Chieftain Twilight
stealthmongoose
Chieftain Twilight
stealthmongoose
I see myself adopting Kreia's stance on the force more than any other. Except than rather kill the mysteries of the universe, I would rather expose their secrets should they exist.
ehh... I tend to avoid looking too much into Darth Bane and Darth Kreia, because what I have learned comes across as terribly shortsighted to me. but ya know, I realy havn't learned enough about Kreia now that you mention it. don't quite know WHAT her views are. could you elaborate them, here?
There is very little to draw from, which is what may come across as short sighted. The fact is that it is very general, yet specific in places where it has the most influence. I tend to believe that was the focus of her message in the game. A hidden gnosis, the exposure of which could spell death for her greatest enemy: the Force.
Without getting too much into the mythos of it, the gist of it is that the dark side and light side of the force are a false dichotomy or false dilemma, and that by appealing to one sense of knowledge over the other, one becomes blind to their actual irrelevance to the universe.
Darth Traya's intent was to remove 'kill' the force, by rendering the galaxy deaf to it's ways.
One of her quotes likens the force to a poison, in which she uses it to kill her opponents and immunize herself.
Comparatively, I would observe the Force as a result of the universe and it's machinations. While I do agree that light and dark sides are false dilemmas, and see that small actions can have enormous impacts if they are applied at the right moments. I, like Darth Kreia, run into the dilemma of dealing with Hunger and Pain as allies and enemies, though i do not portray them as negatives to be discarded as unwanted apprentices but as 'necessary evils' to put it bluntly.
I find the Force to be a product of the universe, and as such while I would use it as a poison, i would immunize others from it rather than deafen the galaxy to it's ways. By exposing the nature of the force to those who do not know it's nature, I immunize the universe to the unnecessary mysteries surrounding it.
the problem with that way of thinking is that it relies on the assumption that the Force is seperrate from, disjoint even, from existence or beings or consciousness. that simply isn't true. all things, all concepts, even non-being are part of The Force.
I disagree. While the force flows through the universe and is created by the universe like kinetic energy, it does not survive absent of the universe. Without the medium of the material and the physical for the force to exude from, it is as conceptually sound as Motion existing without a single object to move.
This is not to say that the force is not a part of all things. I am merely stating that the force flows through us like motion does through objects, and as a result is created by the interaction of living beings within the universe, specifically force sensitive beings or places like Korriban or Coruscant.
My position isn't that the force is separate from the universe, my assertion is that the force is a product of the universe.
One's ability to understand and discover the mysteries of the force, reveal those mysteries to others, and immunize the galaxy from that mystery are not hinged upon the ideal that the force is separate or part of the universe. It is hinged upon the nature of the force, which can be investigated as proven by the various orders of Jedi and Sith who do so.