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2. Or what if you don't believe in god? Do the rules still apply to you?
I suppose if you don't believe in God, then what the Bible says about this is irrelevant. Of course, without some form of God there is no purpose in morals at all. Let's all just kill and rape each other.


Not everyone needs the promise of an ultimate reward or munishment for their actions. Morals are a sense of what is ight and what is wrong, and this every person has tough what they believe to be right or wrong differs.

The problem is that if you have nothing to base your morals on except to say that its all up to the individual, what do you say to the person who murders and rapes people? Are they unethical? Based on what? Your opinions? Society? What determines ethics if not God?


They may be within their morals and so, to themselves and those that agree with them, are not unethical. Society determines ethics of the majority, the person determines ethics of the individual.


So if the person and/or the society said that murder was ok, then murder would be just dandy? If society is all that determines morality, then can't society determine things like homosexuality to be immoral and restrict same-sex marriages?
I wouldn't say for me that its religious, but rather morals, but then again I threw those out long ago, along with all the promises to not smoke, or do drugs. I think that if your not going to have sex, do it for yourself, not for some book, or god.
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Black Carpathia
Flemavenger
At 98% effective, have sex 49 times and you will likely get pregnant or an STD. Or, 1 out of every 49 people who have sex only once will get pregnant or an STD. The numbers look a little different when presented this way.



The chances aren't one in fifty out of every time you have sex, they are one in fifty every time you have sex. Your numbers would be mathmaticly correct if you had sex with the same condom fifty times, but when you take into account the fact that you have a different condom eacth time, the numbers for the failures get significantly lower
I have serious doubts that the condom companies would ever spin their statistics to make the condoms look less effective. If that is really the way condom companies are basing their statistics that they were really talking about the same condom, please provide some kind of source to support yourself.


It has nothing to do with the condom companies, It has to do with the statistic. A condom, if used right, has a 2% failure rate. That mean that there is a one in fifty chance that one condom will fail, not one in fifty that a differnet condom will fail. The statistics are for each condom, not all of them.

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Your numbers also don't take into account:
-The number of people who have STDs. You have to be with someone who's infected beofre you can even take into account the failure rate of the condom.

-The fact that you can get an STD screening. Just make sure you and your partner get one, and are clean and the chances of coming into contact with an STD are virtually, if not completely, eliminated.

Screenings aren't: walk into the clinic, get a blood test, and leave knowing you have no STDs. The results can take longer than a month for HIV alone.
Many couples who get screened before having sex don't wish to wait that long.


Wrong.
HIV facts
How long does it take to get results?

Results from the most commonly used HIV antibody screening test, the ELISA, are not available for 1-2 weeks. A "rapid test" is available for screening. It produces quick results, usually within 5 to 30 minutes.


Taken from: http://www.thebody.com/aawh/force99/questionsHIV.html

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-The fact that their are certain times when a woman can't get pregant. The average woman only ovualtes (is able to get pregnant) for two days out of her twenty eight day cycle. These two days usually fal between the 10th and 18th days of her cycle. So, if you do it on the right time, you can have sex with a girl hundreds of times and not get her pregnant.
A woman can get pregnant at any time during the month. The likelyhood of getting pregnant changes based on where she is in the cycle.


Wrong again. http://www.knowmycycle.com/phases-menstrual-cycle.aspx

Did you take a basic health course?

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-The fact that, even if the woman is ovulating, and there is no condom, there is only about a fifty percent chance she'll become pregnant.
Source please..


Yo: http://babymed.com/faq/content.aspx?581

Keep in mind, that those statistics are for women who are trying to get pregnant, I.E. no birthcontrol or contraception of any kind.

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-The fact that most condoms have spermicide, so even if some sperm gets through, it will most likely be kiiled.

The effectiveness statistics take this into account. If they did not, why would the companies ever spin their numbers to make their condoms look less effective? The male body produces many chemicals as it releases sperm to protect it, which severely dampens the effect of the spermicide.


Once again, it has nothing to do with the condom companies.

And even if the spermicide didn't work, or had a low rate of success, take a look at the statistics above.

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Take a deeper look at the problem next time, and don't just take the numbers at hand.

You seem far too confident in these "safe" sex methods.


Far to confident? I think I'm just confindent enough, considering:
a) I have done my own research and not relied on teen rumors or pro abstinance propaganda to teach me.
b) After having sex more times than I can remember, with 21 different people, I have yet to deal with catching an STD or getting a girl pregnant (which, accourding to your satistics, would have happened at least once by now). Which I attribute to the fact of not being uneducated when it comes to sex and protection.
Le Soleil Neigeux
It's the general consensus that premarital sex is a sin. However, no one has ever explained to me why... In my biblical studies, I haven't been able to find any outward mention of premarital sex and it's moral standing at all.

Just wondering about the general opinion on sex outside of marriage.

Is it wrong? Why?
What makes it ok?
Should the topic be concerned with religion at all?

If you have a viewpoint, please support it! 3nodding


Read this:

http://christiananswers.net/q-sum/sum-f001.html
Caroji
Le Soleil Neigeux
It's the general consensus that premarital sex is a sin. However, no one has ever explained to me why... In my biblical studies, I haven't been able to find any outward mention of premarital sex and it's moral standing at all.

Just wondering about the general opinion on sex outside of marriage.

Is it wrong? Why?
What makes it ok?
Should the topic be concerned with religion at all?

If you have a viewpoint, please support it! 3nodding


Read this:

http://christiananswers.net/q-sum/sum-f001.html


Proof of any of those generalizations and assumtions?
You can just don't be a slut. Sex isnt everything and your body is not just a thing for men to use for ********.
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You can just don't be a slut. Sex isnt everything and your body is not just a thing for men to use for ********]

What about men?
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You can just don't be a slut. Sex isnt everything and your body is not just a thing for men to use for ********]

What about men?


they shouldnt just ******** girls they should respect them and revere them
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You can just don't be a slut. Sex isnt everything and your body is not just a thing for men to use for ********]
What about men?

they shouldnt just ******** girls they should respect them and revere them

If men should revere women, why shouldn't women revere men? And what about people who are neither?
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Nuri
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You can just don't be a slut. Sex isnt everything and your body is not just a thing for men to use for ********]
What about men?

they shouldnt just ******** girls they should respect them and revere them

If men should revere women, why shouldn't women revere men? And what about people who are neither?


Women should respect men and revere all people but we are not meant to serve men just like men arent meant to serve women

people who are neither are the same too i guess
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You can just don't be a slut. Sex isnt everything and your body is not just a thing for men to use for ********]

What exactly defines being a slut and why should people refrain from being one?
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You can just don't be a slut. Sex isnt everything and your body is not just a thing for men to use for ********]
What about men?

they shouldnt just ******** girls they should respect them and revere them

If men should revere women, why shouldn't women revere men? And what about people who are neither?

Women should respect men and revere all people but we are not meant to serve men just like men arent meant to serve women

people who are neither are the same too i guess

What if someone wishes to serve, either a person in specific or humanity in general? After all, the reason Druids were given certain dispensations was because they served all of the tribes of the Celts.
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You can just don't be a slut. Sex isnt everything and your body is not just a thing for men to use for ********]

You do know that women aren't ALL prostitutes, and that usually if you have sex, you love the person you're having sex with, right?

Also, you have to be two to have sex. Therefore, one can't be married and the other not. The way you turned our sentence, it sounded as though you thought only girls had unmarried sex. Hence encouraging the belief of adultery.
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You can just don't be a slut. Sex isnt everything and your body is not just a thing for men to use for ********]

What exactly defines being a slut and why should people refrain from being one?


And how is having sex outside of marriage being a slut?
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You can just don't be a slut. Sex isnt everything and your body is not just a thing for men to use for ********]

You do know that women aren't ALL prostitutes, and that usually if you have sex, you love the person you're having sex with, right?

Not always, and why do you make prostitutes out to be bad, anyways?
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Also, you have to be two to have sex. Therefore, one can't be married and the other not.


Huh?

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