Should zoophiles be able to marry too?

[King Shining Heaven]

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Well, they're animals; they don;t have the same rights

Why is marriage different, then? Or, perhaps more importantly: why not?

It isn't; just as they don't have the right to do certain things, they don't have the right to marry nor we the right to marry them

Yes, it is. Animal's consent matters for marriage, but not for ownership? Why is that?

Because of the law; The law requires you consent to be married, it does not require a animal consenting to ownership. Moreover, most animals would not be intelligent enough to consent in either situation.

The question of the thread is "should," not "can."
Do you believe animals, therefore, should not be allowed to be owned as pets, for food, or for other means, then, if they cannot consent?

Yes, they should be allowed as those things. Marriage is a very different thing than any of that.

[Elus the Stranded]

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

It isn't; just as they don't have the right to do certain things, they don't have the right to marry nor we the right to marry them

Yes, it is. Animal's consent matters for marriage, but not for ownership? Why is that?

Because of the law; The law requires you consent to be married, it does not require a animal consenting to ownership. Moreover, most animals would not be intelligent enough to consent in either situation.

The question of the thread is "should," not "can."
Do you believe animals, therefore, should not be allowed to be owned as pets, for food, or for other means, then, if they cannot consent?

Yes, they should be allowed as those things. Marriage is a very different thing than any of that.

Yes, it is. It requires less sacrifice from the animal and provides it more freedom. So, I repeat: why those things, but not marriage.

[King Shining Heaven]

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

It isn't; just as they don't have the right to do certain things, they don't have the right to marry nor we the right to marry them

Yes, it is. Animal's consent matters for marriage, but not for ownership? Why is that?

Because of the law; The law requires you consent to be married, it does not require a animal consenting to ownership. Moreover, most animals would not be intelligent enough to consent in either situation.

The question of the thread is "should," not "can."
Do you believe animals, therefore, should not be allowed to be owned as pets, for food, or for other means, then, if they cannot consent?

Yes, they should be allowed as those things. Marriage is a very different thing than any of that.

Yes, it is. It requires less sacrifice from the animal and provides it more freedom. So, I repeat: why those things, but not marriage.

Because it's sick and wrong?

[Elus the Stranded]

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Because of the law; The law requires you consent to be married, it does not require a animal consenting to ownership. Moreover, most animals would not be intelligent enough to consent in either situation.

The question of the thread is "should," not "can."
Do you believe animals, therefore, should not be allowed to be owned as pets, for food, or for other means, then, if they cannot consent?

Yes, they should be allowed as those things. Marriage is a very different thing than any of that.

Yes, it is. It requires less sacrifice from the animal and provides it more freedom. So, I repeat: why those things, but not marriage.

Because it's sick and wrong?

In what way, and by whose standard? In many respects, marriage would be exactly the same as pet ownership.

[King Shining Heaven]

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Because of the law; The law requires you consent to be married, it does not require a animal consenting to ownership. Moreover, most animals would not be intelligent enough to consent in either situation.

The question of the thread is "should," not "can."
Do you believe animals, therefore, should not be allowed to be owned as pets, for food, or for other means, then, if they cannot consent?

Yes, they should be allowed as those things. Marriage is a very different thing than any of that.

Yes, it is. It requires less sacrifice from the animal and provides it more freedom. So, I repeat: why those things, but not marriage.

Because it's sick and wrong?

In what way, and by whose standard? In many respects, marriage would be exactly the same as pet ownership.

I don't know a lot of pet owners who have sex with their pets.

[Elus the Stranded]

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Yes, they should be allowed as those things. Marriage is a very different thing than any of that.

Yes, it is. It requires less sacrifice from the animal and provides it more freedom. So, I repeat: why those things, but not marriage.

Because it's sick and wrong?

In what way, and by whose standard? In many respects, marriage would be exactly the same as pet ownership.

I don't know a lot of pet owners who have sex with their pets.

I wasn't aware that marriage was the same thing as sex.
Although, unfortunately, I do know some. stare

[King Shining Heaven]

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Yes, they should be allowed as those things. Marriage is a very different thing than any of that.

Yes, it is. It requires less sacrifice from the animal and provides it more freedom. So, I repeat: why those things, but not marriage.

Because it's sick and wrong?

In what way, and by whose standard? In many respects, marriage would be exactly the same as pet ownership.

I don't know a lot of pet owners who have sex with their pets.

I wasn't aware that marriage was the same thing as sex.
Although, unfortunately, I do know some. stare

Sex is generally an expectation of marriage

[Elus the Stranded]

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Because it's sick and wrong?

In what way, and by whose standard? In many respects, marriage would be exactly the same as pet ownership.

I don't know a lot of pet owners who have sex with their pets.

I wasn't aware that marriage was the same thing as sex.
Although, unfortunately, I do know some. stare

Sex is generally an expectation of marriage

Not really. Maybe to a sex-hound.

[King Shining Heaven]

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Because it's sick and wrong?

In what way, and by whose standard? In many respects, marriage would be exactly the same as pet ownership.

I don't know a lot of pet owners who have sex with their pets.

I wasn't aware that marriage was the same thing as sex.
Although, unfortunately, I do know some. stare

Sex is generally an expectation of marriage

Not really. Maybe to a sex-hound.

......So, if you got married, you wouldn't expect sex?

[Elus the Stranded]

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

I don't know a lot of pet owners who have sex with their pets.

I wasn't aware that marriage was the same thing as sex.
Although, unfortunately, I do know some. stare

Sex is generally an expectation of marriage

Not really. Maybe to a sex-hound.

......So, if you got married, you wouldn't expect sex?

Why should I?

[King Shining Heaven]

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

I don't know a lot of pet owners who have sex with their pets.

I wasn't aware that marriage was the same thing as sex.
Although, unfortunately, I do know some. stare

Sex is generally an expectation of marriage

Not really. Maybe to a sex-hound.

......So, if you got married, you wouldn't expect sex?

Why should I?

Why wouldn't you?

[Elus the Stranded]

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Sex is generally an expectation of marriage

Not really. Maybe to a sex-hound.

......So, if you got married, you wouldn't expect sex?

Why should I?

Why wouldn't you?

Because I don't have unreasonable expectations for my wife?

[King Shining Heaven]

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Sex is generally an expectation of marriage

Not really. Maybe to a sex-hound.

......So, if you got married, you wouldn't expect sex?

Why should I?

Why wouldn't you?

Because I don't have unreasonable expectations for my wife?

I hardly think sex is unreasonable expectation for a married couple.

[Elus the Stranded]

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

Elus the Stranded

Young King under Heaven

......So, if you got married, you wouldn't expect sex?

Why should I?

Why wouldn't you?

Because I don't have unreasonable expectations for my wife?

I hardly think sex is unreasonable expectation for a married couple.

Sure it is. Why should sex be an obligation?

[Tea Age Sea]

stealthmongoose

Furthermore, on your note about the spiders; We don't typically rights of sentient personhood to things that don't have the complex neural network necessary for self-awareness or identity.

It's kind of why fetuses aren't considered citizens, among other things.

http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jan/cockroach-consciousness-neuron-similarity

Most people say, 'For heaven's sake, a bug isn't conscious.' But how do we know? We're not sure anymore. I don't kill bugs needlessly anymore."

Tiny Brains =/= Less Complex Brains.

We tend to be biased, as humans with our primate-based intellect. I assure you, that does not make our perceptions any better or more valid than any other non-human animal. It certainly does not guarantee our survival as a species, either.

http://www.utilitarian-essays.com/insect-pain.html

We (the general populace) don't tend to acknowledge that non-human animals are sentient, because then that would just make us look and feel bad.

It is a fallacy to compare a fetus to a fully fledged adult of the same or another species, especially <20wks.

Also, it is legal to have sex with animals in Denmark, as long as you don't abuse them. Animal sex tourism is becoming a thing there. And killing baby giraffes to piss everyone off.



Do I think you should be allowed to get legal benefits from marrying an animal? Hellll nooo. If that were the case, I would totally marry a spider! Marriages are stupid anyways.