probably. xD

Looking a little deeper, it appears that only the females are fertile. If the males had turned out to be fertile too, they would be the same species because the scientific definition of a species is a group of organisms that can interbreed.

So if the demons were the same species as humans both males and females would be fertile, if they were the same genus, the females might be fertile or they might not.

I see. Quite interesting! biggrin

Indeed 3nodding I had assumed they were all sterile; I learned something today!

[Nityananda-rama dasa]

catspook

Wait, ligers aren't sterile? eek

That means lions and tigers are the same species!

There are very few cases (one I know of) of fertile tigons or ligers.

The same thing happens with mules. It is very rare, but it happens.


Also, fertility is not the sole definition of species, hence the so called "species problem"

[Nityananda-rama dasa]

In the case of Abrahamic faiths, I would assume it would be an issue of weather or not the child had a human soul. DNA isn't the issue.

In my religion, yes, the abortion would be wrong as we think that all living things have souls