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Demireius
I do believe my mother should have aborted me if she did not want me for ANY reason, regardless of what it was. Yeah.
So lets say your mom was delusional or brainwashed into thinking she was gonna give birth to lets say a unicorn, do you really think she is sound of mind to make the decision to have an abortion?
And do you think that those who NEVER, EVER wish to become pregnant should abstain for their whole lives?
Obviously not, you can have procedures to become sterile E.G. having your tubes tied or having your significant other have a vasectomy
tokophobic and would commit suicide if I became pregnant and an abortion was unavailable.
That in itself doesn't seem like it's not sound of mind for you to make a decision to due your phobia. I think you should deal with that before you give input to people who don't have the same traumatic association with this subject.(I'm sorry if i sound rude that's not my intent, I really hope you manage to overcome that in a healthy manner.)
Doctors refuse to sterilize me despite my multiple medical factors and the fact that i'm mentally nongender (neither female nor male, despite my biology).
I find this interesting, but don't really know much about that could you explain this to me? and may i ask why is it that they choose not to?
I can't have sex because I can't trust contraception that much and...Well, pregnancy is death for me. I freak out too much. It makes me very, very sad that I can't have sex with my boyfriend who I will eventually marry. I can't have sex with him on our wedding night. I can't have sex within the marriage.
It's not fair to him, or me. It upsets me that I can't do this for him. If doctors would sterilize more people who want it rather than preaching supposed childbearing duties and morals, this would be much easier.
wow that's pretty messed up I hope you guys manage, and maybe you should talk to him about getting a vasectomy
Oh, also, a major argument for abortion.
So. No person has the right to use another person's body against their will even if it results in death due to not being allowed to use the person, even if the effort/strain on the other person is very little
true but I'm not really talking about what people have a right(or will as I would like to see it) to do or not do. I'm talking about what the right thing to do is, people have the will and capability to do whatever they want, but that doesn't mean what they want to do is always good for them. We're looking at this in to different angles, probably the main thing that makes us disagree.
If a person can't do that kind of thing, why could a fetus? Effectively, a fetus would have MORE RIGHTS THAN A PERSON if they could do so. Is that fair?
Again it doesn't matter if its really fair, life isn't about making the whole world fair, its about working with what you have. I mean you could go on and on about whats fair but, actually trying to input fairness in the world is too unrealistic.
1. If she was that delusional she'd be of a more sound mind to have an abortion than to have a child. -snicker- I would much rather be aborted than unwanted for ANY reason, no matter what it was.
2. I have the money for sterilization for either of us, and insurance (til the end of next month, anyway), but they won't do it.
3. I'm simply not healthy enough, mentally or physically, to have the responsibility, pain, and panic of pregnancy. I'm a paranoid schizophrenic (all senses are affected, including touch) with severe panic disorder, anxiety disorder, depression, breathing issues doctors have not yet put a name on that make me always out of breath and unable to be around smokers or any pollution without a mask or i'll cough my lungs out, a heart arrythmia, moderate to severe joint issues, my legs randomly give out on me when i'm standing, vision issues (one of my eyes doesn't work) and I get headaches often, random twitching, accompanied by the gender issues and a few more things. In other words, i'm a walking medical case. And a lot of this is GENETIC. Other women in my family have issues like this. And my mom has fibromyalgia, and my dad has hemochromatosis. I may or may not have fibro, and I have signs of hemo though the test was negative.
IMO, it would be the cruelest thing in the world to bring a child into the world with problems like these running in my family so heavily. I go through my days like....I don't know. I'm not suicidal but I don't see the point in life. I'm going to die early because of my sicknesses anyway.
I don't know, i'm just saying that since I CAN make that decision, it's far safer for me both physically and mentally to make that decision on my own. I had a "pregnancy scare" one time. The reason was stupid, since I still had my periods and everything and we rarely had sex even back then, but my stomach was bloaty and for...around 3-4 months, I was in a constant state of serious panic. I lost some of my hair, couldn't eat, couldn't sleep, and self-harmed often by punching myself in the stomach. I was constantly writing in pain and agony and fear, mumbling and screaming at various times. It was insanely scary, and the ONLY symptoms were a larger belly and feelings of movement that ended up just being my intestines. So now I don't have sex because I never want that feeling again.
4. As far as sterilization goes...Doctors, at least in America, seem to be under the impression that everyone will end up wanting kids some day. They want to cover their asses so people don't sue them, and denying helpful yet "non-essential" procedures apparently helps them not be sued. Still other doctors, many of which are religious, claim that it's a woman's duty to have children. They do not understand what people like me go through, or sterilization violates their beliefs. That's what i've heard/experienced, anyways, regarding that. Vasectomies for males are a bit easier but still hard to get.
5. We've been together for 2 1/2 years now, and its been 11 months or more since we've had sex. We manage, luckily he's not that interested in sex and I was nearly asexual to begin with, but that doesn't stop me from thinking i'm holding him down. We're pretty happy though, lots of cuddles.
6/7. Well, the point is that you can think one way or another for yourself, sure. If you don't want an abortion/don't want your partner to get an abortion, make that known! Only have sex with people who share your viewpoint so there's no icky issues brought up in case something happens. But it's not right to impose your morals on others if said morals can create a slippery slope of happenings (for example, the personhood amendment that people are trying to pass which would make fetuses persons from conception could make it so hormonal birth control would be illegal in that state because those who use birth control might end up concieving and due to the birth control it MIGHT make the cells unable to implant). I don't mind pro-lifers so long as they're personally pro-life only and recognize all the awful things that could happen if fetuses are granted rights of persons (which, as I mentioned, they would in fact have MORE rights than persons if forced to remain in the woman, and also in that case rape/incest fetuses or those with deformities would probably not be allowed to be aborted either, because after all, it's a "person" but has more rights than a woman.)
....I hope I did that right, long post and my brain is kinda wobbly at the moment.
